Terrible Scenes At Heaton Park Synagogue

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Absolutely shocking attack at the Heaton Park Synagogue in Crumpsall North Manchester. My heart goes out to all those hurt and affected by this terrible atrocity.

@nomasIt’s more than an assumption. It’s a simple inference anyone would make from the picture of the suspect, the MO (bombs, car ramming) the likelihood of who would do this combined with the reporting use of the word terrorism and the ethnicity/religion of the victims.

Wait for confirmation by all means, but don’t use your pedantry to derail from the conversation on the very real problem of Islamist terrorism.

I did earlier, too. And I've just made my donation to CST: https://cst.org.uk

I hope that everyone gets behind the Jewish communities because they will be terrified today. They need our assurances that they will be protected

Very much with you on the sentiment, @Livelovebehappy, but it seems a bit cruel to offer assurances in the full knowledge that the words are empty

Were it otherwise the various marches - today of all days - would never have been allowed to go ahead

I have a Jewish friend who can trace her family's history in what is now Germany, back to the 1500s.
Needless to say, that came to an end in the 1930s.

I am just incredulous. Sometimes, with misplaced optimism, I look for placards calling for the release of the hostages, or some such peaceful statement. I look in vain.

Thank you, that's a great idea. I feel the need to do something, but didn't know how I could help. I'll send a donation.

Yes I think people are extraordinarily naive if they don’t realise that these marches have not been organised with the purpose of saving children but they’ve been organised by people who think dead children are acceptable collateral damage to stir up enough hatred of Jews and Israel to make them fearful. The marches are orchestrated to intimidate Jews and stir up anti semitism.

So much history lost to hatred and death cultists - and it was just one family. What happened to them was repeated all over Germany, Poland and elsewhere in Europe. 💔

There’s a good bit in the donation page which asks why you are donating make sure you click recent news events so it’s clear they have our support after today.

This is pretty much my family history too, well on my father's side. It seems to be coded into DNA to be watchful.

Yes dear jews, please cry neatly and shove off after your allocated two minutes. You cannot discuss politics here.

I don’t think this is the thread to discuss the Israel / Palestine situation.

But it also doesn’t mean people should be silenced with only one view allowed on the subject.

You’ve done what people have always said not to do, which is conflating Israel with all Jews.

I don’t care about your opinion thanks. I know your intention and it certainly isn’t compassion and solidarity for the Jews.

Absolutely

@nomas WE ALL KNOW WHOS BEHIND THIS. WE KNOW!

Sometimes, with misplaced optimism, I look for placards calling for the release of the hostages, or some such peaceful statement. I look in vain

I gave up hoping for that kind of thing long ago, @MrsEmmelineLucas

As mentioned upthread I completely accept that some attend these things out of honest and decent principle, either unable or unwilling to understand they're being used as useful idiots for a malign cause, but I did have a brief hope that they'd be prevented today of all days

Of course I have sympathy and compassion for what happened today.

I’m not the one who made this about Israel, that was you.

Oh come on nomas, just give it a rest for a few hours.

This is not the time for this.

@nomas do you feel better now? Honestly why even come on this thread, what is your motivation?

Talk as you wish, we are listening

The british people are not stupid and will draw their own conclusions from what they see on the streets.

Thanks. I will.

That’s disgusting. I despair 🤦‍♀️

What are you replying to the right one.

I ignored one poster until they tagged me 3 times due to no response from me.

I think you should tell everyone to give it a rest and not derail.

Anyway, another depressing day in the UK. I hope there are no more days like this.