IVF cycle buddies June/July

[Hobbes39]

Hi! I'm hoping that this is 3rd time lucky for us... due to start process for my first Frozen transfer in June, with the actual transfer being in July... anyone want to join me on the journey? We have 2 unsuccessful fresh cycles behind us, and I have this one single little embryo from the last cycle sitting in the freezer waiting for me. It's a 3BB and all my hopes are pinned on it being the one!
We have unexplained secondary infertility, have a DS who will be 4 in August, and I've just turned 40, so time isn't on our side... so I'm now waiting for my period to start (due in about 10-14 days, although my cycles are mucked up since our ivf failed in April)... but once it comes i will be down regged to them do transfer early July I think! Fingers crossed we get lucky this time...!

[Hopes2bmom]

Hi goodluck, sorry to hear this but is there any reason that you don't want icsi, if you don't mind sharing ?

[Hobbes39]

Hi GoodLuck - that's a great number of follicles - I'm sorry to hear you've had disappointing news - I don't know what the enterococcus thing is, so don't fully understand? I realise it's personal choice but curious as to why you'd be happy to do ivf but not icsi? If you are adamant though, could you maybe freeze what eggs you get for now, so not to waste them? X

[Pyjamas81]

How is everyone getting on?

Am 4dp5dt and have been totally symptomless other than cramping and feeling that AF is coming dragging feeling at 2dp5dt - which I definitely did NOT read into. Not even any real symptoms from the cyclogest and my mood is just fine - the total opposite to what I was expecting.

I'm generally trying to feel positive about the whole thing - I figured I'll be devastated if it's negative regardless of how much I try to build a wall around my feelings, so I may as well just be positive and enjoy being PUPO while it lasts. Foolish maybe, but it's keeping me going for now.

I really recommend the Zita West positive visualisation for IVF album on iTunes - currently doing the TWW track and it's really helping 👍🏼

[Nigeltufnellover]

Hi pyjamas!
I'll have a listen to those zita west positive visualisation. I currently veer between trying to think positively and worrying I'm gonna get my hopes up too much. But you are right, PMA or not it's going to be devastating.

We had our blast transferred yesterday. They said it was the real front runner, and that it looked 'beautiful'. Which made me smile, the embryologist was really enthusiastic and clearly loved her work.
Most of the embryos made it to blastocyst stage, but just had the call this morning that they wouldn't advise freezing any of them as none of the others are great quality, and might not make it through thawing, which would waste one of our funded cycles.

A bit disappointed. Which I know probably sounds silly as many people don't get to this stage, but I just feel like if this one doesn't make it, the thought of having some frozen ones ready to go would be comforting. Rather than start from the beginning again. Ah well. I should probably stop moping.
My official test date is 20/7- no way I'm gonna hold out that long. I'm already reading into cramps and twinges.
Wish there was a drug you could take that made you sleep for the next 12 days!

[Pyjamas81]

That all sounds great Nigel! Congrats on being PUPO with your beautiful blast 😁 I know what you mean about the disappointment about not being able to rely on any frozen ones - I felt the same. If it makes you feel any better our embryologist said that only 5-10% are left with any to freeze which a lot lower than I thought! It weirdly made me feel better, like less of a failure, it that we're ever failures, but hopefully you know what I mean.

Did you have your transfer in the morning or afternoon? I ask because I had mine in the morning and mine was still at early blast stage, which Consultant said was normal, but I'm just interested!

[Nigeltufnellover]

It was in the morning. She said it was a 4AB I think and expanding, but that all the others were either poor quality or very early blastocyst. So we gave it until today to see if the early ones improved, but they didn't.

It's so hard not to read so much into everything isn't it? Xx

[Pyjamas81]

Ah ok - I mustn't read into it! Consultant said it was normal and they had good success with early blasts, so I should just trust her. I'm my own worst enemy sometimes!

[Nigeltufnellover]

i got the impression they didn't freeze mine because the quality wasn't great, not because they were early and didn't develop beyond that.
We should both be chuffed our little guys made it to blast stage, really. But easier said than done!

[Pyjamas81]

Exactly - that's what I'm focusing on - we're lucky to have got to that stage!

[GirlcalledJames]

BFN today, both at home and later on bloodwork.
So I get a month off and then start again.
It is crazy how strong the side effects of the progesterone can be, I had such strong pregnancy symptoms (still have them) so it does mess with your head; I'll be better prepared next time.

[LoPl]

I'm so sorry GirlcalledJames - it is a headf*ck indeed. Rest up, and give yourself some time off. I think this part can be v. emotional draining, so lots of tlc. Hugs x

[Hobbes39]

GirlcalledJames - so sorry to read your news, thinking of you.... x
Nigel & pyjamas - hope you are both doing ok and enjoying as much as you can being PUPO
How's everyone else?
This round feels v strange for me, doing a FET - I'm so much more detached as there's so much already done, it's just all about my lining...
so had scan this morning and lining is 8.3mm so we are good to - transfer will be next week! Feels so unreal at the moment, but I did have a wobble this morning as am panicked that we just have this one embryo and I will be devastated if it doesn't survive the thaw... fingers crossed! X

[Pyjamas81]

So sorry James - this really is a total head fuck. Make sure you take care of yourself today lovely 💐

6dp5dt over here and I don't feel a damn thing. Absolutely nothing. Positivity is waning 😢

[Pyjamas81]

And fingers crossed for you Hobbes! Great to hear your lining is playing ball 😊

[GirlcalledJames]

Thanks, all! I''m quite optimistic and hoping that this cycle will at least give some information for planning the next.
Good luck Hobbes!
Pyjamas, there's still hope, fingers crossed.

[geeup]

Sorry james but great to hear you're really positive about next steps.
Got everything crossed for you hobbes - do you know what day you'll get the transfer?
Pyjamas - don't worry if you have no symptoms. Loads of people have none and get a BFP or have loads and get a BFN. There only way you'll know is when you test. Are you holding out for OTD?

[Pyjamas81]

Thanks for the reassurance guys - I guess it's because I feel zero difference between how I feel now and every other cycle which has been a BFN. But you're right impossible to know until I test. No way am I going to test before OTD gee - not because of willpower, I'm genuinely too scared to! How are you getting on?

[Goodluckjonathan76]

Sorry to hear that James. Good luck Hobbes and Pyjamas!

We cancelled my cycle on CD7 after 4 days of medication. Does anyone know if I get go straight into a new cycle next month (short protocol so no preparation month) or if we would have to wait? Assuming of course that DH's infection has cleared up which is still a big IF.

[Hobbes39]

Hi Geeup - just confirmed - Monday is transfer day, start progesterone pessaries tomorrow... having been so long feeling like nothing much is going on for me, it's about to get real!
How are you getting on?
Pyjamas - no signs could be good - as could mean period is staying away! Good luck!
GoodLuck sorry I can't help you - I've never cancelled a cycle or done the short protocol... can you call your clinic to find out? Hope you are ok? X

[Pyjamas81]

Ha ha I would think that Hobbes, but other than a slight heavy/dragging feeling the day before (which I haven't felt since 2dp5dt and putting it down to drugs), I never get symptoms telling me AF is coming!

It's fine though - trying to tell myself to think the same way about womb as I do about heart - just because I don't feel it, it doesn't mean nothing is happening.

[Pyjamas81]

And exciting about Monday Hobbes!

[Glamm]

Hi ladies, can I please join in with u all? I am 32 and was trying to conceive for 2years until I finally fell pregnant beginning of last year, resulting in an EP and losing my left tube, followed by another EP and losing my right tube 2months later. Thankfully, I am now going through my IVF journey with NHS and my nerves are all over the place. I have been injecting Gonal f and Cetrotide for 11days now and just been given Merional injections since my follicles on one side are not big enough for a planned egg collection this week. My scans this week have left me all anxious and disappointed as the doc suspects they will have to go with a frozen embryo transfer due to high AMG levels, fearing that going ahead with FET might cause me to end up in ICU. I am so confused now. I know the size of follicles isnt anything I can control but how effective is the frozen transfer compared to FET.. these injections are making me feel so bloated and irritable ... and the thought of having to wait another 2-3 periods before the transfer is making me go nuts.. any advise from you lovely ladies to put my mind at ease will help a great deal...

[geeup]

Welcome glam. All I can say is try not to worry as all I've learnt so far is what will be will be and you just have to put your life in the doctors hands and hope they know best!
AFM one embie on board and a couple for the freezer which we're really happy about. Had acupuncture before and after and now spending the rest of the day watching the tennis! Wish me luck. God I want this to work so much.

[Pyjamas81]

Welcome glam - I second what gee says, we really are in their hands!

Glad your transfer went well gee - and amazing you got some to freeze! Hope the wait is kind to you.

AFM - after I'd been so proud of myself for handling it all so well - I had a complete fucking meltdown at work today and am now at home feeling dazed and exhausted. All triggered by the fact that I saw a tiny amount of spotting on the loo paper (haven't seen any since), uncontrollably cried in loos (thank goodness I was alone), then had a meeting with my boss and cried at him and told him why. Now feel a bit like an idiot.

Just seeing the spotting triggered the failure I feel every damn month, especially as the timing is right - I'm 7dp5dt which would put me at 12dpo in natural ttc terms, which makes it right on schedule 😢

[geeup]

Pyjamas I know it's terrifying but hopefully worth me saying, literally the last thing the nurse said when I left the clinic was spotting can occur at any time in the 2ww for many reasons (result of the procedure, irritated cervix, implantation, embryo getting comfy etc etc) so if it happens to try not to worry. I know that's hard but if you've only seen a spot and it's gone, you're still in the game!! Hold tight.