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Jews being hunted on streets of Amsterdam

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RatitesUnite · 08/11/2024 05:26

Horrific footage all over social media of baying mobs hunting down Jews and beating them unconscious on the streets of Amsterdam.

Never again is now. Weak fearful police forces and politicians have allowed this poison to fester all over the western world. Absolute disgraceful scenes on the streets of so called tolerant Europe.

edition.cnn.com/2024/11/07/europe/israel-soccer-fans-attacked-amsterdam-intl-hnk/index.html

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yesmen · 08/11/2024 15:31

*pogroms

2triangles · 08/11/2024 15:32

Golden407 · 08/11/2024 15:01

Can you explain how this qualifies as a pogrom? I've read multiple reports of Israeli fans tearing down Palestinian flags and singing songs about dead Palestinian children, the situation escalated from there

It was planned in advance and had nothing to do with the abhorrent behaviour of some Maccabi fans, Israel ministry of diaspora affairs warned Dutch authorities some time before the attack which included cars ramming into pedestrians, knives and other violence aimed not only at football supporters but Amsterdam residents.

www.yahoo.com/news/israel-informed-dutch-authorities-potential-115724631.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAD1ixqFlSyzv6LQjh0213840PbV-9IFNYtNLKEbSDCkiLNPh2FA2brdZyR2ye_s5F-J9OctmRpINM4kwcR3jARcEgIjeQyk81aSnVrcLQ_c-hlNixONP67eSM0QO3qzWbSa1ZgzR8P628-VmhLX7AN2IBfOcUGB7skgrkCgpzH--

2triangles · 08/11/2024 15:41

Amsterdam residents perceived to be Jewish that is.

Golden407 · 08/11/2024 16:51

2triangles · 08/11/2024 15:32

It was planned in advance and had nothing to do with the abhorrent behaviour of some Maccabi fans, Israel ministry of diaspora affairs warned Dutch authorities some time before the attack which included cars ramming into pedestrians, knives and other violence aimed not only at football supporters but Amsterdam residents.

www.yahoo.com/news/israel-informed-dutch-authorities-potential-115724631.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAD1ixqFlSyzv6LQjh0213840PbV-9IFNYtNLKEbSDCkiLNPh2FA2brdZyR2ye_s5F-J9OctmRpINM4kwcR3jARcEgIjeQyk81aSnVrcLQ_c-hlNixONP67eSM0QO3qzWbSa1ZgzR8P628-VmhLX7AN2IBfOcUGB7skgrkCgpzH--

Ok, to be fair little to none of that seems to have happened. There have been no cars driven into pedestrians, no locals seem to have been targeted. There have been incidents involving knives but that seems to be a feature of all football related violence.
This seems to support the idea that this is purely football related violence and nothing more.

2triangles · 08/11/2024 17:13

Golden407 · 08/11/2024 16:51

Ok, to be fair little to none of that seems to have happened. There have been no cars driven into pedestrians, no locals seem to have been targeted. There have been incidents involving knives but that seems to be a feature of all football related violence.
This seems to support the idea that this is purely football related violence and nothing more.

Some residents have reported being denied entry to their buildings by fundamental jihad extremists who perceived them as Jewish or Israeli and demanding proof of their identity. This is why the king of the Netherlands, the chief of police, several politicians and even the mayor of Amsterdam herself acknowledge that they failed to protect their own Jewish citizens from a pre planned terrorist attack. That does not support your idea that this was somehow little more than normal football hooliganism, it refutes it.

There are many reports of people being run over, in previous posts I have twice linked to an interview with an Ajax fan who was injured by the jihadists when he helped an Israeli who was being attacked - this Ajax supporter describes cars being driven into pedestrians among other atrocities.

2triangles · 08/11/2024 17:16

King Willem-Alexander of the Netherlands to Israeli President Herzog: “We failed the Jewish community of the Netherlands during the Second World War and last night we failed again”

x.com/visegrad24/status/1854916850179584313

Ramblingnamechanger · 08/11/2024 18:18

It is male violence. Women are not involved. Let’s name the perpetrators as men. Always.

Golden407 · 08/11/2024 19:01

2triangles · 08/11/2024 17:13

Some residents have reported being denied entry to their buildings by fundamental jihad extremists who perceived them as Jewish or Israeli and demanding proof of their identity. This is why the king of the Netherlands, the chief of police, several politicians and even the mayor of Amsterdam herself acknowledge that they failed to protect their own Jewish citizens from a pre planned terrorist attack. That does not support your idea that this was somehow little more than normal football hooliganism, it refutes it.

There are many reports of people being run over, in previous posts I have twice linked to an interview with an Ajax fan who was injured by the jihadists when he helped an Israeli who was being attacked - this Ajax supporter describes cars being driven into pedestrians among other atrocities.

Can you provide a some links, I can't find anything regarding cars being driven into people or locals being targeted?

Artistbythewater · 08/11/2024 19:17

2triangles · 08/11/2024 17:32

The first evacuated Israelis have made it home

https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/2024-11-08/live-updates-828163

It’s just unthinkable that Jewish people are being EVACUATED out of a safe and peaceful wester. Democracy - in 2024. Jesus Christ. The Dutch must be beyond mortified that this is happening in their country. I just can’t believe it.

Artistbythewater · 08/11/2024 19:20

Golden407 · 08/11/2024 16:51

Ok, to be fair little to none of that seems to have happened. There have been no cars driven into pedestrians, no locals seem to have been targeted. There have been incidents involving knives but that seems to be a feature of all football related violence.
This seems to support the idea that this is purely football related violence and nothing more.

The Jewish people are not allowed to leave their hotel rooms even now! How on earth can anyone describe this as a run of the mill football game. The deliberate efforts to misrepresent the facts on here is sickening. Three people are still missing.
People are being evacuated out of the Netherlands this is long way from a bit of a brawl.

2triangles · 08/11/2024 19:31

Golden407 · 08/11/2024 19:01

Can you provide a some links, I can't find anything regarding cars being driven into people or locals being targeted?

The hit and run attacks were mostly scooters and taxi cabs. Many passports were stolen. Organised on Telegram: https://x.com/NiohBerg/status/1854879419640283282

From the BBC:

"Several videos circulated on social media, with one showing a man being kicked and beaten on the ground and another showing someone being run over. ."

""I am deeply ashamed of the behaviour that unfolded," Halsema told reporters. "On Telegram [messaging] groups people talked of going to hunt down Jews. It's so terrible I can't find the words for it."
The mayor confirmed reports that taxi drivers had been involved in the attacks, after the head of the Netherlands' Central Jewish Committee (CJO) said they had "moved in groups and cornered their targets".
Israeli airline El Al said it was operating two "rescue flights" to Amsterdam to bring passengers back to Israel."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2y33ee1klo

and

"Adi Reuben, 24, said he was kicked on the floor and had his nose broken when he and his friends were confronted by a group of over 10 men while walking back to their hotel.
The men asked Mr Reuben where he and his friends were from. "They shouted 'Jewish, Jewish, IDF, IDF',” he said, referring to the Israeli military.
Police say the violence involved men on scooters carrying out "hit and run" attacks which were difficult to prevent.
"They started to mess with me and I realised I had to run, but it was dark and I didn't know where to go. I fell to the floor and 10 people were kicking me. They were shouting ‘Palestine’," Mr Reuben told the BBC.
"They were kicking me on the floor for about a minute, then they walked off, they weren’t afraid of anything.
“I realised I had full blood on my* *face and my nose was broken and it is very painful."
Mr Reuben said he could not see properly for about 30 minutes, but decided against going to hospital in Amsterdam because he had heard that taxi drivers were involved in the violence.
Instead he said he was flying to Israel on Friday afternoon and would get medical treatment there.
He added that it appeared to be "a specific attack that was organised beforehand".

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckgv4mdr9y8o

A crowd of people, many with dark jackets and hoods on, standing in front of a huge bright fire

Amsterdam: We must not turn blind eye to antisemitism, says Dutch king after attacks on Israeli football fans

Willem-Alexander says Jewish people must feel safe in the Netherlands after Israeli football supporters come under attack.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2y33ee1klo

2triangles · 08/11/2024 19:32

Artistbythewater · 08/11/2024 19:20

The Jewish people are not allowed to leave their hotel rooms even now! How on earth can anyone describe this as a run of the mill football game. The deliberate efforts to misrepresent the facts on here is sickening. Three people are still missing.
People are being evacuated out of the Netherlands this is long way from a bit of a brawl.

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Everyone is accounted for now thankfully.

Artistbythewater · 08/11/2024 19:36

2triangles · 08/11/2024 19:32

Everyone is accounted for now thankfully.

Well thank god for that, it doesn’t make the rest of it any better. I am lost for words.

2triangles · 08/11/2024 19:47

content warning for footage of a hit and run and other violence

https://x.com/elikowaz/status/1854751456110268427

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https://x.com/elikowaz/status/1854751456110268427

KoalaBC · 08/11/2024 21:16

Here we have the Maccabi fans continuing their racist chants at Ben Gurion airport once reaching Israel

“IDF will f* the arabs
Why is school out in Gaza?
There are no children left there”

https://x.com/ytirawi/status/1854988410022183024?t=iIlDiU4rA9wLGBmIM5oDxA&s=19

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https://x.com/ytirawi/status/1854988410022183024?s=19&t=iIlDiU4rA9wLGBmIM5oDxA

KoalaBC · 08/11/2024 21:17

The IQ level doesn't seem very high.

Millie1501 · 08/11/2024 23:03

To those of you justifying this level of violence by saying “ they started it by chanting things”, your morals are very questionable. Nothing justifies this level of violence, saying stuff certainly doesn’t justify it and neither does burning a flag. Let’s not pretend that pro Palestine mobs haven’t been calling for violence against Jews on their marches for a very long time, well before this football match. The majority of the time they have been allowed to do that and unchallenged. Anti semitism is definitely on the rise in Europe, more violent attacks, chants to attack, rape or kill Jews at these marches. The Israelis are blamed for everything atm, people even blame them for that horrid attack on October 7th.

This is a very concerning time for Jews and Europe. I’ve been saying to my husband for a while that I am concerned about attacks against the Jews because of all the hatred being directed towards them atm. These pro Palestine matches are extremely divisive and hateful. They do not want to acknowledge that Hamas have done any wrong and in many of them express support to Hamas. They are terrorists, not resistance fighters. I wish we would stop pandering to these mobs who take to the streets weekly and wreak havoc.

andIsaid · 08/11/2024 23:50

Artistbythewater · 08/11/2024 19:17

It’s just unthinkable that Jewish people are being EVACUATED out of a safe and peaceful wester. Democracy - in 2024. Jesus Christ. The Dutch must be beyond mortified that this is happening in their country. I just can’t believe it.

But did they have to be evacuated?

This is shocking levels of manipulation.

andIsaid · 08/11/2024 23:53

Millie1501 · 08/11/2024 23:03

To those of you justifying this level of violence by saying “ they started it by chanting things”, your morals are very questionable. Nothing justifies this level of violence, saying stuff certainly doesn’t justify it and neither does burning a flag. Let’s not pretend that pro Palestine mobs haven’t been calling for violence against Jews on their marches for a very long time, well before this football match. The majority of the time they have been allowed to do that and unchallenged. Anti semitism is definitely on the rise in Europe, more violent attacks, chants to attack, rape or kill Jews at these marches. The Israelis are blamed for everything atm, people even blame them for that horrid attack on October 7th.

This is a very concerning time for Jews and Europe. I’ve been saying to my husband for a while that I am concerned about attacks against the Jews because of all the hatred being directed towards them atm. These pro Palestine matches are extremely divisive and hateful. They do not want to acknowledge that Hamas have done any wrong and in many of them express support to Hamas. They are terrorists, not resistance fighters. I wish we would stop pandering to these mobs who take to the streets weekly and wreak havoc.

Hamas are scum of the earth and what they did is unconscionable.

I have zero problem saying that.

I have a massive problem with the bloodlust of this Israeli government and their deliberate bombing campaign of all civilians, all infrastructure in Gaza Strip and now using starvation to finish the job.

This two positions can co exist for me.

Football hooligans are assholes.

Millie1501 · 09/11/2024 00:29

andIsaid · 08/11/2024 23:53

Hamas are scum of the earth and what they did is unconscionable.

I have zero problem saying that.

I have a massive problem with the bloodlust of this Israeli government and their deliberate bombing campaign of all civilians, all infrastructure in Gaza Strip and now using starvation to finish the job.

This two positions can co exist for me.

Football hooligans are assholes.

Israel have been constantly under attack since October 7th. They have had rockets, drones and plans from Hezbollah to commit an attack worse than October 7th. They are not blood thirsty. The attacks have not stopped and the hostages were not returned. If Israel behaved like Hamas and used their own civilians as human shields many many more Israelis would be dead. At least 200, 000 have been displaced. What is a country meant to do when its entire existence is being threatened, it’s being relentlessly attacked and hostages are taken from their home never to be returned.

GhostCicada · 09/11/2024 01:09

What is a country meant to do when its entire existence is being threatened, it’s being relentlessly attacked and hostages are taken from their home never to be returned.

If Israel actually allowed Palestine to be a country you could easily be talking about Palestine there. It's existence denied, all of it's infrastructure flattened, relentlessly bombed, people including healthcare workers taken away never to be seen again. Palestinians have been constantly under attack for a very long time, 3 violent Israeli settler attacks against Palestinians every single day last year prior to Oct 7, 100s of Palestinians killed prior to Oct 7, apparently nobody told the settlers and the IDF that there was there was this ceasefire in place that people keep talking about Hamas breaking. What are Palestinians supposed to do? Give up their land and homes and be slaughtered in their 1000s apparently while the world watches on and calls them 'collateral damage'.

It's quite a stark contrast to the killing of over 40000 people, 70% of them women and children, the absolute destruction of Gaza, the land grabs and settler violence in the West Bank that Israel are being excused for because 'what else are they supposed to do'.

Millie1501 · 09/11/2024 01:18

GhostCicada · 09/11/2024 01:09

What is a country meant to do when its entire existence is being threatened, it’s being relentlessly attacked and hostages are taken from their home never to be returned.

If Israel actually allowed Palestine to be a country you could easily be talking about Palestine there. It's existence denied, all of it's infrastructure flattened, relentlessly bombed, people including healthcare workers taken away never to be seen again. Palestinians have been constantly under attack for a very long time, 3 violent Israeli settler attacks against Palestinians every single day last year prior to Oct 7, 100s of Palestinians killed prior to Oct 7, apparently nobody told the settlers and the IDF that there was there was this ceasefire in place that people keep talking about Hamas breaking. What are Palestinians supposed to do? Give up their land and homes and be slaughtered in their 1000s apparently while the world watches on and calls them 'collateral damage'.

It's quite a stark contrast to the killing of over 40000 people, 70% of them women and children, the absolute destruction of Gaza, the land grabs and settler violence in the West Bank that Israel are being excused for because 'what else are they supposed to do'.

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You are talking nonsense, Israel left Gaza in 2007. Palestine have been offered a two state solution several times but has declined. Palestine were given billions, well they voted in Hamas who have spent that money on tunnels rockets etc. These terrorists have been living a life of luxury and have neglected their civilians. Of course Israeli soldiers occupy some of their land, they have been threatening to remove Israel entirely for years, they pose a massive security threat to Israel. Hamas have made it clear they do not want a two state solution, they believe all of Israel should be Palestine. Israel is the only Jewish state in the world, they have a right to exist.

Also it is estimated that one civilian has been killed per terrorist. So your 70% women and children doesn’t add up. It would be very difficult for the soldiers to kill just terrorists and get no civilians especially when Hamas are using them as human shields. I blame the jihadis of all these deaths.

GhostCicada · 09/11/2024 01:34

Millie1501 · 09/11/2024 01:18

You are talking nonsense, Israel left Gaza in 2007. Palestine have been offered a two state solution several times but has declined. Palestine were given billions, well they voted in Hamas who have spent that money on tunnels rockets etc. These terrorists have been living a life of luxury and have neglected their civilians. Of course Israeli soldiers occupy some of their land, they have been threatening to remove Israel entirely for years, they pose a massive security threat to Israel. Hamas have made it clear they do not want a two state solution, they believe all of Israel should be Palestine. Israel is the only Jewish state in the world, they have a right to exist.

Also it is estimated that one civilian has been killed per terrorist. So your 70% women and children doesn’t add up. It would be very difficult for the soldiers to kill just terrorists and get no civilians especially when Hamas are using them as human shields. I blame the jihadis of all these deaths.

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How is nonsense to say Israel killed 100s of Palestinians in 2023 prior to Oct 7, that is the truth. Google it if you are unsure. 3 violent settler attacks a day against Palestinians also true. Palestinians disappeared by Israel also true. Israel denying Palestine the right to exist also true, they can just leave, just like the ICJ have ordered the to, nobody will complain, just take their 700,000 illegal settlers and go,stop their military occupation of Gaza, defend Israel from inside Israel instead of by occupation, apartheid and illegal blockade.

Israel have made it clear that they don't want a two state solution, they are actively denying Palestines right to exist.

Not a single word of my post was untrue or nonsense as you put it, and you've said nothing in your post that disproves anything that I have said. All you did was try and justify illegal occupation with of course their soldiers occupy some of their land, completely ommiting the 10% of Israelis that also occupy their land in the West Bank and East Jerusalem. With some of those 10% being violent, extremist settlers that those soldiers you talk about defend as they commit atrocities like the pogrom(as described by an Israeli commander) in Huawra in March 2023 when there was supposedly a 'ceasefire'. All you have done is write 'what else are Israel suppose to do' in a different way.

andIsaid · 09/11/2024 02:27

Millie1501 · 09/11/2024 00:29

Israel have been constantly under attack since October 7th. They have had rockets, drones and plans from Hezbollah to commit an attack worse than October 7th. They are not blood thirsty. The attacks have not stopped and the hostages were not returned. If Israel behaved like Hamas and used their own civilians as human shields many many more Israelis would be dead. At least 200, 000 have been displaced. What is a country meant to do when its entire existence is being threatened, it’s being relentlessly attacked and hostages are taken from their home never to be returned.

But Israel does exist.

It is a fact.

If you want to discuss this in Israeli terms then let's do it - Hamas hid in civilian areas therefore it is ok to blow up the civilians to get Hamas? Not their fault - it is the fault of Hamas for hiding there. Correct?

Using that -

Hamas invaded Israel and captured IDF soldiers. Because everyone over the age of 17 serves in the army there. Three years for the men and two for the women. So Hamas hit a military target and took military hostages.

It is a war - they practiced war fare.

Israel gets the entire population of Gaza including the women and children, the infrastructure and Norther Gaza for the new settlers.

Hamas get Israeli soldiers.