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Civil unrest, what's really going on?

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Sadworld23 · 03/08/2025 17:02

My DH keeps chirping up with, there's riots here, protests there, immigrants have done assaults in xxx etc. He sees me as a bit of a do-gooder..

All UK places, but when I look at my regular news, there's very little reporting of it.

My DH has some MH issues currently and to confront him with 'what the heck are you reading?' isn't worth it right now.
I make comments such as, ooh that sounds grim and doesn't sound good, and that's very worrying, but I'd really like to know if it's really happening and where he's getting this info.

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SadSadTimes · 04/08/2025 00:32

The words we can not speak should concern us.

Yes, this.

whatacroc · 04/08/2025 00:32

Ohforpetersake · 03/08/2025 22:51

X is a sewer that explicitly, intentionally promotes far right twaddle and that's owned by a man who wants civil war in the UK.

Immigrants are less, not more likely to commit crimes.

It's funny how the male prisons are full of people of non british heritage here in the UK then isn't it.

Abasin · 04/08/2025 00:32

How do you explain this then?

Because it happens with white men too. Because it happens so much with white men that it isn't even news, and there will never be an enquiry about it, but if we stop and think about it for even five minutes we all know it.

Abasin · 04/08/2025 00:33

SadSadTimes · 04/08/2025 00:32

The words we can not speak should concern us.

Yes, this.

What words are those then?

MaidOfSteel · 04/08/2025 00:34

After the recent lifting of the government super-injunction, I absolutely believe the government is strongly pressuring the media to not report incidents involving migrants, or leaving out ‘sensitive’ details at the very least. I believe the civil service even told off Robert Jenrick for talking about it.
Some of our politicians, the media, us - we’re all being lied to and silenced. This isn’t democracy any more. Tensions are very much on the rise.

Fetaface · 04/08/2025 00:34

Agapornis · 04/08/2025 00:30

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/England_riots
The last riots across England that weren't between late April and early September started in January 1919 (and continued into the summer). 106 years ago, i.e. before T. Swift.

(I can't find an equivalent list for the whole of the UK.)

And at home getting abused more frequently.

NidaNearby · 04/08/2025 00:35

travellinglighter · 04/08/2025 00:17

You can provide links to that?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cg5vlj36296o

Rhiannon Whyte, a cleaner at an asylum hotel in Wolverhampton, was attacked with a screwdriver by asylum seeker Deng Chol Majek and died 3 days later in hospital.

Rhiannon with ginger hair in a plait smiling at the camera

Trial date set after asylum hotel worker Rhiannon Skye White died

Deng Chol Majek, 19, is accused of using a screwdriver to attack Rhiannon Skye White in October.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cg5vlj36296o

Fetaface · 04/08/2025 00:36

CareerChange24 · 04/08/2025 00:28

Wow I had no idea this had happened. Could you link to a news story. Is this from a credible source or hearsay? If not. People need to wake up!

Wake up to what? That we have a violent male issue. We always have. Women have been shouting it for centuries.

JamesMacGill · 04/08/2025 00:36

Abasin · 04/08/2025 00:32

How do you explain this then?

Because it happens with white men too. Because it happens so much with white men that it isn't even news, and there will never be an enquiry about it, but if we stop and think about it for even five minutes we all know it.

Can we deport white British men? Did the government actively decide to let them into the country despite not having the foggiest as to their identity or criminal history, having come from a highly misogynistic country where women are treated as cattle?

It’s the same as the uproar when an early release offender offends again. It’s not because the impact on the victim is any different, but because decisions were actively taken by the government which allowed them to offend when they could’ve decided not to.

Fetaface · 04/08/2025 00:38

JamesMacGill · 04/08/2025 00:36

Can we deport white British men? Did the government actively decide to let them into the country despite not having the foggiest as to their identity or criminal history, having come from a highly misogynistic country where women are treated as cattle?

It’s the same as the uproar when an early release offender offends again. It’s not because the impact on the victim is any different, but because decisions were actively taken by the government which allowed them to offend when they could’ve decided not to.

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We won't even put them in prison because of the quota used to let rapists walk free plus we have a society that believes rapists over victims.

The government have acted to ensure that white men are not held to account and can continue to abuse and rape without any consequences. Yes white men are from a highly misogynistic country where women are treated as cattle.

MsAmerica · 04/08/2025 00:38

Sadworld23 · 03/08/2025 17:02

My DH keeps chirping up with, there's riots here, protests there, immigrants have done assaults in xxx etc. He sees me as a bit of a do-gooder..

All UK places, but when I look at my regular news, there's very little reporting of it.

My DH has some MH issues currently and to confront him with 'what the heck are you reading?' isn't worth it right now.
I make comments such as, ooh that sounds grim and doesn't sound good, and that's very worrying, but I'd really like to know if it's really happening and where he's getting this info.

Maybe I'm missing something, and I admit I don't know what MH is, but the obvious question is, why don't you ask where he heard something, saying you'd be interested, too.
If you want better news, try print. Television tends toward sensationalism, as do many internet sites. It's true that there's a lot of turmoil around the world, but it's a good idea to separate what's important from what is just click-bait.

Midnightlove · 04/08/2025 00:39

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/03/10/foreigners-commit-up-to-quarter-of-sex-crimes/

Two nationalities – Afghans and Eritreans – were more than 20 times more likely to account for sexual offence convictions than British citizens, according to the data. Overall, foreign nationals were 71 per cent more likely than Britons to be responsible for sex crime convictions.

Data from the ministry of justice

NidaNearby · 04/08/2025 00:39

Abasin · 04/08/2025 00:32

How do you explain this then?

Because it happens with white men too. Because it happens so much with white men that it isn't even news, and there will never be an enquiry about it, but if we stop and think about it for even five minutes we all know it.

This simply isn’t true. Of course men of all races and ethnic groups commit rape, but you are either ignorant or lying if you pretend that all ethnic groups do so at the same rate.

Non-UK citizens are 71% more likely to be have been convicted of a sexual offence than UK citizens. That’s not a statistic you can explain away with wishy washy claims of underreporting.

Fetaface · 04/08/2025 00:40

NidaNearby · 04/08/2025 00:39

This simply isn’t true. Of course men of all races and ethnic groups commit rape, but you are either ignorant or lying if you pretend that all ethnic groups do so at the same rate.

Non-UK citizens are 71% more likely to be have been convicted of a sexual offence than UK citizens. That’s not a statistic you can explain away with wishy washy claims of underreporting.

The quota is part of that problem. Women report but are ignored because of the quota.

Also the main perpetrators of sexual assaults on children are not white men or immigrants.

AInightingale · 04/08/2025 00:41

'Can we deport white British men? Did the government actively decide to let them into the country despite not having the foggiest as to their identity or criminal history, having come from a highly misogynistic country where women are treated as cattle?'

Unfortunately we seem to be ruled by people without an understanding of basic physics that a child could grasp. The sort of people who, if the bath was overflowing, would grab a powerhose and start directing it in as well.

NidaNearby · 04/08/2025 00:41

Fetaface · 04/08/2025 00:38

We won't even put them in prison because of the quota used to let rapists walk free plus we have a society that believes rapists over victims.

The government have acted to ensure that white men are not held to account and can continue to abuse and rape without any consequences. Yes white men are from a highly misogynistic country where women are treated as cattle.

What quota? Do you have any evidence for the outrageous claims you’ve made there?

Of course not, and in fact, the opposite is true. Foreign rapists are actually more likely to be released early - allegedly so they can be deported, but as we deport basically no one, in reality they just get sent to immigration detention for a few months and then bailed.

1diamondearing · 04/08/2025 00:41

TheWalkingDead81 · 04/08/2025 00:03

All these crimes which are going unreported, how are you finding out about them?

crimes are listed by area in police records, available online, however very few crimes are reported at the actual time, even rapes and murders are rarely reported. The media has always been selective, reporting on a range of stories, not on repetitive ones. That is just not how it works. There are 500 murders and more than half a million rapes in the UK every year, just being a murder or rape is not newsworthy. I don't think there is any great conspiracy to hide crimes, it is just normal not to report most of them

JamesMacGill · 04/08/2025 00:41

Fetaface · 04/08/2025 00:38

We won't even put them in prison because of the quota used to let rapists walk free plus we have a society that believes rapists over victims.

The government have acted to ensure that white men are not held to account and can continue to abuse and rape without any consequences. Yes white men are from a highly misogynistic country where women are treated as cattle.

Where would you rather live and why - the UK or Afghanistan?

shuggles · 04/08/2025 00:42

MightyDandelionEsq · 03/08/2025 22:43

A 12 year old girl was kidnapped and raped by two immigrants in an asylum hotel. The local police and councillors tried to keep it quiet to prevent civil unrest. The girl in Epping was also 12. It’s pretty sinister the importation of additional VAWG and lack of deportation of sex criminals.

The most logical solution to this is to impose far tougher immigration restrictions on men compared to women. It is very rare for women to commit violent crimes. Allowing more women into the country would also mean that the UK would be doing more to help the most vulnerable people.

Abasin · 04/08/2025 00:43

Can we deport white men?

I wish.

I mean, in my own personal Fantasy Land that would absolutely happen. Just deport all the men.

We don't need to be looking askance at new arrivals to the country, to root out the rapists. We have plenty here already, all home grown. Deport the fucking lot of them.

Unfortunately we can't. So we pretend that the entire problem is down to immigration. Like no woman or girl ever got raped by a British man. Instead of recognising that the problem is men, misogyny and violence, and that if we allow violent, angry, noisy men to shape our political narrative we will be actively making things worse for ourselves.

NidaNearby · 04/08/2025 00:43

Fetaface · 04/08/2025 00:40

The quota is part of that problem. Women report but are ignored because of the quota.

Also the main perpetrators of sexual assaults on children are not white men or immigrants.

What quota? I haven’t got a clue what you’re talking about. Please point to any evidence for the existence of this mysterious ‘quota’.

Fetaface · 04/08/2025 00:43

NidaNearby · 04/08/2025 00:41

What quota? Do you have any evidence for the outrageous claims you’ve made there?

Of course not, and in fact, the opposite is true. Foreign rapists are actually more likely to be released early - allegedly so they can be deported, but as we deport basically no one, in reality they just get sent to immigration detention for a few months and then bailed.

The quota that the CPS admitted to. Not a claim. CPS admitted to it. Baroness Chakrabarti reported on it.

Take 10 men to court and convict 1 = 10% conviction rate. Take 1 man to court and convict 1 = 100% conviction rate. Easy way to raise the conviction rates.

Cases have been thrown out because of it and all had strong evidence. Mine included. My rapist confessed. For some there was film footage etc.

NidaNearby · 04/08/2025 00:44

Fetaface · 04/08/2025 00:40

The quota is part of that problem. Women report but are ignored because of the quota.

Also the main perpetrators of sexual assaults on children are not white men or immigrants.

Also, have you actually read your last sentence? Did you mean to put a ‘not’ in their somewhere? Otherwise, you seem to be implying that non-white British citizens must be the biggest rapists, given that you rule out white men and immigrants…

FlamingoFloss · 04/08/2025 00:44

Showerflowers · 03/08/2025 17:33

there were several peaceful protests in my area over the last few days at hotels that are being used to house asylum seekers. Nothing on the news at all.

a local to me young lady was stabbed to death by a resident outside the asylum seekers hotel that she worked at. She was stabbed multiple times and left to die, wasn’t found for hours. Nothing on the news. Local news did report on it but scantily.

there’s a lot of unrest where I live. I think the press etc are trying not to fan the flames.

Absolutely tragic but not true it’s not:hasn’t been in the news though

www.google.com/search?q=worker.stabbed+to.death+at+asylum.+hotel&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-gb&client=safari

justasking111 · 04/08/2025 00:45

dizzydizzydizzy · 03/08/2025 18:44

How do you know? Do you have a reliable source?

It's all over Twitter, Instagram on local FB pages, foreign press.

The media won't report it because of the risk of civil unrest, innocent people get hurt when things turn nasty. And they can very fast.

This weekend there were protests in Germany, Spain, France, Poland, UK.

It's not just us but a European issue .

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