Trans Women are Real Women and Should Have Access to Women's Spaces

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Started because a thread on Girlguiding was getting too off topic.

No

No - if they were they’d be called women. There’d be no need for the trans.

My pronouns are she/they, but I won't because I now realise how stupid that would be

I should have read the whole thread. It would have saved me typing exactly the same thing 🙃

They are called women, much like women who were assigned female at birth are cisgender women. Trans is just an adjective

Your pronouns are I and me. That's how you refer to yourself.

How other people refer to you is up to them.

You have “evidence” that men are women, do you?

in short, no you don’t. Women are adult human female. No men are women, whatever their subjective, changeable and unverifiable feelings about their “identity”.

go back to Reddit

Good. A transman is a woman and obviously welcome to use women’s single sex spaces the same as all the other women, regardless of presentation.

Honestly mate, you're coming across as a real weirdo on a predominantly female forum. So...creepy...do you not see that? Desperately wanting men in female spaces...

Nonsense.

I remember the transes backing away from the brain scan evidence theory because they were worried about the brain scan evidence.

That was bloody years ago.

My pronouns are she/they first of all. I also now realise how stupid that is, and I won't try and get people to email me. This is what this thread is for.

Trans woman is a compound noun not an adjective. It’s like sea horse - it’s not a horse.

even if we called this subset of men “women” it’s a lie and doesn’t change the fact they are men.

Nope 👎

They should not have access.

They can wear what they want. Use whatever names and pronouns they want. But they are biological males and should not have access to female changing rooms.

Genuine question - why not she/her? Why go to the plural after using the singular first - this makes no sense.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8955456/

No. They are not women in any way. They dont have any right to womens spaces or groups

Odd, having read it I think this thread seems to be for people to tell you that you are wrong.

I appreciate the question. I am a trans-fem non-binary person. This means, while I was AMAB, I mostly see myself aligned with femininity. However, I do not see myself within the binary of gender, so that's why I use those pronouns

He must have a humiliation kink

If TW were women they would understand how their bullying behaviour was inappropriate in womens spaces and not enter them.

I have bulging biceps. 💪🏻 does that make me less of a woman?

Trans is an adjective and the meaning of the adjective is “opposite of” so Trans Woman is “opposite of woman”. I see this catchphrase being used frequently ‘short woman, black woman, trans woman. All just types of woman’ but the people using it are failing to understand that:

• Short woman = smaller that average woman
• Black woman = woman with a skin colour that indicates higher melatonin levels
• trans woman = opposite of a woman

No and no.