Sara’s killer dad fighting for his life after being attacked by other prisoners

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www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14245311/Sara-Sharifs-killer-father-neck-slashed-tuna-lid-prison-attack-fighting-life.html

Attacking a child killer isn’t running the show.

I don’t get these extreme responses. Is it hyperbole? No one suggested attacking an inmate is running the prison.

Excellent.

Of course it is. We've had post after post saying there is a hierarchy and 'code of conduct'. There shouldn't be. It is not up to violent men to attack other violent men.

Disclaimer I have no sympathy for the man attacked but really they are all criminals in there for serious crimes. Not some self appointed lynch mob.

My first thought was that I hope they don't kill him too quickly, since that poor girl lived in pain and terror for so long when she was at his non existent mercy.
After having time to think I still feel the same way. The thought of him experiencing the same levels of terror, pain and helplessness that he inflicted on her doesn't bother me at all.

He’s a snivelling coward who used women and children as punchbags and tortured his own child to death.

He’ll be whimpering like a petrified worm under his covers terrified that some bastard hard man, doing life for something awful, but not as awful as killing a child or hurting women, is going to deal him a painful death in the middle of the night, and no one will help.

Shame he’s alive, but he’s now living in fear, like his daughter did.

In your view then, his loss of liberty is the ultimate punishment for the sustained torture, sadistic abuse and ultimate murder of a small, defenceless child? He'll not be able to pop to the shops or go out for dinner but he can spend his time learning another language or picking up a trade behind bars and that's it? The other prisoners all interact respectfully with one another and the guards show them nothing but tenderness and compassion?

Come on!

He received rough justice and he deserves it, quite frankly.

Running the show definition is being the leader in charge of the whole group.

two men attacking this animal does not mean they run the prison and all prisoners in it,

I’ve long said that only men, can stop other men.

If men didn’t look on as we are abused, assaulted, raped and killed, it would happen much less. They do nothing when it happens. It suits them for us to be scared.

I’m glad that in every prison there is a man who takes down the sickest, most depraved evil shite.

I’m not sure I agree that men as a whole look on as we are abused, raped, killed etc. in fact I’d say the vast majority of men don’t look on and watch. I know no man who would do such a thing. They would all step in. and have done.

generally these things are done behind closed doors, or down a dark alley, in secret. It is a rare occasion it is done in front of other men. Unless they too are of the same ilk. And the reason it’s done in private is these men know other men will stop them.

however I absolutely agree, it is on other men to stop it,but these men who commit these heinous crimes don’t look at things like this as a warning. They do it anyway thinking they won’t be caught.

in this instance it wasn’t just a man though, there were two men and one woman killing this little girl. Her step mother even bit her, repeatedly, as she lay there with her broken bones and iron burns.

Sorry you misunderstand. I don't mean that they literally run the show and are now enconsed in the boss's office organising staffing and budgets, I mean on a hierarchical point of view they will be top dogs revered by other equally violent men, running the show from the prison floor.

As a pp said if only men would stick up for women and childen when the violent attacks are actually taking place! I bet if any of these violent crims were the neighbours of a child being abused they'd turn the telly up and carry on with their day as everyone else seems to do. Yet once in prison they are social justice warriors . It is very superficial and code of honour labels not remotely believable.

ok, I agree in the prison heirarchy.

I disagree on the if they were neighbours they’d ignore it. In my anecdotal experience of having some senior police officers in the family and social circle. They are more likely to go round there and knock seven barrels of shit out the culprit if they thought that was going on.

don’t mistake the fact someone is violent to adults as meaning they excuse child violence. Nothing could be further from the truth,

I don't agree with the death penalty, but once assisted dying is allowed for those with mental health issues, perhaps people like Sara's father could opt in?

Firstly assisted dying isn’t going to be allowed for mental illness and neither should it be.

Secondly, there is a reason why prisoners are placed on suicide watch

This.

Spineless coward gets (part one of) his comeuppance because it turns out that the jails aren’t in fact populated by women and children.

He thought he was a big man when his only opponent was a young child. We’ll see how he does against another man who perhaps isn’t afraid to kill.

Hope he never sleeps until someone extinguishes his miserable existence.

What? So he can take the easy way out and not suffer like he inflicted on his child? That won’t ever be permitted. If he wants to die he will need to find a way to do it himself. Not have someone step in and do him a mercy.

At least that thing (Sara's father) will now understand what it's like to be attacked unprovoked.
It may not change anything but the dude should not be having an easy time over there. That's too good for him

I don't revel in this happening. I just don't care that it did. And in my view it's a bit win win.

As someone else said he's month one into a 40 year prison sentence. He's not beating a defenceless girl now, he's in with the same vile creatures as him and he's going to be looking over his shoulder daily. I see no issue with that.

And as for the person who did it, also no doubt a vile thug, however as we have only a handful of true lifers in our prisons, then whoever did it, will likely get a few more years added onto the end of their sentence. I see that as positive as it keeps them off the street longer too.

I have absolutely no sympathy for him at all.

Quite. Paedophiles are usually the compliant ones, this attack smacks of a couple of prisoners with a nasty attitude, not other sex offenders. I bet he was on a normal wing where he wanted to take his chances. He will be on the vulnerable prisoner wing now guaranteed.

Exactly, child abusers, whatever format that abuse takes, don’t normally attack each other. I’d put good money on this being a couple of violent prisoners getting revenge for Sarah , and their poision /crime will be adult on adult violence.

Lots of speculation on the wing this creature is on but I don’t think being in general halls is an option.

They must go to protection to ensure the smooth running of the prison. There is no choice to stay in with general inmates as it would be suicide.

I worked in a prison where there was a notorious killer (not a child killer but the victim was disabled) and because of health issues (he needed a disabled cell with more room/bathroom adaptions) he spent some time in general before one became available in the protection unit. He was behind his door 24 hours a day, 7 days a week and any medication/food was delivered through the hatch in the door when the other guys were locked up.

All day, every day, people shouted at his door, ran up and kicked it, told him if they saw him he’d die. They spat and pissed in his food, put semen in his drinks. There’s no way someone like Sharif could go into general, not in a million years.

Nobody goes to Bellmarsh for stealing a loaf of bread. Every single one of those prisoners is capable of murdering a child, and many of them have done, or would happily do so given half the chance.

Bellmarsh houses e.g. terror suspects, you know, the kinds of people who blow up the likes of Manchester arena where plenty of teenage children are, and if the scum who had done that hadn’t killed himself in the process that’s where he and his ilk would be.

You have absolutely no idea what crimes these people have committed. But what you do know is that they are the UK’s most dangerous criminals, and that they are a risk to society.

But they’ve done exactly what they set out to do, they’ve gained notoriety, not only in Belmarsh, but also at the gleeful people who are haling them as heroes for being the violent thugs that they are.

Come on, that’s a silly statement that every single person in Bellmarsh is capable of killing a child.

Jeffrey Archer? Tommy Robinson? Julian Assange?

Cmon, that’s so extreme as to be cringe. Belmarsh houses many types of criminals, they aren’t all child killers or any more capable of it than I am,, the fact someone committed a serious crime doesn’t mean they kill kids or would, maybe read up on it.

Hadn't heard of him, looked him up. I hope he suffers immensely for what he did to that poor little girl. Vile individual.

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I don't agree with the death penalty, but once assisted dying is allowed for those with mental health issues, perhaps people like Sara's father could opt in?

And there we have it, assisted dying as social solution. It was bound to be stated, sooner or later. Shocking.