Week 2 - May Low Carb Bootcamp - our first official weigh-in!

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Morning all!

Here's the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness

And don't forget the the Weight Tracker (I hope that link works but apologies if it doesn't!)

So we come to our first weigh-in. I know from last week's thread that results are going to be a bit mixed - but I hope that most of you will see a good loss.

If you haven't, don't panic! Sometimes it can take a bit of time for your body to trust you, especially if you're a bit of a serial dieter.

If you think you've been doing everything according to the rules, but still haven't seen a loss, then list out for me your meals over the last 3 or 4 days and let me see if I can spot anything obvious.

But whatever the results are today, please remember it's not a competition!

We all lose weight at different rates. And someone who sees a big loss in one week isn't going to see that every week.

And remember - it's not all about what the scales tell you. You'll find that your body shape can change even if the scales remain unchanged!

Good luck to you all.

That was a cross post heman I swear!!! I was typing it in the bath and when it posted, I glanced at your post and thought, 'must tell heman that wasn't at her' then I got dried and promptly forgot!

trash. I was a bit worried for a while there.

You are a braver person than me, trash, are you not worried about whatever electronic device you are typing on getting wet in the bath?!
Mind you, DS is still at the stage where if he knows there is a bath run he will throw himself in, regardless who it is for, which doesn't help matters

I tend to gloss over the 'cheaters' stuff because I know it is not helpful for me; I have to absolutely stick to BC rules or my weight goes up. Carbs, any carbs, are NOT my friend, and posters are right when they say the WOE is unforgiving. I like the WOE because it has opened up a means for me to eat well and not balloon, but I am now absolutely open with people and say I don't eat sugar. I am allergic to wheat and related grains so that helps. This thread is really helpful to me to get advice and maintain focus and in a carby world, I need that. So yes, I am all for keeping this space carb-free.

Maybe one way of thinking about it is people used to have cigarettes in their house to offer as a social nicety, even if they didn't smoke. Sugar (cakes, biscuits) fulfil the same function today.

Tell people in advance of any hospitality that you are low carbing to avoid any issues; don't have treats in the house (your DC don't need them either, there are plenty of healthier alternatives - all things in moderation, DC are allowed treats on days out but these are low sugar etc); work out why and when you fall prey to 'treats' and put strategies in place to manage, think of healthier alternatives etc.

I still struggle with the emotional side of eating, especially if I am tired, given personal stuff in the last few years. Taking that crutch away means I need to look at where I am now, which is a bit scary, as I need to get past the draw back to the comforting and familiar but actually damaging things in my life till recently. Carbs fit in the comforting and familiar but actually damaging box.

trash, I think it was you, thanks for mentioning the caffeine thing - my caffeine intake has been creeping up as I have been waking up early to work and I need to knock that back on the head. Sorry, more poo chat - I have just realised it is probably a contributory factor to the bungs which have returned. Water, herbal tea and decaf today! I probably need to take some steps to address the disturbed sleeping.

Very well said Trashy and Ewan!

I haven't been posting my food because I've been doing BC light, not BC, and I don't think everyone needs to hear about stuff they can't eat yet. It's just not supportive to talk about your cheats in a sort of 'oh I fell into a cake, sorry about that' way. Anyway, Trashy said it much more eloquently than I can, so I'll shut up now.

morning, I have put 1.5lbs on this morning (another daily weigher) which is really disapointing. I had a major energy slump yesterday tea time and I was hungery, I mean really hungry. I had a bowl of ff greek yoghurt and a bag of pork scratching and 3 babybels as well as my lovely prawn salad that was tea. I think this is probably why.

When I first read these threads and people were saying restrict dairy I thought well what does that leave you but I have over the past 3 weeks (istatrted bootcmap a week early) reduced the amount of cheese I eat massively as it just isnt that appealing.

Most days I am eating
b ff greek yoghurt with flax seed
l prawn or chicken with leafy salad and mayo
t hot meat and spinach or other green veg.
I have found this is filling me up, I still need to break the 3pm snack cycle though.

I have a large black coffee in the morning and the rest of my drinks are water or fruit tea, is this ok, I used to drink an alarming amount of coffee so I had amazed I can manage on just the one now.

I am also running and walking lots, what sort of effect does excercise have with this woe?

I do feel like this woe is sustainable to me, dh has commented on how much happy I am and how much energy I have, however I struggle when I go out for lunch or tea and people want you to explain why you arent eating the things you normally do, then pass judgement on how bad for you low carbing is. There is also a certain amount of willpower required in these situations and I worry I wont always have access to that.

I have learnt so much from this thread and i am finding i am having to tweak the woe. At first i dont think dairy was a problem but now i think i am more sensitive to it.

Caffeine will be the next thing on my hit list - i have started drinking black coffee as i was having coffee with cream and there is a huge amount of cals in cream - i think each coffee was 200 cals - i can drink 4/5 in a day. I know we dont need to count cals on this woe but i think they have an affect on me.

Portion size is something i have to be mindful of - as SW-er i am used to huge portions in a vain attempt to fill me up but the food on this WOE is so much richer and filling i dont need man sized helpings anymore.

All the experiences of the fantastic ladies and men on here has helped me identify why i eat - not being on the insulin rollercoaster has meant that i dont comfort eat and binge anymore - this is a massive achievement for me.

I have fallen off and i have spent a couple of months messing about and gained and lost the same few pounds. This thread keeps me honest and on the straight and narrow. I have had to learn through bitter experience how unforgiving this WOE is. I have suffered the tummy/ibs style upsets as a result. I am so grateful for finding something that actually bloody works.

After my last pregnancy (GD, 3st weight gain) i was convinced i was just going to remain fat FOREVER. I had a stock of vlcd shakes and was committed to doing them ( i have since binned them).

One day on active threads i saw the bootcamp thread and it has changed my life and that of my family. Hubby has lost weight and i intend to teach my kids about the dangers of sugar so they never have to feel the self loathing that goes with being fat and not being able to fix it. Its my one regret and i am so capable in every other aspect of my life.

Thanks everyone, so glad i found you! Now if someone could send the whoosh fairy my way as i cant get below 13.8 and its driving me nuts!!!! ta

Morning.

I had noticed that without biwi's sterness that this BC has a helluva a lot more cheating than the last one. Her big stick is needed.

I didn't eat until 1pm yesterday because I had an early appointment and it just happened to be near a retail park, so shopping was a must! and then I was sat in the car fielding phone calls from sols, financial advisors and dp for nearly an hour!

It never crosses my mind to eat something, anything, if I'm hungry. If it's not low carb/allowed I just won't eat. It's not going to kill you to not eat for 24 hours, so 8 hours is nothing. If I'm out, I'll buy things like nuts (not on bc though) or a cooked chicken breast or cocktail sausages. Even corner shops sell nuts.

I appreciate that people have a messed up relationship with food though. I have my own demons but you have to give your head a wobble sometimes.

blessed you will. I hovered around 13.11 for ages. Up. Down, up down. But you will break it eventually. I'm 13.4 now.

I take it no one has any chicken liver recipes then.........?

Cheese and caffeine are on my hit list too, blessed, my weight has actually gone up 2lb this BC which I can only put down to these two things, and lack of sleep, plus the bungs - actually quite a lot of things, grr.

No sass, but as I need a cheese replacement, maybe chicken liver pate should be on my menu - def time to consider something new!

Apologies from me for posting a cheat. Will not do it again. Thanks to Trash and Ewan for pointing out how unhelpful and unsupportive it is to hear about this. Sorry again.

romey pate is one of the things I haven't got my head around yet. I am getting there though. Before Jan, I wouldn't eat olives (tasted like sea water- love love love now) chicken wings (I ate 5 yesterday) pork scratching (ewww- ate a 75g bag at 1pm yesterday) skin on meat (see chicken wing story!)

In my head I have them being overly forced fat so they get fatty livers and their legs break. Am I wrong?

sass that's foie gras - goose liver pate from birds who've been force fed. Very cruel. Not the case with normal pate though.

Hang I think if you are being surrounded by syrupy pancakes and unhelpful comments, it IS going to be harder for you; but take strength from every time you manage to assert your own needs, which is to stick to the WOE - comments here are absolutely meant to support you in that

sass, I know, I am already trying to get over the ethical issues I have with eating meat after stumbling across an unhelpful description of what it actually is, which I won't repeat. I am dealing with that by careful shopping at the moment, though I periodically think about becoming a vegetarian

sass there were a couple of recipes on the last page!

Scales today are back down to what they were on Thursday which is a relief. I'll do measurements this weekend too, because I can't actually see any difference from starting BC.

Loving everyone's helpful advice on here! Special thanks to Fatstacks, readyforno2, Lex and trashcanjunkie for keeping me on the straight and narrow yesterday during the witching hour when I nearly succumbed to the wine o'clock habit. I kept telling myself about your experiences and that there was no point in sabotaging myself so early in the game. Result: I've lost a pound this morning.
I tried decaff coffee and it did nothing for me. I have been insomniac most of my life and have never drunk coffee after midday. I am wondering if the coffee is having something to do with my tiredness, though, as I think I am presently drinking more than I used to and am permanently knackered at the moment, though I am comparatively energetic after my first coffee of the morning. Also have terrible what I think are arthritic pains. Anyhow, enough about the perils of old age. I wish I’d known about the effects of low carb when I was younger - you have reminded me, I used have such terrible period pains I would faint. My husband didn’t think I was in labour as he was used to me moaning about period pains and my contractions were at about the same level!
Romey, please let me know if going off caffeine helps you with the lack of sleep. I found the decaff made no difference to my irregular sleeping patterns.
FWIW, I don't mind the "true confessions" and the mention of non BC treats. I actually find they help me, in a way, from meeting my Nemesis.

crabby oh! That's good to know. Now to get my head around eating liver......

pat on this thread? Just had a quick scroll and didn't see anything. You don't know who posted them do you?

romey I accept the whole food chain thing now. But it has taken me near on 5 years to get to this point. I would only eat what I called pure meat for years- steak, chops etc. I couldn't eat sausages, burgers or chicken for a good few years. In fact I still only buy 90%+ sausages and I have only ever made my own burgers ( I haven't eaten a bought frozen burger since childhood)

My epitaph will be 'she gets there in the end'

Sorry pat I see them now. Doh.

Thank you Ewan and gcal

I think I will try the liver and onion one first. I think I need longer to get my head around pate.

I might try and fool myself by buying some first that I hvent prepared and then it will be easier.

Chicken livers - a friend of mine use to add them to her lasagne/ bolognese sauce. I've just realised I can now have the Italian recipe where you cook lamb in cream/ milk with fennel. Will dig out the recipe and where it calls for milk will add chicken stock to more cream.

Romey - thanks. Your post nearly made me cry. I know its pathetic but I've been feeling really shitty for being so selfish with my earlier post. I have bit of an issue with "secret binge eating" which I think I was trying to break by admitting my failure on this board. In retrospect, this was the wrong place. Everyone has their own food issues to deal with and they don't need mine on top!

I will be much more careful about what I post from now on. The last thing I want to do is make it harder for anyone else.

I may be on holiday but I've still got my big stick!

Trash is absolutely right to say that the cheating is self-sabotage. But please remember that it isn't just you that's affected if you post it here - it can be terribly triggering for others as well.

So I shall slip away and draw a very large veil over the last couple of days

sass I must say I have to be in the mood for liver, otherwise I find it a bit offputting. It goes well with crispy bacon and onions and is lovely in a ragu for bolognese or lasagne - cut up small so you don't get the texture but get the rich flavour. Delia uses them in her recipe iirc.

Hang if DP/DD made pancakes with syrup anywhere near me I would insert them up their nostrils or anally! You are a stronger woman than me to resist the smell of those.