Man killed by own XL Bully dog in home

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Will anything be done ? Will it bogroll,

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cdrlkn8m35no

Again, agree. And they have to be so vigilant (well, we all do, but I am more concerned about my kids with their whole lives ahead of them than myself) because these horrible high-risk dogs are in our neighbourhoods.
My elderly nest door neighbour is really concerned about the bullybreed dog that gets walked past our homes, the woman walking it would not be able to stop it if it decides to attack, and it looks too short to be an XL, but it is certainly big enough to do serious damage, and cause death, if it wanted to.
Makes me so mad.

A friend uses a mobility scooter and tries to go out as little as possible as she lives near a park so there are dogs a plenty on the nearby streets which isn't great if you r top speed is 4mph.

However, to be fair, she'd never use the park anyway. Not wanting to be pushed off the scooter and left for dead. Which is probably another thread.

The headline could have read "man takes ticking time bomb into home, bomb explodes, man killed." Heart broken family quoted as saying "who'd've thunked such a thing could've happened, it was such a purty-lookin' time bomb"

Any dog can turn, I just rate my chances against against a jack Russel much more highly than an XL Bully...

Rest assured I did win in a scrap against a jack Russel 😂😂 A scrap I didn't want mind lol!

I'm not sure what your saying. These dogs were not covered by current legislation so they wernt banned dogs. They wouldn't have had to be muzzled, they couldn't be ordered to be euthanized unless/until they did something and there wernt any additional conditions regarding them. They were several very large dogs, most probably untrained who presumably acted as a pack when someone, not their owner was (not) in control. Very dangerous yes, perfect storm if you like but if we are talking xl bullies attacking people these were not xl bullies, so slipped through any legislation. So are you saying unless ALL dogs are subject to legislation the current laws mean nothing or just dogs over a certain size, weight, stature. Just interested really.

Totally 1000% this! I couldn't agree more with everything you've written in this thread. As far as I'm concerned, the only good (and safe) XLBully is a dead XLBully. Period.

I'm not sure what your saying.

I am saying that any attempt to deal with problem by arsing around pretending we can be 100% definitive about a breed of dog is doomed to failure.

All that will happen is that when the emergency services are literally picking up the pieces of the latest victim to be reassembled on a mortuary slab, the offending dog(s) will have to be subject to "investigation" as to whether they are in the current vogue for "banned breeds". Which is what happens now.

https://www.tvguide.co.uk/schedule/1ad5f37f-740b-585c-96b4-a99587b8eeed/death-row-dogs-save-my-xl-bully

and in the aftermath of yet another death at the hands of these dogs
wonder how many times we will hear the phrase “it’s the owners not the breed”
that must be why equal numbers of deaths occur that are forensically and evidentially attributable to other canine breeds

I'm currently watching 'Death row dogs' on ch4. The owners keep saying 'it's the owners not the dog'. But lots of shit owners have different breeds of dogs which don't maul and kill people, so the argument clearly doesn't add up.
But I'm really confused about 'it's the owner not the dog' mantra on the programme, because some of the dogs are clearly a ticking time bomb.

Well done for sticking it out, I'd switch off after about 30 secs, I find it so horrifying & abhorrent. BUT that's part of the problem, the more we vehemently dislike those dogs the more the enthusiasts want to protect and defend them.
Whilst the govt stands idly & toothlessly by . . .

Blackshuk3 I actually dont dislike xl bullies, and I'm sure as a working dog, in some remote location far, far away from most humans, they could be a real asset. But all bull breeds were bred to fight; it's so deeply ingrained in their psyche that none of them make ideal pets. xl bullies in particular have been designed to be the fiercest of all the breeds, and they just weren't bred to be pets.
It's so depressing how the owners just refuse to see these dogs for the animal they were bred to be. It's even more depressing how these owners see themselves as good owners, when it's clear some really, really don't understand their dog at all. I'll now just wait for news to come of another avoidable death....and the chorus of 'it's the owner not the dog' mantra again.
The ch4 program shows the owners and the dogs in a very clear light, if the owners thought they'd raise compassion for the breed, they've been very much mistaken, indeed it just reinforces the notion that these dogs, are not suitable for family/ domestic life, or any location close to human habitation.

Google “toadline bullies”

Ewww.

What a horrible thing to do to an animal (breeding it like that I mean).

Those poor dogs, their life expectancy is 4-6 years, and they spend a lot of time in pain

That woman was clearly a nightmare waiting to happen. The black & tan bitch was so laid back she was horizontal, but the merle male was clearly a very different kettle of fish and uncomfortable in many of the situations. I suspect he wasn’t as integrated in family life as she’d have liked us to believe, but those are exactly the dogs where attacks happen.

‘Go in there out of the way with the kids. Don’t eat them.’ Hilarious. Let’s hope she’s still laughing in the future.🙄

Re the tv programme.

The 3/4 of dogs shown aren't even XL Bullies though.

The Woman's (The dog next to her child)
The Dog Trainer
The man in charge of the march

It's strange. Although I know they are Bully TYPES as people keep telling me on here.

There was no discussion it was just a bunch of dog owners crying about it!

It was weird. I'm not sure what they wanted to get out of it. I only saw one XL too.

Imagine living on that cul de sac with Chantelle / Charlene?

Do you seriously think we should be feeling compassion for an animal that has hurt a human?

Do you understand the word “effective”?

And since you ask, yes, I think if this is now a regular occurrence in our society it is safer FOR HUMANS to have trained officers knowing the best way to end an attack. If you think a dog should suffer a prolonged death/torture then I’ve no further response.

Ridiculous.

I actually think compassion for an animal that has killed is paramount in some cases.

Wrong: hunting and killing a shark that attacked a human in the ocean. Killing a zoo animal when a human got into their enclosure. Killing a safari animal. All wrong.

These dogs are inbred freaks and it's not their fault but they are being kept as pets which is inhumane.

So who should house and keep a dog that has removed a persons limbs one by one ? And who should pay ?

Not my taxes for a start.

Nobody, it should be humanely put down.

Turns out the dogs in the Rubery case were "banned" breeds.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c05j0z7yv8lo

The victim actually looks typical of an xl owner