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Missing Woman Nicola Bulley 4

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ofwarren · 08/02/2023 10:28

www.lep.co.uk/news/crime/nicola-bulley-day-13-latest-updates-as-search-for-missing-mum-continues-4017066

Lancashire Evening Post has just posted this update.

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MargaritMargo · 08/02/2023 20:14

Nicknacky · 08/02/2023 20:10

That is not how a missing person enquiry is dealt with. Honest to god, posters don’t have a clue what they are talking about.

No that’s not how a missing person might be dealt with but the PP is clearly suggesting that it shouldn’t have been treated as a missing person, that it should have been treated as a potential criminal investigation from the start.

Perhaps it doesn’t meet the criteria as being treated as suspicious by the police but it’s clear that a lot of people think it should have been

Nicknacky · 08/02/2023 20:14

pigsinoodies · 08/02/2023 20:13

You must be getting fed up with this. Be calm. x

I’m trying, god I’m trying! I sit on my hands then give in.

puppacup · 08/02/2023 20:14

the police should have elevated the case

what does this mean?

SpecialOPs · 08/02/2023 20:15

ofwarren · 08/02/2023 20:00

Just saw Jeremy Kyle on Talk TV say that Peter Faulding refused to go on tonight, even though he's been on the past 2 nights.
I wonder what made him stop his search abruptly?
Kyle reckons it's a flounce

Just listened to a Podcast that he was a part of this afternoon. The presenter had to give a long introduction about the disgusting flack Peter has got and how he's worked with him for years and how many other less publicised searches that Peter has been involved with at no cost.

Peter said he was quite emotional after talking to Nicola's partner, he stated the family had asked him to help, and he was baffled at the case. He also had not been requested to look any further down the river than he had. He sounded knackered.

Probably doesn't want to open himself to more trolls and stupid comments than he has to after doing a simple act of kindness.

Goldpaw · 08/02/2023 20:16

Nicknacky · 08/02/2023 20:10

That is not how a missing person enquiry is dealt with. Honest to god, posters don’t have a clue what they are talking about.

I think the point is the belief by the police that it is a missing person case may be incorrect, and that assuming it to be one was a mistake on their part.

To not at least wonder if something had happened to her involving a third party seems a bit careless on their part.

ofwarren · 08/02/2023 20:16

SpecialOPs · 08/02/2023 20:15

Just listened to a Podcast that he was a part of this afternoon. The presenter had to give a long introduction about the disgusting flack Peter has got and how he's worked with him for years and how many other less publicised searches that Peter has been involved with at no cost.

Peter said he was quite emotional after talking to Nicola's partner, he stated the family had asked him to help, and he was baffled at the case. He also had not been requested to look any further down the river than he had. He sounded knackered.

Probably doesn't want to open himself to more trolls and stupid comments than he has to after doing a simple act of kindness.

I listened to that too
He did as you say, sound knackered

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puppacup · 08/02/2023 20:16

Perhaps it doesn’t meet the criteria as being treated as suspicious by the police but it’s clear that a lot of people think it should have been

But that's because she hasn't been found so people are saying that with hindsight.

Nicknacky · 08/02/2023 20:18

MargaritMargo · 08/02/2023 20:14

No that’s not how a missing person might be dealt with but the PP is clearly suggesting that it shouldn’t have been treated as a missing person, that it should have been treated as a potential criminal investigation from the start.

Perhaps it doesn’t meet the criteria as being treated as suspicious by the police but it’s clear that a lot of people think it should have been

It is a missing person enquiry until evidence indicates it is a criminal investigation, don’t be fooled into thinking a missing person enquiry gets less resourcing or investigation than a criminal enquiry.

It has 40 detectives on it which is more than some murder enquiries have.

Goldpaw · 08/02/2023 20:18

puppacup · 08/02/2023 20:16

Perhaps it doesn’t meet the criteria as being treated as suspicious by the police but it’s clear that a lot of people think it should have been

But that's because she hasn't been found so people are saying that with hindsight.

Not by the police who are still treating it as a missing person case and not a potential crime by a third party.

SueG60 · 08/02/2023 20:18

Walkinmeshoes · 08/02/2023 20:14

Does nobody read comments on here ?
Agreed but the area where she’s supposedly fell in is shallow and not much current. I could understand it if she’d fell further down where it flows rapidly.
It's been mentioned that there is a 15 ft deep hole (approx 40 ft long) in the middle of the river directly opposite the bench 🙄

If she’d fell in a hole, then wouldn’t the body still be there as by definition a hole is enclosed. Their equipment would have then picked it up.

Im saying all of those things in conjunction happening is very low probability, not each one on its own

puppacup · 08/02/2023 20:19

I think the point is the belief by the police that it is a missing person case may be incorrect, and that assuming it to be one was a mistake on their part.

But if someone is missing without initial evidence of foul play then it wouldn't be anything other than a missing person case.

pigsinoodies · 08/02/2023 20:19

Bluebellwood129 · 08/02/2023 20:13

Yes they are. Mr Expert is a private contractor who carries out the same task that the North West Police team do (less some of their duties I understand) over a smaller area for a number of police forces. His employees are no more skilled at wading up rivers than the police are and certainly have less knowledge of the particular conditions of the Wyre and of Morecambe Bay.
The area the North West Police unit cover is massive and particularly wet.

Everyone seems to be in agreement that if Nicola had entered the water in the area of the water, she would still be around that location at the time the initial search was conducted by this team with more knowledge of the local area, yet she wasn't found by them. So what can we conclude from that?

I was answering the claim that the private company are more experienced than the police unit, because they have 'Specialist' in their company name and errm, they do some of the same work that the police unit does, although in a smaller and completely different area with different sea and river conditions.

Mirabai · 08/02/2023 20:19

Some comments from PF in his latest interview:

  • The area below the bank has lots of rocks at the edge so it is possible to get a footing (perhaps 3 foot deep on the day)
  • Some reeds past the weir where a body could get lodged and can't pick up on sonar but not many and confident she's not there
  • River slightly higher on the day (a foot higher) so a remote possibility that a body could go over the weir but threw a large stick at the corner and watched it for 20 minutes and the stick didn't move
  • Down from the weir where it gets tidal their boat actually grounded so they had to stop and lift the dinghy out
Nicknacky · 08/02/2023 20:20

Goldpaw · 08/02/2023 20:18

Not by the police who are still treating it as a missing person case and not a potential crime by a third party.

The police have been clear that all lines of enquiry are being investigated. It’s mumsnetters who are convinced they aren’t.

melonraspberry · 08/02/2023 20:20

I also worry the police are making assumptions if there were MH issues or stress in the background . That could all be going on and she could still be abducted .

melonraspberry · 08/02/2023 20:21

@Nicknacky but they aren’t searching buildings nearby? So that’s not covering all lines of enquiry

Plitvice · 08/02/2023 20:21

Activelyannoyed · 08/02/2023 20:13

no it wasn’t. At Least take the 30 second effort to Google the witness statement. Ffs

It does not say that the phone was placed on the bench by Nicola. My comprehension skills are pretty sound - how are yours?

puppacup · 08/02/2023 20:21

Not by the police who are still treating it as a missing person case and not a potential crime by a third party.

We don't know what the police are doing just what they are telling us what they are doing. It might not be the same thing.

Blessedwithsunshine · 08/02/2023 20:21

Nicknacky · 08/02/2023 20:14

Elevated it to what? You genuinely don’t know what you are talking about and I’m embarrassed to be reading your posts. The fact she has not be found does not change it to a criminal investigation.

Of course it should be a criminal investigation!

We have no body, no evidence of a fall. We have a phone on the ground, a loose dog and a harness and lead that is unexplained. We have 45 minutes unaccounted for. We have a professional woman that was of sound mind according to everyone around her on a teams meeting as she disappeared!
The police state foul play has been ruled out without mentioning the lack of CCTV on a main exit.

There are more questions than answers, and quite frankly it’s appalling that we haven’t even had an update from the police this evening.

Nicknacky · 08/02/2023 20:21

melonraspberry · 08/02/2023 20:21

@Nicknacky but they aren’t searching buildings nearby? So that’s not covering all lines of enquiry

The super did say in her briefing that nearby buildings had been searched.

Mirabai · 08/02/2023 20:22

pigsinoodies · 08/02/2023 20:19

I was answering the claim that the private company are more experienced than the police unit, because they have 'Specialist' in their company name and errm, they do some of the same work that the police unit does, although in a smaller and completely different area with different sea and river conditions.

They didn’t say they were more experienced than the police unit - he said the police divers were very good, experienced and thorough. He simply said his sonar equipment was more powerful.

Why are you still attacking this man?

Bluebellwood129 · 08/02/2023 20:23

@Nicknacky Let's be honest, Sally Riley hasn't been 'clear' about very much, particularly the facts that have been shared with the public.

Towntroubadour · 08/02/2023 20:23

This is such a sad story. And you worry that the poor family will have no closure.

I have always wondered, if you did want to disappear from your own life and you had a secret bank account with a different bank that you and your partner didn’t use, would the police be able to find out? Would they speak to all banks? Or just the one they knew you and your partner used?

Activelyannoyed · 08/02/2023 20:23

ofwarren · 08/02/2023 20:16

I listened to that too
He did as you say, sound knackered

It’s awful. I’ve seen it across all media boards, even on here. Utter wankers trolling this man. Accusing him of working for free to sell books, telling him to stay in lane, saying his commentary was unwelcome. Saying he was arrogant, lacking In knowledge.

just total no marks, losers, on the attack, to someone who is expert and giving their time and expertise for free. I can’t blame him for pulling his soldiers out and going home.

Goldpaw · 08/02/2023 20:24

Nicknacky · 08/02/2023 20:21

The super did say in her briefing that nearby buildings had been searched.

She also said they were writing to the owners of the cars that passed on Garstang Lane.

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