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Low-carb bootcamp

Join discussions about low-carb bootcamp plans, meals and progress. Consider speaking to a medical professional before starting any diet.

Week 2 - Low Carb Bootcamp Jan 2014

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BIWI · 19/01/2014 21:03

Wow! So much nattering that we've filled up the thread before the end of the week!

Here's the link to the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness for tomorrow morning.

And, for the Weight Tracker I'm not quite sure what happens with this link I think that you will be asked to enter your weight for this week and then you will see your individual graph.

I hope you all had a good week last week, and very good luck for week 2.

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CalamityKate · 20/01/2014 17:55

I'm on week 3 of following some sort of LC diet....not sure it's the same as BC/BC light.

googoogoggles · 20/01/2014 17:57

thank you stuntnun - do like your explanations of what's going on.
Betty THAT FAT PIC!!!! Grotesquely fabulous.
Not very hungry today so think def in ketosis.
B Coffee with cream, left over chicken dipped in mayo plus bit of leftover Total with grind of vanilla
L Just not hungry (how unbelievable is that – and I had a coffee in Starbucks with not the slighest desire for sandwich or cake)
D Am debating steak and salad or chicken and salad
On 3rd 750ml bottle of water – need to catch up so off to glug some more

googoogoggles · 20/01/2014 18:03

Don't be disheartened Calamity! Nuts aren't the end of the world [hides from BIWI]
The first two weeks of BIWI's BC are to get us all into ketosis quickly and nuts are a problem because they are so damned MOREISH and it's easy to put away a whole lot of them and therefore eat too many carbs (not good in first two stricter weeks as the plan is to get rid of sugar/carb cravings and make sure we're all in optimum fat-burning mode)
Didn't you already lose some weight last week or week before?

CalamityKate · 20/01/2014 18:07

Yes I lost 6lb :(

Also I noticed in DrBs book he says to drink enough so that your wee is pale - which for me is achieveable but I have to admit I'm struggling to drink the amount recommended here?

Please don't think I'm trying to be critical or awkward! Just wondering at some of the discrepancies! I want to understand and hopefully get back to losing! :)

BerylStreep · 20/01/2014 18:12

Hello all.

I lost 5 lbs this week! It should have been 7 lbs, but I had a wine fuelled carb binge on Saturday night. Not good.

Anyhow, onwards and upwards!

Lighthousekeeping · 20/01/2014 18:18

I've just had a bowl of orange low cal jelly. I crave something sweet after dinner. I hope it doesn't knock me out too much.

MrsPnut · 20/01/2014 18:28

I am stuffed, and need to head out to a meeting in a minute.

B - 2 boiled eggs, slice of gouda and slice go ham
l - curried cauliflower soup, natural yoghurt
D - leftovers, roast chicken, cheesy leeks and mashed swede.

I'm off to the loo and then drink another pint of water before I go out.

hopebeyondreason · 20/01/2014 18:29

Sorry Beryl, but really a bit Envy at you losing 5lbs after a wine fuelled carb binge.

Today -

B - Coffee with cream, 2 egg omelette with bacon, mushrooms & asparagus fried in butter

L - rocket, spinach & watercress salad with chicken, feta cheese, olives, cucumber & FF mayo

D - pork belly rashers with leek, courgette & mushrooms fried in butter.

Snacks - cup of tea with milk, some brie cheese (probably too much) & a little bit of total yogurt. Might have another coffee with cream later.

FourArms · 20/01/2014 18:32

Thanks blizy. I am really pleased. I'm down from sz 18/20 to 14 as well. Just need to lose another pound and I'll have lost 20% of my starting weight! Loving LCing :)

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Nux · 20/01/2014 19:12

Feeling much better today, especially as I'm wearing some jeans that have been a little uncomfortable of late and they feel fine again :-). Woot! Well done everyone!

prettybird · 20/01/2014 19:13
ChesterDrawers · 20/01/2014 19:24

Evening all, just checking in before I settle down to watch the sugar programme on channel 4 in a bit. A good day for me, stuck to the plan and even managed minimal dairy. Going to have a decaf with cream in a bit, mind, I'm not a bloody martyr!

Just prepped all my food for work tomorrow and got my gym kit ready for my early morning spin class. Seem to have got my mojo back now my period is on its way out.

Hope everyone's doing ok.

LauraBridges · 20/01/2014 19:26

Thanks for posting this link www.foodnavigator-usa.com/Trends/Gluten-free/Dietitians-say-anti-wheat-pro-nutrition-info-sentiments-will-top-2014-trends?nocount. For a good few years I have been eatuing almost exclusive paleo/primal and no bread etc and feeling so very very good and happy on it and yet it is only in this year I have started seeing the mainstream media reporting that it might be a healthy way to eat so it's a lovely change.

I am battling on despite my gain (and I did follow this 100% for 5 days and lost nothing at all but then I don't have huge amounts to lose - at 10 stone am upper limit of healthy BMI and I gave up the wheat etc 4 or 5 years ago so it's not some massive new change for me although I had hoped dropping the cheese and the nuts and raisins last week would have led to huge early gains). Anyway I am back on it today and also need to remember that even without weight loss I virtually catch no germs on this, wake up stable and feeling happy and I just feel right so that's enough....

B bacon (2 slices) 3 eggs yolks
L chicken fried with courgettes green peppers and also spinach boiled with butter - a very green lunch
D - tuna with onion fried only is highish carb but only about 6g and I've had hardly any today

Had big urge to buy nuts and raisins when out but resisted.

HeirToTheIronThrone · 20/01/2014 19:26

Strict day today despite the presence of big meeting lunch. And, bargain alert for fish lovers - whole rainbow trout are only £3 a kilo on the fish counter at Tesco, there are two big fat ones cooking in loads of garlic butter in my oven currently which was less than £2!! To be had with asparagus and samphire and more melted butter...

LucyVFood · 20/01/2014 19:30

Well done everyone!

I'd love some ideas from you guys. I'm approaching my first 'trial': a weekend away. Staying in a hotel, so no facilities at all.

Cooked breakfasts are likely, as are fish and chips, a Chinese and possibly an Indian.

Do I just say fuck it and eat what I like, or can anyone recommend damage control?

BIWI · 20/01/2014 19:32

CalamityKate!!!!

This is Bootcamp. It isn't Dr Briffa's book or plan. If you follow the rules - which are clearly laid out in the Bootcamp area, then you will lose weight. You have already lost weight!

a) you've already lost 6lbs, which is brilliant

but

b) you're complaining that you haven't lost any more recently

and

c) you say you're confused

If you want to follow Dr Briffa, obviously that's fine, and totally up to you. But it's very different from Bootcamp. Personally I think he writes more about a sort of maintenance kind of diet - a general low carb diet. You will lose weight on it if you're overweight.

But Bootcamp is set up to be a stricter way of eating - especially the first two weeks.

If you're eating nuts and not drinking all the water, then you are likely to see a lower weight loss.

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LauraBridges · 20/01/2014 19:34

(Lucy, at hotels etc I find you can stick to this - bacon and eggs for breakfast, usually you're having lunch out or have some meat/fish with veg and dinner is easy any English food -steak or pork chop or lamb chop or fish with the veg but not the carb. No fish and chips, chinese or Indian if you can help it.

BIWI · 20/01/2014 19:36

For the benefit of everyone, here are Bootcamp rules:

Bootcamp Rules

1. Eat three, proper meals a day
You must eat breakfast. It doesn’t have to be a lot, and it doesn’t have to be absolutely first thing, but you must have something. For the rest of the day, if you’re eating enough food and you are in ketosis then you shouldn’t be hungry between meals. But if you are hungry, eat something. (Hard boiled eggs make a great snack).

After the first two weeks of Bootcamp we will relax this, but these two weeks are critical in terms of helping you switch easily to a low carb way of eating - and if you start to feel hungry, it makes things much harder! Eating this way will ensure that your blood sugar levels are kept stable, which will mean that you are much less likely to experience hunger.

A typical high carbohydrate diet can mean that snacking is a routine part of your day. Once your blood sugar levels are stable, by eating low carb, you should find that you no longer want to snack. But the rule of thumb here is ‘if you are hungry, eat!’. (Just make sure you are only choosing low carb snacks, of course!)

2. Avoid processed food
Focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals – meat/fish/eggs. Things like sausages, bacon, pre-prepared burgers, Pepperami etc should be avoided as much as possible. You can have them, but just not every day. Avoid foods marketed as low carb, e.g. Atkins Daybreak bars. These products contain all manner of artificial ingredients, and often contain sugar. You should always check the carb counts of these foods if you are including them, as some of them can be surprisingly high (e.g. Tesco Chargrilled Burgers - per burger, fried, there are 5.4g carbs)

3. Eat lots of fat
Eating fat will not make you fat. Honestly! But it will keep your appetite satisfied, and it sustains your body’s energy requirements perfectly. Fat does not provoke an insulin spike, unlike carbs which do (a lot) and protein (a little). Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though, as this is too sweet), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first).

Eat fattier cuts of meat – e.g. pork belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low fat/light foods of any kind!

4. Make sure you are eating vegetables and salads with your food

This is where your carbs should come from, and this is non-negotiable. But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list. Make sure that you focus on eating those vegetables that are 3g carb per 100g or less, and this will ensure that your carb counts are kept low. You don’t have to weigh/count carbs – this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you’re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat.

5. Be careful about dairy (apart from butter, which is unlimited)
Dairy can impede weight loss for some people. If you are still drinking tea/coffee with milk or cream, try to restrict yourself to max 2 cups per day. There are a lot of carbs in milk, so if you are having several cups of tea/coffee per day, you will quickly rack up your daily carb count (e.g. 1 medium latte contains more than 12g carbs!)

You may eat cheese but again, don't overdo it.

Full fat yoghurt is the best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs. Total Full Fat is the best

6. You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day
The more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink. This is from www.low-carbdiet.co.uk/. Water is essential to weight loss for those who eat low-carb. The minimum consumed in a day should be

Your Weight--Litres
140lbs-----2.5
160lbs-----3.0
180lbs-----3.0
200lbs-----3.5
220lbs-----3.5
240lbs-----4.0
260lbs-----4.5
280lbs-----4.5
300lbs-----5.0
320lbs-----5.5
340lbs-----5.5
360lbs-----6.0
380lbs-----6.5
400lbs-----6.5

High levels of ketones in the blood stream can lead to a reduction in ketone production, therefore being well hydrated could aid in keeping the levels low and ketone production ongoing. Consuming enough water can have many other positive side effects: aids your kidneys with the processing of protein, reduces the retention of water, helps with preventing constipation, and reduces the levels of ketones released by your breath, which in-turn will reduce breath odour.

However, drinking a lot of water can mean that you also need to keep an eye on your electrolyte balance. You need to make sure that you are consuming sufficient sodium and potassium. On a low carb diet we can eat more salt, so make sure that you are cooking with salt and adding salt to food, if you like it. Good, low carb, sources of potassium are spinach (raw), avocado, mushrooms, courgettes and asparagus, as well as salmon and yoghurt.

7. No alcohol
Alcohol is the easiest source of fuel for the body to burn, so it will always use this first before it starts to burn any fat - which is why you need to restrict it, especially in the first two weeks of Bootcamp, when we are encouraging the body to stop using carbs for its source of fuel and turn to fat-burning instead.

If you really can't do this - at least try and restrict it to the weekend. Vodka with soda is the best thing to drink. Or Champagne, red wine or dry white wine.

8. No fruit
Really. Seriously. Honestly. None at all. Zilch. Nada

After Bootcamp you will be able to introduce certain fruits, but at this stage fruit is simply too carby. We are also trying to break the addiction to sweet things, so cutting fruit out is part of this process. If you are getting all your carbs from vegetables and salad, you will be getting all the nutrients and fibre that you need.

9. No nuts/seeds
Whilst these are really good to snack on later, when we move into Bootcamp Light - it can be too easy to start snacking on these, and before you know it, all your carbs have gone on nuts. Seriously - in Bootcamp - don't do it to yourself!

10. No sugar or artificial sweeteners
Sugar is an obvious ‘no no’, but artificial sweeteners are also an issue. One of the aims of this way of eating is to eat pure and natural foods, so including sweeteners is not recommended.

Some people find that artificial sweeteners can impede their weight loss, and there is some suggestion that your body can respond to sweeteners as if they were sugar, by releasing more insulin - and therefore laying down fat. Given that the aim of Bootcamp is to help us lose our sweet tooth and addiction to sweet things, then it is a good idea to avoid sweeteners altogether in this first two weeks.

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Lovecat · 20/01/2014 19:43

Yay, so many great losses :)

Am thoroughly stuffed. Managed to avoid temptation while making a Mario cake today, usually I end up scarfing the excess buttercream and cake bits, but it all went in the bin instead (except for one small bit for DD). Today's food was:

B - leftover LC cassoulet
L - curried cauli soup with a swirl of cream
S - stick of celery with cream cheese on it
D - LC bolognese on a bed of spinach with mozzarella melted on top... mmm nomnom...

I bought a skirt in the January sales that was fairly tight on the waist, this morning it zipped up no problem and doesn't cut into me at all. Woohooo!! :o

teaandthorazine · 20/01/2014 19:48

Everyone going to watch the sugar programme at 8pm? Could be interesting.

So, today's Plates Of Loveliness:

B: protein shake with double cream
L: crayfish and avocado salad, kale chips
D: pork belly strips, roasted broccoli and peppers, buttered cabbage

May have a bit of yoghurt later but am trying to keep the dairy down a bit this week. Have drunk 2L (possibly more) water and had 1 cup of tea and 1 coffee with a splash of milk. I did absentmindedly pour the dressing over the salad before realising that it was probably quite sugary, but other than that, a pretty good day.

Really must start working with the kettlebells sometime...I have lots of motivation for changing my diet, not much for changing my (total lack of) exercise routine Hmm

LucyVFood · 20/01/2014 19:49

Thanks Laura. We're going to the coast so DH and the kids will definitely expect fish and chips. Taking them out for dinner is a must too. They love Chinese food so that's going to be a hard one to avoid. I could probably talk them out of the Indian and into a fish restaurant that we like.

I don't really want to eat separate meals from the rest of my family, or to make it all about me and what I 'need' to eat :(

I could just have the fish and not the chips I guess. Is there ever a good option in a Chinese?

whodunnit · 20/01/2014 19:53

Just marking my place ....dropped a littlt today - need to do the spreadshhet conversion from kilos.

thenightsky · 20/01/2014 19:55

Thanks for the reminder tea Smile

googoogoggles · 20/01/2014 19:58