Man killed by own XL Bully dog in home

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Will anything be done ? Will it bogroll,

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cdrlkn8m35no

Fortunately, there doesn't seem to be much interest in the posts on this page. Unless, people are just sending direct messages.

These were not his dogs either. The three missing dogs could be anywhere. The area that they are searching is huge.

He's breeding a lot of dogs so someone must be buying them. I just checked out the RSPCA and they don't want to know. In fact they were against the ban. Difficult to complain to police as we don't know which country he's based in. Similarly which local council would enforce their licensing banning breeding?
There was a documentary on tv a couple of years ago, by Samantha Poling, probably Panorama, where she posed as a buyer. Exposed all sorts of bad practices to get round breeding licensing. And nothing was done!
Another website selling puppies. American Bully puppies for sale | Pets4Homes

Madness!! Only a certain " type" would keep these animals and thats exactly what they are... reactionary, powerful, uncontrollable animals.

EVERY SINGLE ONE of them should be forcibly removed from their owners and kindly euthanised asap.

That Facebook page is a scam page look at the phone number further down in one of the posts it's a foreign number. Facebook it's full of these pages for all different breeds of dogs and cats.

I think you're right. It's an American phone number, and the more I look at the page the more I think the people whose page it is don't have a single one of these dogs. It's all a con I reckon, and anyone wiring/sending them any money for a dog won't see their money again.

I do like most dogs but not aggressive dogs whatever the size (or yappy ones).

These huge aggressive breeds are weapons.

There’s a skinny crackhead looking man living in my neighbourhood who has two of these monsters and they take him for walks around the only kiddie park in the area. My husband, and I 100% agree with him, has told me to stop taking our 1 year old to that park or even walks in our own neighbourhood. This is bullshit that I now drive out of my neighbourhood to take my son out for a go on the swings rather than walk to the lovely kiddie park 3 mins from my door step. But I can’t even being to imagine what I would do if one of those beasts attacked my baby so I won’t risk it.

Drug dealers for example.

There are 4 of these abominations living within a quarter mile radius of my home. I regularly see them being taken for walks. Thankfully,they are all kept on a lead,and all are muzzled. Doesn't make me any less wary of them though.

He didn't own the dog. He didn't realise it was a xl bully until his daughter pointed it out snd begged him to send it back to its owner.

When the police reported it on Facebook they misreported it as being his. His family are distraught.

He begged the other person in the property to leave to save themselves. Hopefully the owner will be traced and charged. The poor guy was just supposed to be doing a friend a favour. Whether that was a forced favour given the area time will tell.

With the Rubery, Birmingham case, it is being reported that there was a very bad smell. Does this mean that it possibly happened a few days ago and the body was starting to decompose in the heat? And the missing dogs could have been on the loose all that time? Otherwise what would be the point of reporting the smell?

Is it not?
How comes that princess Anne was fined 20 years ago after one of her dogs attacked a child in a park?
Same dog turned the queen puddle into a pulp later on, I understand.

They are dangerous dogs.
The problem are in the end the people, not the dogs though.
If owners were automatically sentenced to a minimum of 6 months incarceration, not suspendable, along with crippling fines and automatic destruction of the animal, in case their dog maul or kills, then we would see real change.

Once people start reading that Jane and Joe, who never committed any previous crime, actually land in jail and have to remortgage their home to pay fines, because their dog attacked someone while perhaps they were not even there...
Well, then people will get smart, and will do all that is possible not to put themselves in the same situation.

Rather than getting away with it, as it is currently the case.

It was an English bull terrier it wasn't a Staffordshire bull terrier. I remember the dog and the news reports very very clearly it wasn't a Staffordshire at all.

This seems to be happening specifically in the U.K. My question is why? We have these dogs in Spain and similar breeds, in fact I don't think any breed of dog is banned here, but I don't hear anything on the news about them killing/attacking people, but mumsnet is filled with these threads. I'm not saying it's never happened here, I'm sure it has, but it's not commonplace. The is a lot of regulation here for certain breeds - they have to be registered at the town hall, muzzled etc. I don't know if that's the case in the U.K., but maybe that ensures responsible ownership at least.

Limited gene pool.
Most XL bullies in the UK can be traced to a dog called Kimbo whose offspring were more than usually likely to attack without warning or provocation. Many UK XL bullies have a high inbreeding coefficient and may have Kimbo or his offspring in their line several times.

This is horrifying, the whole community is being dominated by one awful person🤬
I want to say 'well I hope his dogs eat him and then are both shot dead' but if this happens there will be another similar man ready to take his place, rubbing his hands at the thought of being able to own & dominate the neighborhood 🤬🤬

This just goes to show-you can't fix stupid. I pity anyone who lives in her neighbourhood.

If owners were automatically sentenced to a minimum of 6 months incarceration, not suspendable, along with crippling fines and automatic destruction of the animal, in case their dog maul or kills, then we would see real change
@NorthSouthLondon
6 months incarceration for these types of people will be a six-month break with no bills to pay and then they have more kudos because they've 'done time'

Fine them? Good luck with that, they don't work, any money they do have will be cash earned on the black market, of which there will be no record and so it won't be possible to extract it from them.

Destroy the animal? Make a martyr out of the animal so that they love the breed even more you mean!

I agree that you can't fix stupid, but I also think that when something intense and traumatic happens with the dog the owner becomes even more strongly bonded to it. The 'stupidity' (lack of education) of the owner makes them even more liable to be completely consumed by these unconscious forces, but it's not just inherent stupidity it's also poverty and dysfunction etc (and no, I'm not condoning them)
I think there is a similar underlying unconscious dynamic operating with people who can't leave abusive and violent partners; the intensity of the trauma and abuse makes them bonded to their abuser.

Limited gene pool. Most XL bullies in the UK can be traced to a dog called Kimbo whose offspring were more than usually likely to attack without warning or provocation. Many UK XL bullies have a high inbreeding coefficient and may have Kimbo or his offspring in their line several times That would explain it then. I guess it's not the breed itself, but the breed in the U.K. from that one specific dog. Spanish people tend to go for those type of dogs and really little dogs and not much in between, do see a lot of them about. They all seem pretty well-behaved here, but you never see them unmuzzled in public.

I agree that it is an odd dynamic with some dog owners-but I don't buy the poverty angle as a cause/symptom. Buying and maintaining a dog of this size is an expensive business. The photos of the woman show she enjoyed her self-perceived status posing with that type of dog, and the fact that she states she was planning to get her breast implants replaced anyway shows she is not poverty stricken. She has multiple pets (god help them) and pets are an expensive lifestyle option. Nope, I think stupid and vain still tip the balance for me.

It IS the breed. They were bred to fight.

I'm on a circle of local FB groups that covers the area the escaped (now recaptured) dogs were in.

Most comments are hoping the dogs are OK ...

I saw that. Absolutely insane.