Sara’s killer dad fighting for his life after being attacked by other prisoners

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www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14245311/Sara-Sharifs-killer-father-neck-slashed-tuna-lid-prison-attack-fighting-life.html

This can’t be a serious question. You think the prisons are full of innocent people? There was no doubt that animal was guilty. If you think otherwise petition the goverment.

Whataboutery aside. GOOD!

I'm not normally a heartless person , but if he dies , it will save us all a load of money by not having to stump up for the prison sentence !

No I didn’t say that, but as the Malkinson case proves there are a few who are innocent. And if we encourage prison vigilante murders they could be the victim as much as Urfan Sharif. Plus if we encourage prisoners to murder each other, it won’t just be rapists and child murderers who die- anyone who’s sent to prison for anything will be fair game.

Yep, this. They too will be a couple of wronguns. Mark my word

Honestly just stop with the whataboutery. The man was guilty. What they did to that little girl was heinous. He deserved it.

The prison population also has an awful lot of people who grew up being abused by men just like him.

I can't often say I've understood the mindset of a prison inmate, but feeling the urge to mete out some rough justice to this piece of human scum? Yup.

Absolutely. It’s very well-known that there’s a strict code of honour amongst inmates and that child killers and paedophiles are notoriously high targets for retribution attacks. There’s also kudos and credibility to be earned by assaulting a higher profile prisoner. It’s impossible for the guards to 100% guarantee the safety of high risk or vulnerable prisoners who have committed crimes like this specimen has (I refuse to name him).

Who give a shit about this monster? Hope he lives a long and constantly terrified life.

incredibly valid. There is a huge chance the man or men who did this, also suffered as children.

however even if not, this case was so utterly heinous, and his guilt in absolutely no doubt, that whilst I don’t applaud the men who did it, I understand it, and have no issue with it at all.

prison inmates meting out justice to the worst child offenders is as old as time. The inmates who do it, are not “like” the child abusers and killers. The nuance there is being missed by those sympathetic to them and wishing them not to be harmed.

as said, I really hope the other two culprits get some of the same, and all 3 of them live the rest of their lives in the horrific fear and pain, that little girl suffered at their hands.

in fact id happily deliver the baseball bat myself for them to break their bones.

I actually like the idea of oubliette dungeons for scum like him.

I'm surprised he wasn't on a vulnerable prisoners wing or even segregation , he deserves to have a bad time in prison .
A vulnerable wing holds people that would be at risk of being on a normal wing . That means paedophiles , child killers , rapists , prisoners who owe other prisoners money , and sometimes well known prisoners such as celebrities choose to go there and also policemen and judges etc .
However they are all judged as scum on there and automatically seen as paedophiles by the majority of prison inmates as paedophiles are what makes up the majority of the wing .

You have zero idea how or why this happened. It might’ve been from a drug dealer out of his head on spice, or a fight over the last lucozade. You’re making wild assumptions that this is even justice. These are violent men, the worst of our country.

the criminals meting out justice is folklore and an excuse for violent criminals to lose their temper and get their fix. The type of people who say this are the sort who say “the streets were safe when the krays owned them”

Yet I bet you oppose capital punishment, it's ok for another prisoner to kill him but not the State. A lot of double standards in this thread.

You do realise that if they have a life sentence then they are likely scum themselves?

This is kind of my stance. Those wings are full of people who are violent, who hurt other people and who justify it to themselves when their victims are innocent, it's why they're there, so it's no great leap to understand they'd do it to each other, knowing the one they're attacking isn't innocent, all of them have likely committed awful crimes.
There is a hierarchy, where child abusers are the lowest, but maybe that's because they've been abusing those who can't fight back, and when faced with adults who are quite willing and capable to inflict on another adult, and probably have done, they're not equipped to deal with it - I think that's part of what makes them a target.

I don't think those who have done it are hero's standing up for the vulnerable, there may well be vulnerable people in their past that they've hurt, they're in prison for a reason. They'll use it as a defence, but I think it's an entirely predictable result of getting yourself locked up with people who are also violent.

And we're also expecting prison officers to step in and risk themselves to defend these people, although yes, we can expect that of a prison officer, it's a big ask, and that should be recognised.

The only way around that is far more staff in prisons and better accomodation that separates people - and in all honesty I think that especially in the current financial climate, we've got better things to spend that money on.

I don't think encouraging this sort of thing is right, but I'm not sorry it happened after the fact.

I think this should not have happened as prisons are meant to be regulated and safe for all prisoners. That said it is hard to have sympathy for this individual.

And again. This isn’t about what they’ve done now, it’s about what they’ve done in order to be here.

We all know that killing another adult isn’t the same. But we don’t know that these people aren’t child killers in their own right.

So by that thinking you’ll be ok for this man to kill someone else in ten years time because of their crimes. At that point he’ll be a hero, because the person he’s killed will be another man, never mind that he killed a child in the first place.

prison inmates meting out justice to the worst child offenders is as old as time. The inmates who do it, are not “like” the child abusers and killers. The nuance there is being missed by those sympathetic to them and wishing them not to be harmed. could you share their credentials with us so that we can also know, as you apparently do, who they are and what they’re in prison for?

Owmyelbow · Yesterday 22:40
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Maybe he's starting to experience the level of fear she lived with

This. Evil bastard. I hope he lives for a very, very long time and experiences terror every minute of every day.

Oh dear terrible shame

God the romanticisation of prison is alive in this thread. 'Code of honour' 'hierarchies' you probably all lap sup the mafia films and think they were all honourable, and oh yes, the Krays loved their mum. 🙄

In comparison to the torture and abuse inflicted on his own child, so what if he's got a few slashes with a tin lid.
May he experience even a modicum of the fear his daughter lived with, in her own home.

If he was "fighting for his life" wouldn't he be in hospital. Attacks happen in prison, he's not the first or last, no sympathy but prisons have a duty of care, bloody awful job, understaffed, abused, he will probably be moved to his own cell if he's not already.