Trans Women are Real Women and Should Have Access to Women's Spaces

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Started because a thread on Girlguiding was getting too off topic.

Nope. There are plenty of masculine cisgender women, or feminine cisgender men.

It basically means “faux” in the same way that “faux fur” isn’t made from animal skin.

So the answer to the question would be ‘no I don’t follow’ ?

But does that mean that Trans women who have undergonesurgery and no longer have a penis should be allowed in single sex spaces?

But ‘gender’ is simply regressive stereotypes - as you confirmed when going on about it ‘aligning with your sex’.

What an odd thing to say. What makes you think that things that are complicated are less likely to survive? Biological complexity is usually associated with longer survival.

It does; adding trans as an identifier does not change one's sex. Just as adding wax as an identifier would not turn a woman into a wax figure.

Dang. I have clearly been womaning all wrong.
Born a woman, am a woman. But I am not very feminine. So what does that make me?

What are the signs of having a gender that aligns with your sex? How would someone know that?

No there aren’t because cisgender is a made up term to support a certain narrative, which women aren’t obliged to acknowledge.

The funny thing is this poster is very clear that they know “trans women” are men in the Equality Act 2010, which governs access to women only spaces.

No gender is not simply regressive stereotypes

Yes, it is.

Nearly there. Transwomen are men.

That is not what the study says at all. Did you read it? You obviously didn’t understand it.
The study was on 24 transgender women and ESTIMATED the MATHEMATICAL PROBABILITY of transgender women having elements of female neuroanatomy, using a mathematical formula. So cannot be generalised from 24 people, and was an estimate of probability.
So in fact, hardly evidence at all.

Because they can't give a coherent answer to you that sees, and empathises with, the situation from your point of view AND allows their men are women if they say they are to hold up.

So instead they ignore you or they post something that deservedly gets deleted.

So stunning and brave of them 🙄

They're saying TWAW and whinging about semantics 🫠

Sticking my head above the parapet to suggest ‘tomboy’ !! I’ll get my coat !!

So, trans women are NOT real women (because they’re male) and they should NOT have access to women’s spaces (because they’re male).

lets stick with 'easy to determine' then.

Aaaaand... the ones whose gender doesn't align with their sex registered at birth are trans? So women who identify as men are trans women?

Will you be telling us what it is. So we can all check whether ours align?

Point made well. But I don't mind calling transwomen transwomen. I will never call them women because they are not.

It is. That is all it is. It’s a social construct based on sex.

Typically yes, but not always. Rarely there are exceptions, as with almost all things. This is not unusual and should not be such a controversial idea.