Anyone else having IVF for second child after IVF for first?!?

[Bunnygirlie]

Hello!

We had IVF ICSI in January 2014 which resulted in our little boy born in October 2014. We started trying again when he's was 9 months hoping that nature would be on our side this time but after 3 months we decided to speak to the FC again to see if it was even worth bothering to try naturally. It wasn't and so we are to start IVF again very soon.

Looking for others going through the same thing if possible to be my buddy's

Welcome glummy, I think you can be just as lucky second time round... Will be keeping fingers crossed for you.

Aww Bunny, it sucks doesn't it?! Completely understand your pain....two nct announcements within a few days of each other was a killer for me the week I found out treatment hadn't been a success. I'm trying to distract myself with dieting and work at the mo but easier said than done. I just tell myself that actually it not working this time round might be a good thing as will mean my DD will be little bit older when it finally (touch wood) does. Have you got anything you can do to distract you? Altho maybe a toddler alone is enough! How old is your LO again?

West - did you have a natural or medicated FET?

Good luck with your tww glummy.

I rang my clinic today. They said to ring when "we're ready" and I think they said to ring on day 1 of my cycle. I'm midway through my cycle and planning to do it next cycle (which will be early April) and I wanted to check whether I needed any medication/scans etc. I could see myself ringing in day 1 and them saying that I needed a blood test or scan or something and so delaying the process. But no - because I'm doing a natural FET they said that I literally ring the clinic on day 1 and then they instruct me on using OPKs and then I come in for the ET. I'm amazed that they leave it to that (sometimes unreliable) technology. I'm also amazed they don't want to do any preliminary checks on me - bloods etc. I think I'm going to ask my GP to do a blood test on me to check my thyroid because if that's squiwiff then there's no point in doing an ET as I've read somewhere it cause hinder implantation. My thyroid was fine before but I've also heard that people's hormone balances can change after pregnancy (plus my mum's thyroid is dodgy). I'm exhausted at the moment without any real reason to be so I do wonder if I'm all "balanced".
Sorry for the ramble. I think I'm obsessed with thinking about conceiving another baby

Just found out that a close "mummy friend" is expecting number 2 - the first of our group. It's knocked the wind out of me even though it shouldn't of as she said she wanted a close age gap between kids. I guess she has no issues conceiving unlike me . Boo hoo...

Sunshine - yep it really sucks! Everytime I start to feel ok again I get another kick in the heart - tonight another NCT announcement! My son is 17m and yes he is a distraction but not enough of one. I think I need a hobby!

Fisher - that's interesting about natural FET, I assumed there would be scans to check things but I guess there's nothing to check?!? It's all consuming isn't it.
Sympathies on the announcement, I know how you feel x

Thanks - just had a cry - sad or what? My poor dad just got the brunt of my tears as I was phoning him about my tax return - I think he thought he'd upset me!!
I'm a SAHM (not quite out of choice) with my DD so she keeps me busy but I also don't have much else to distract me from babies/children/family life/thinking about the future, particularly once she's in bed. It's so hard but equally I really shouldn't be ungrateful as DD is wonderful

Fisher - it's not sad, or if it is then I'm sad too!
We are blessed to have our first borns but it doesn't make the 'need' to have another any less. I think I want it even more now as I know what I'm missing and I want him to have a little playmate so much

Sorry I've not been on for a bit - been feeling a bit crap with thrush and those f*ing pessaries. Also, I've not known what to say to Bunny and sunshine that won't sound crass and insensitive. Talking about my appts seems insensitive but equally buggering off this thread seems just as bad. Anyway, must stop over thinking things as I want to be here when you get your BFPs

Fisher - in answer to your question, mine was a fresh ET. I've not had any frosties from either ICSI round.

West you certainly shouldn't bugger off this thread!!! Please stay here all keep us in the loop with how things are going. Don't feel bad about not knowing what to say....I would never take anything you say as anything other than genuine help and concern . And this is me saying this as I go through my first proper period since my failed IVF last month. Hope you're feeling better and are over your thrush....and those pessaries..... Hopefully for not much longer! How many weeks are you now? Has IVF clinic discharged you yet?

fisher hope you're doing OK after your mummy friend's announcement. You're not long starting your FET.... So just hang on in there. How are you feeling about the whole process?

bunny how are you doing my lovely? Sorry to hear you've had announcements to deal with too.

Hello to everyone else.

I'm currently counting down how many more periods until we can do our FET at the end of June. Two more full ones....which in the days running up to them I will tell myself that a miracle has happened and we have somehow managed to conceive naturally....despite 3 years of no pregnancies before my DD was conceived and the fact that we needed ICSI this time round due to poor fertilisation last time

Hi ladies! Happy Easter!

Yes West don't worry about us, we'll be fine and want to support you too.

Hey Sunshine, how you doing?

I'm finally feeling a bit better, had my month of woe and now need to 'woman up' and just get on with things. Had follow up appt last week and consultant felt the cycle went well (apart from implantation) and said we can go ahead with with a natural FET when we want. She recommended some supplements so I'm going to take a month to eat better etc and then we'll give our one frostie a go. AF arrived today so only 28-35 days to go!

Ah wow bunny not long and you can do an FET. Fantastic! So you're doing all natural? So is it just poas and no scans or a bit of both?

Yep I ring on day 1 and they book me in for scan around day 10 to check lining, then I have to do opks to check for surge and then pray the one frostie we have defrosts and they chuck it back in.

Aww bunny I will have everything crossed for you. Please keep us updated if you don't mind sharing. Xxxx

It's good to have a timetable, isn't it? The times I've felt worst on this journey have been when I've no idea when things would be happening. Hope it all goes smoothly, Bunny.

My scan today showed 1 sac and 1 heartbeat. I think I'd been subconsciously preparing for twins so I was a bit disappointed which is ridiculous. And I don't yet feel I can relax and assume I'll have a baby at the end of it. They said EDD is 18 Nov but it didn't feel like information that actually affects me. I know it's still early days. And even though I know the other embryo wasn't viable and that's why it didn't stick I still feel like I've lost something .

Aww West I think that's a completely normal reaction. We had 2 embryos the first time round, one went back and the other wasn't good enough to freeze. When we went back to FC to discuss baby no 2 the Dr told me the second would have been good enough to go back, it just didn't meet the strict standards for freezing....I was really sad by this. Although DH didn't really understand in the same way. When it's an embryo there's a chance it could become a little life and when it doesn't it is sad and disappointing. For a time there was two inside you and now there isn't so you're reaction of sadness is totally normal. Fantastic news that the other little Embo is doing well. We know all too well that it's hard at this stage to get excited and start planning for the future... But a day at a time you'll get there. I remember first time round it was scan by scan and finally you start believing it.....by about 32 weeks I think! Have clinic discharged you now then?

How are you all.doing ladies?

fisher have you started preparation for your FET yet?

bunny you counting down the days until AF due?

west how are you feeling?

AFM I'm just plodding along. AF due in about ten days....couldn't even be arsed to DTD this month "just in case"! Time seems to be going by far too slowly for my liking.... Nothing planned for me until mid to end of June.

Hiya - no news here. I was really ill (flu) in the run up to AF (which was the time I was to call the clinic) so I didn't phone them this month as I thought there would be no point in wasting an embryo if I wasn't fully fit and my body was battling illness. So going to do it next month instead...hopefully. DH had another wobble about whether we should do it and whether he can "go through it all again" (pregnancy and newborn). We had a real row as I thought he was on board. I was mega upset but he's come round again. I just feel that we don't have time to think for ages about the pros and cons of doing treatment as age is not on my side and I don't want to wake up in 5 years (or him wake up in 5 years) and say "wouldn't it be nice to have another" - we've got to get moving now as we don't know how long it'll take!! Grrr! The unfair frustrations of infertility

Fisher sorry to hear you've not been well. Agree it was probably best decision to wait. You want to give it your best shot. Glad to hear your DH has come round after his wobble. It is hard to think of going through the newborn stage again but the way I look at it, this time we will be armed with the valuable knowledge that we know the difficult early weeks do not last forever. I remember being in the early weeks and months and wondering how long it was all going to last. I'd put my DD to bed and almost be holding my breath wondering if she would sleep the night. Now at 19mo she sleeps 99.99% of nights with only an odd early morning rise now and again. So now it feels like we have come out the other side and a second child would be Ok!

Any news from anyone? I'm just counting down one AF after another.....step by step closer to FET in June.

Hello!

Fisher - sorry to hear you were ill and had to postpone your FET, probably for the best though. I think that's why my fresh cycle in Feb failed as I developed a nasty sore throat during jab time and reckon my body couldn't do both things of looking after me and an embryo! You going to try in may then?
Glad to hear your DH has come round again and you're on the same page.

Sunshine - horrid being in limbo isn't it, we're planned on a May transfer but it's taking forever to get here. In a way I don't want it to get here if that makes any sense, the waiting and wondering and then possible disappointment scares me but I must be positive and will that little bugger to defrost and stick!!!

AF due around the end of the month so I guess it's not far away now, I'm trying to eat better with lots of water and fruit and veg and also trying acupuncture, I'll try anything at this stage! You know what it's like girls.

Bunny its the unknown that's so hard isn't it. If only someone could say "yes it will definitely work this time" and then you can literally just go through the process. But the uncertainty and the hoped pinned on it all is just so cruel.....and the money....makes me angry that if this works next time we will have spent > £12k on making a family (which I know is small compared to some people) whereas other people don't spend a penny....but then I remind myself that it's worth it all .....every single last penny! And one day I'll tell the children there is no inheritance as I spent their entire life paying off the debt I had from creating them ha ha ha!

Once AF arrives you will be in the swing of things and transfer once seem far off. You're doing a non medicated FET aren't you?

Sounds good on the diet and acupuncture front. I feel like I need to get back on it. Was on strict diet regime before Easter in a rub up to my hols next month but I've fallen off the wagob. Weighing Saturday then I'll be back on it and focused more. Tried acupuncture first time round while normal TTC.... Is it worth it for IVF TTC also? Tbh I tried two different ladies and neither fully relaxed me so was more of a thing I was doing rather than me feel any improvement from it.

Sorry for the spelling mistakes....far too late!

Hope not hoped
Transfer won't not transfer once
Run up not rub up
Wagon not wagob

I really should use the preview button before the post one!

Yikes drugs for FET have arrived.... Starting approx 28th May....anyone else going to be approx same time lines?!

Oooh sunshine exciting times ahead for us all. How does a drug controlled transfer work?
I'm just waiting for AF which should be in the next few days

Hey Bunny, I'm going to take Norethisterone from day 21 to keep AF away while we are on holiday. Then 2 days before we return I'll stop it and AF should arrive a couple of days later. Then I ring the clinic on day 1 to book scan for day 2. Then all being well I start taking the meds (orally, no injections). Not sure how long after that and at what intervals, but they'll scan me to determine when best to do the transfer. Then it's progesterone pessaries like in a fresh cycle. Is that similar to a non medicated? Will you do progesterone pessaries or nothing at all?

Not sure, all I can remember from meeting is ring FC on day 1 and then I'll be booked in for scan on day 10 I think.

I'm doing non-medicated, so have no drugs (yet). I've got to ring on day 1 (which is looking like it'll be next weekend, bank holiday - do I still ring the clinic if it's a Sunday?!). I have no idea what will happen after that initial phone call. I'm feeling quite anxious that it'll not be monitored as closely as IVF proper but we'll see. Of course a miracle could happen and my period won't appear next weekend! (And pigs might fly!)