Missing Woman Nicola Bulley 4

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www.lep.co.uk/news/crime/nicola-bulley-day-13-latest-updates-as-search-for-missing-mum-continues-4017066

Lancashire Evening Post has just posted this update.

Sadly I suspect that this is going to play out like Sarah Everard, the police worked out what happened very early on but kept it quiet as they needed to find her body as proof without spooking the perpetrator.

"I know google maps isn't up to date or anything."

Think Google might disagree 🤣

In regards to the lady who tied the dog up, some people just don't think do they. Maybe her mind was elsewhere with this appointment she had, we don't know what kind of appointment it is, it may have been important and she was preoccupied with her thoughts. I agree it does seem strange to find a loose dog and a phone and just not think anymore of it, but we're all different.

i wonder if they’ve found her, maybe that’s why he’s gone there. doesn’t look that way from the pics right enough.

I find loose dogs all the bloody time round here.

And if I was trying to pick up a dog poo from near the edge of the water, for instance, I would definitely put my phone down to do it.

No, it looks like Peter is explaining to her partner.

A loose dog with a lead/harness and phone near to it. You expect the person near by so you try calling them. You contact ppl on the mobile and tell them to come collect the dog etc. You don't wait nearly a hour then ring a school.

A key takeaway for me yesterday was that PF said they searched a stretch of water upstream that had been 'overlooked' by the police divers. This supports the possibility that the police investigation is too focused on the theory that Nicola entered the water close to the bench and other possible scenarios aren't being investigated thoroughly enough.

So you can't support what you wrote? As I said, you made it up.

It is striking that the police made so many assumptions so publicly and didn’t cordon off the scene or instruct forensics quickly.

The basic assumption she fell in to the river, so early into the investigation is really unusual
in itself. They are taught never to rule anything out without concrete evidence.

What if the presence of a river is a red herring. There is no real reason or motive to assume a grown adult would ‘fall in’ to the water which was very shallow - in the middle of January during a works team meeting. With no markings or indication that she was anywhere near it.

Re searching the non-vacant caravans, afaik the police cannot just enter someone’s home to search it, without their permission or a warrant. To obtain a warrant the police need to demonstrate that they have a specific reason to search that property.

But if she was picking up dog poo and stumbled surely the bag would be somewhere close by and undergrowth trodden down and slip marks.

Just looking at the accounts - it's late filing - my DP has done the same in the past.

The only 'odd' thing is that he's had a number of companies over the years and they've been dissolved due to late filing. There is no evidence of massive debts on any of the accounts filed.

It is a bit of a niche job!

I agree. It’s not right. If you care enough to tie up the dog, and pick up the phone. The witness could have simply called the first number of there and told them what she had found and then leave.

In regards to searching caravans and houses- has anyone stopped to think that the police don't have the power just to enter someones property without "real" reason, not just to cover all bases.

They can't just insist to search someone's home without some kind of evidence/reason to believe she's in there. Imagine if the police were given powers just to enter homes on a whim, what would you all say then because it wouldn't just be used in scenarios like this- the criticism would be off the scale.

Arm chair detectives should go and apply for the police and see if they can actually do the job they seem to think would be an easy solve.

There is no insolvency or liquidation.

Forgot to add she'd have tied the dog up so it couldn't follow her at least, even if she didn't care if it ended up run over, etc (doubtful), if she was leaving of her own violation?

A massive stretch of the imagination by all accounts to think she committed pseuicide and did leave of her own volition.

Much more logical to persue a line of enquiry that she was abducted, and probably murdered by now, alongside the river theory until it became apparent there was little evidence of that and they did start searching the river on the 1st day. Expert says she wouldn't have moved far.

It's not like this doesn't happen. Probably more often than a woman staging a John Darwin disappearance and leaving 2 little girls behind.

"The witness could have simply called the first number of there and told them what she had found and then leave."

How? You do know phones have a lock function?

I’m not sure why he’d do that,to be honest. He can meet with Faulding in private, this way is full media glare and she’s clearly not at that spot. I’m guessing he is just desperate.

I’m as guilty as the next person, but this feels a bit too “murder mystery”/true crime podcast

Unfortunately I think she is in the water somewhere

I agree. Something about this doesn’t add up.

"I’m not sure why he’d do that,to be honest. He can meet with Faulding in private, this way is full media glare"

You've just answered why he'd do that! They want the media to stay focused on Nicola, obviously

A warrant can be issued by the court , and would be granted on sufficiency, but the missing link is that they have not opened a criminal investigation.

Given all the factors in this case, the resistance to do so looks odd, I hope it’s hidden intelligence and not incompetence, because this case is beginning to look much more like a criminal investigation to me.

Yeah. This is my feeling too.