Civil unrest, what's really going on?

[Sadworld23]

My DH keeps chirping up with, there's riots here, protests there, immigrants have done assaults in xxx etc. He sees me as a bit of a do-gooder..

All UK places, but when I look at my regular news, there's very little reporting of it.

My DH has some MH issues currently and to confront him with 'what the heck are you reading?' isn't worth it right now.
I make comments such as, ooh that sounds grim and doesn't sound good, and that's very worrying, but I'd really like to know if it's really happening and where he's getting this info.

Genuine refugees aren’t all male no! But the non genuine ones seem to be - you know, the ones who destroy all their passports before they arrive here. Nobody minds genuine refugees, it’s the ones pretending to be refugees - all young men, all undocumented with no women and children in tow. Nobody knows who the hell they are because they have no documentation. Why aren’t people understanding that it’s THOSE people, not genuine refugee families and genuine refugee women and children that people are up in arms about! It’s the thousands upon thousands of undocumented ones that are arriving here every day that people are worried about. I’m sick of people labelling concerned members of the public ‘far righters’ and to be fair, it’s old and doesn’t wash anymore.

How is the fact 2 x 12yo female children have been raped by men who aren’t natives stirring up hatred? I won’t apologize that two children’s lives being destroyed upsets your narrative. Stating the truth doesn’t automatically make people a reform voter. Some of us are mothers of daughters and are genuinely upset by what is becoming a trend from men who shouldn’t be here.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy98l9j913vo

The only consolation in all this is that Labour will undoubtedly lose the next election. We are not as stupid as the govt seems to believe.

We may find it’ll keep being under reported due to the online safety bill. Illegal migration is to be targeted by censorship from the bill so I expect us to know less as time goes on.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/online-safety-act-explainer/online-safety-act-explainer

And this is the issue. The government, instead of acknowledging the issue, are just dismissing everyone’s concerns and being ‘far right racist thugs’. They are in denial and are gaslight everyone into believing people are just racist. Genuine refugees yes fine, but allowing thousands upon thousands of undocumented young males to cross the English Channel and accepting them with open arms into hotels, feeding them etc all with tax payers money and then dismissing genuine concerns of the public, making the mainstream media cover it up is something else.

You may not be on social media but you definitely have access to internet as you’re posting on here so I’d advise you to do some google research to see the extent of what’s actually happening here in the UK because it’s not what you may have thought. The BBC/ ITV/ Sky etc won’t report on it unfortunately.

Definitely! I sincerely hope that by the time the next election arrives, that it’s not too late by then.

Are you a spoof? Asylum seekers don't have documents, if they had passports and was willing to use them, they could fly hear legally like any other traveller! They want to claim asylum and arriving illegally is how they do it. There isn't going to be an announcement because they wouldn't abide by it. The only way to stop this is by stopping them getting to mainland Europe. But being as we aren't in the EU anymore we aren't privvy to much in the way of plans or resource.

Why is illegal immigration on there?
I voted Labour and wish I didn’t. But I feel I’ve voted for them but not got what it said on the tin. Amongst people I know, nobody feels they’ve done what they expected them to do.
Between not voting and Reform next time. I don’t agree with everything they say, but they can’t be said for any party.

Yes exactly 💯

No. I just don’t follow it or know how it works. I’ve clearly made wrong assumptions.

And since many are upset, surely they have to make an announcement? They’ll only be more protests

None of this is ‘because of Brexit.’

It was a specific choice that Boris Johnson’s government made, entirely separate to the Brexit process and against the expressed wishes of their voters.

You are confusing correlation with causation.

Labour have reduced the number of hotels used for asylum seekers by at least half and they've done that by ramping up processing and deportations, they've gone what you voted for but it's a long winded battle. Reform won't be in the general election, Nigel Farage has always refused to run for PM, he exploited racists to vote for Brexit to protect offshore tax havens. He won't have any money or clout or any idea how to deal with the problem that his Brexit created! There's no instant fix to Brexit swinging this door wide open and creating millions of vacancies that these illegals are needed to fill - something for those who hate benefit reforms to think about!

So you’re mostly coming at this from a pro Labour angle. Private rentals are being used instead anyway.

Oh give it a rest with your conspiracy theories! Labour have not done what they’ve said on the tin! They’ve screwed over farmers, businesses, hiked taxes! The illegal immigration saga and promises of ‘smash the gangs’ are empty promises!

Reducing migrant hotels have they? Yet 100s more are coming in by the boatload every day and being given hotels and free food at the taxpayers expense! So it’s basically one out and a few hundred more in! So where are they all going then? Newly opened to the migrants Britiannia Hotel in Canary Wharf? Or paying landlords to kick out their tennants and converting houses into HMOs to keep them here?

So discussion threads like this are to be classed as illegal?

So the BBC ARE reporting it now at least...

Wouldn’t be surprised.

And it's also "against their human rights" to determine their age from their teeth apparently

It is true tho that lots of people do that if they're economic migrants. Obvs refugees don't do this. Another sign many of these men are economic migrants

Because the tories wouldnt leave the European court of human rights, farage says he will

Brexit got rid of all the European workforce for low and unskilled work! Who else is going to do that work? Nobody on benefits wants to come off and do it! That's why we we can't just mass deport because we actually need labour! We also lost our right to return people to France! Brexit created the jobs and one way system for these people! Look at the social care recruitment crisis and the bed blocking in hospitals as a result, who do you think is going to fill those jobs that were once done by EU workers?

We need to stop immigration. I don't care at all about Tommy Robinson, I think he should be ignored. The key issue :immigration stop, dangerous migrants sent back, MUST be dealt with.

Incredible.

About the losing documents, I'm puzzled. How are they driving Ubers without a license? How are they working for deliveroo without ID? How do they get paid without bank accounts?

Yes, apparently it's classed as an extreme right wing terrorist ideology now