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Why are there suddenly loads of protests?

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Newsenmum · 03/08/2024 20:36

All these awful EDL protests- why are they suddenly happening? Whats kicking them all off? One in Bristol today is scary.

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circular1985 · 04/08/2024 00:00

@TransformerZ
Sorry for what you've experienced

Cornflakelover · 04/08/2024 00:05

Yellowbananasarebetterthangreen · 03/08/2024 23:41

The awfulness of what happened in Southport as the initial trigger. Beyond that - its summer, its hot, the evenings are light. "good time of year for a beer and a punch up" basically. Sad but true.
I was thinking today about what happened in various places around the UK in 2012 - that was also in the school summer hols. Ditto most other riotous years in the UK I should think?

I remember reading somewhere I think it was actually the MET police that said that most riots are in the summer months as the weather is generally nice so people don’t mind being outside in the sunshine protesting and well rioting .

like you most of the big riots and protests that I can think of have always been in the spring / summer months when it’s nice and warm

I don’t think I can remember a riot in the winter months like Nov - March to bloody cold and miserable

So what we really need is a shit loaf of rain tonight and the rest of the week that would probably stop them in their tracks

can’t take the cold weather 😂 bloody soft lads

TooBigForMyBoots · 04/08/2024 00:06

A combination of 14 years of divisive, incompetent Tory government, Russian troll farms, useful idiots,🙄 good weather and far right violent racists.

Alcohol, steroids and cocaine are contributing.

PrimitivePerson · 04/08/2024 00:09

I'm very much of the opinion that this is a hangover from the decisions and statements made by the last government, who spent most of the last 14 years demonising immigrants and asylum seekers.

It's rather unfortunate that the current government will get the blame, when they've shown a much more humane and balanced approach.

HungryLittleCrocodile · 04/08/2024 00:16

Fgfgfg · 03/08/2024 21:57

They've been looking for an excuse for a while. Did we see them out on the streets when three white women were murdered by a white man with a crossbow? No, because that didn't fit their narrative. Unfortunately it all kicked off before they found out that the Southport perpetrator wasn't a Muslim but still he's black and his parents weren't born here so that's almost as good a reason. A lot of those rioting probably don't even know that he was raised Christian.

Nailed it in one. Funny how no-one protested when that man killed his ex and her sister and mother. Not a dicky-bird.

This tragic event is just an excuse for racist thugs to do their knuckle dragging best. I am SOOOOOOOOOOO confused as to why they're doing it. It's utter madness. Even if the guy is a Muslim, so what? That is still no reason to riot this way. It's utterly horrific.

I know that the shocked and bereaved in Southport are really upset that these racist arseholes have jumped on the thuggery bandwagon, and are using their misery and sadness as a vessel to pour their foul racism and hatred into.

selfesteemfan · 04/08/2024 00:24

Far right rioters are using the Southport stabbings as an excuse to be hateful pieces of shit and show how ignorant they are from lapping up the highly publicised rhetoric of Farage, Murdochs media and the all their sycophants.

selfesteemfan · 04/08/2024 00:25

Where were they when Lucy Letby murdered all those innocent babies?

PerkyMintDeer · 04/08/2024 00:26

As a brown person (born here to parents who came here in the 70s to work for the NHS for 50 years until retirement) living in one of these cities that's been the site of terrifying violence today, I'm really scared. More for my elderly family who attend Friday prayers at a major mosque which I'm scared will be targetted, but also just generally for the future.

I spoke to a (white), really good friend tonight to ask if we should call off our plans in city tomorrow. She said "oh no, it will all have blown over. I was there today and we were just peacefully protesting about what's happened to our country, how the good people who speak out get silenced and jailed and now we've been unfairly portrayed in the media". I've seen the live footage of exactly what was going and at the time and location she was at (with her CHILD I might add) hundreds of people were doing the Nazi salute and policemen and women and animals were violently attacked, stabbed and glassed.

Honestly. I'm heartbroken. If that's a friend what hope do we have?

But the reality is a LOT of people are being brainwashed on social media now. Radicalistion is happening quite clearly and right wing terror is growing, mark my words. The internet has a lot to answer for.

Violence against women growing thanks to how easily available porn is and the Incel movement growing online.

Paedophilia thanks to how easy it is to obtain and share images of child abuse.

Conspiracy theorists that have lost all touch with reality thanks to fake news.

Anti social behaviour thanks to young people sharing bullying, theft, vandalism and so on on TikTok and glamourising it.

Xenophobia and Racism thanks to all the Britain First type posts people share and people like Farage, Robinson and Trump milking every second of it.

Isis used the internet to share images of the horrific terror they inflicted upon their hostages and victims and to scare the lot of us into changing how we lived for many years. That directly fed into the right wing agenda, as did those images that Farage used of Muslims (on a pilgrimage coincidentally) lining up to pour into the UK. Then in 2020 we all got locked up in our houses and had what for company? Facebook. Insta. TikTok. YouTube. All of which use AI to pretty much read our minds and suggest more and more content to us which only divides us more...as we end up in our own little echo chambers, with our own little supporters who share all the same views as us.

It's been reported that Southport suspect apparently spent years as a total recluse barely leaving the house. I'd bet a large sum of money that he spent a lot of that time with unrestricted internet access.

And pretty much every kid over the age of 2 these days is given a screen. So it continues.

You see posts on here all the time, "I miss the 90s. It seemed like a more innocent happy time."

Yes. Because we didn't have these devices with us 24/7 that, at best gave us FOMO or anxiety and at worst radicalised us, were used to brainwash us...or abuse us. More people only had about 5 channels of TV and weren't subjected to 24/7 terrifying news. "Fake News" was rare. You could go out for the day and focus on your own little world without knowing what was going on everywhere throughout the world. You could actually speak to people who for the most part weren't glued to a phone. You got your "community" from the living, breathing humans around you. Not virtual communities. People you could look in the eye, and learn to trust, over time because they earned that trust.

That Ali Al-Akhati coming over on a dinghy bollocks that started all this unrest has been proven to have come from a Russian twitter account. "Grey warfare". And as a result we have riots and violence on our streets without any need for an attack from Russia itself.

I realise the irony of me using social media to make this point, but still...people need to realise the weapon we're all holding in our hands and have the intelligence to realise how much it's harming and dividing us.

PickAChew · 04/08/2024 00:26

Rainbowsponge · 03/08/2024 23:25

Another riot happened only a couple of weeks ago, with burning cars/buses and smashed up streets, and there was absolute crickets about it on here. Fine - nobody is compelled to discuss anything they don’t want to. But you can’t then blub when people query why that very same incident received virtually no press or MN attention, along with police arriving 3 hours late to the incident and the PM looking the other way, when these equally brainless events have inspired a specialist task force set up by the prime minister and a very robust and vocal police response.

I would be VERY interested to see any direct replies to the above, not just crying about how mean I am or some shit like that?

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5122555-disorder-in-leeds

Disorder in Leeds | Mumsnet

Anyone watching the public disorder in Leeds? Bloody disgusting behaviour. Animals. AIBU to wish police had so many more resources to bring consequenc...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5122555-disorder-in-leeds

Rainbowsponge · 04/08/2024 00:29

The first reply.

Nowordsformethanks · 04/08/2024 00:30

Riots and Rioters.

HungryLittleCrocodile · 04/08/2024 00:35

Flowers @PerkyMintDeer Take care lovely. XX

HungryLittleCrocodile · 04/08/2024 00:36

selfesteemfan · 04/08/2024 00:25

Where were they when Lucy Letby murdered all those innocent babies?

Well quite!

PickAChew · 04/08/2024 00:36

Rainbowsponge · 04/08/2024 00:29

The first reply.

Most people are in bed, now. What do you expect?

Yellowbananasarebetterthangreen · 04/08/2024 00:39

@Cornflakelover exactly.
A thunderstorm. A week or so of rain and they'd pipe down, go home and watch the telly.
Also its worth bearing in mind many of those people will have loved watching the footie Euros recently. Thats finished....... bit bored, what next..........aha a summer of beer and punch up, racist shouting. Excellent.
I know its a simplistic way of looking at it but for many I do think it is that simple.

StaunchMomma · 04/08/2024 00:41

Farage. Tommy Robinson style propaganda. Social media being rife with misinformation. The emboldened, extreme right aping the violent tendencies of their US counterparts. The sting of the election loss and a left wing government.

They've been looking for an excuse to blow.

Skodacool · 04/08/2024 00:48

Fgfgfg · 03/08/2024 21:57

They've been looking for an excuse for a while. Did we see them out on the streets when three white women were murdered by a white man with a crossbow? No, because that didn't fit their narrative. Unfortunately it all kicked off before they found out that the Southport perpetrator wasn't a Muslim but still he's black and his parents weren't born here so that's almost as good a reason. A lot of those rioting probably don't even know that he was raised Christian.

You are are so right with that comment.

VerySadCase · 04/08/2024 01:01

Lilysgoneshopping · 03/08/2024 22:23

Coming from a "Christian family" doesn't mean he is a Christian. Wait for the trial to reveal the why's and the wherfores

God, how desperate are some people to keep plugging a particular narrative?!

VerySadCase · 04/08/2024 01:03

EasternStandard · 03/08/2024 22:26

Sadly the horrifically sad attack in Southport was the trigger but this is likely to run and be less about that

It was an excuse rather than a trigger.

samarrange · 04/08/2024 01:10

Rainbowsponge · 03/08/2024 23:25

Another riot happened only a couple of weeks ago, with burning cars/buses and smashed up streets, and there was absolute crickets about it on here. Fine - nobody is compelled to discuss anything they don’t want to. But you can’t then blub when people query why that very same incident received virtually no press or MN attention, along with police arriving 3 hours late to the incident and the PM looking the other way, when these equally brainless events have inspired a specialist task force set up by the prime minister and a very robust and vocal police response.

I would be VERY interested to see any direct replies to the above, not just crying about how mean I am or some shit like that?

there was absolute crickets about it on here

Well, apart from this 29-page thread where almost everybody condemned the rioters.
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5122555-disorder-in-leeds

Disorder in Leeds | Mumsnet

Anyone watching the public disorder in Leeds? Bloody disgusting behaviour. Animals. AIBU to wish police had so many more resources to bring consequenc...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5122555-disorder-in-leeds

fretaway · 04/08/2024 01:11

TransformerZ · 03/08/2024 23:17

I'm a Sikh, Indian woman.
A white old English man in his 70's attacked me after his wife came into my garden to sing "go back home" etc to me. Lived here for over 10 years, they've always given me dirty looks which I guessed was due to me not being white. Don't care about that, wouldn't have 2 words to say to people like them anyway. However, I'm sure these riots emboldened them to attack me. They are lucky I'm not going to hit old people, I just blocked the attack and reported to the police. I'm sure these riots and heatwave made these two disgusting people show how much venom they had against me.

I’m so sorry you had to experience that disgusting behaviour. The police should hopefully be in touch with you soon but if not make sure you follow it up and get them barred from your garden. Hope you are ok.
You are right though, my fear is the riots will make people emboldened to be racist. We can’t let that happen.

HearTheMessenger · 04/08/2024 01:33

Fascism thrives in poverty and inequality.

Jellybeanz456 · 04/08/2024 02:11

The sun, the drink (so many videos of men with cans off beer in their hands) and then their reason what happened in southport to them children.
Thugs the lot off them they don't care about what happened to them beautiful children just see it as an excuse to kick off.

Lwrenn · 04/08/2024 02:24

They've burnt down a fucking library in Liverpool.
A community hub.
These monsters do not care about children and it is an insult to the memories of those little girls to pretend they are at all the catalyst for these brutal attacks.

HappydaysArehere · 04/08/2024 02:54

Farage is using this to stir up more trouble. He is definitely Trump number two. He is a professional agitator and not a politician. He dishes out aggression but where are the solutions?In fact where has he been since he was elected as MP for Clacton.?
Has he been in The Commons? He has been to visit Trump where no doubt he wishes to sup from the mass adulation that he is enjoying from his followers. What we are seeing are not protesters they are criminals and fascists. They are destroying businesses and wholesale thefts are taking place.