Missing Woman Nicola Bulley 3

[ofwarren]

I couldn't see another post so thought I'd create one.

There is a police press conference this afternoon. I can't see a time for this but it's sounding like a routine one.

Why would you do that? Tie up a dog and leave. It seems incredibly negligent to me. I am not blaming the woman per se, but it seems odd and not what most people do.

You have a phone on the ground - in use. A distressed dog and a harness on the side. I can’t think why at that point the alarm wasn’t raised? Given just those points I would always consider an abduction. The river being there is a moot point.

There is clearly a reason the police don’t think there has been “foul play”.

Oh, well, as long as her body turns up eventually, that's all good and everyone should stop talking about it, eh?

I understand they have ruled out foul play due to CCTV footage - but not all of the cctv is working, and it’s a busy area. How can they possibly rule out foul play? That is public appeasement, because they can’t possibly know that.

There must be other reasons they aren’t sharing. They aren’t stupid. They know the gaps in the cctv. If there was room for doubt they’d still be saying they weren’t ruling anything out. Surely.

"She called her DIL sometime later who recognised the description of the dog and rang Nicola's partner."

This is very odd!!
What are the chances of this?
Also if I found a phone still connected and a dog harness plus dog ...
You would take both and try and locate the owner???
You don't just leave it go to an appointment and then "oh I found a phone etc" how long after???

This does not add up.

They can't rule out foul play because they don't have complete CCTV footage. They can only follow this as a working hypothesis. Anything more would be complete stupidity.

I don’t know what phone she had but on my Samsung phone there is Samsung health app and it counts your steps and tracks your exact location where you walked. Maybe they could see from a similar app she may had on the phone where exactly she walked and stopped…

The key word is “if” , right. What if she didn’t drown. That’s why there is so much attention. What if someone has harmed her. What if there is something criminal here.

there is nothing we know of that says she drowned. If the police are sure no criminal activity then why not release if they have further evidence. Put a stop to the speculation. Why not tell her family at least, who also think no evidence.

Please remember that the police can make serious errors. It happened in the case I have experience with.

Why were both the phone and the lead and harness get to be on the floor then? It makes me think she got up in a hurry.

theleavesfall I totally agree with you. Something doesn't add up.

I agree.

Well yeah I know but I’m just wondering if that’s more or less likely than them just having info that they aren’t revealing.

What could that reason be though?

I just keep thinking about her daughters. It’s agonising. The majority of us are parents and can well imagine the agony our children would be going through if we didn’t come home - hell, you don’t even need to be a parent to empathise with that - but knowing first hand just how upset children can be without their parent, particularly their mummy…it’s unbearable. I keep hoping for some resolution to this because not knowing must be absolute torture.

I’m probably going to be slated for this but it is very unusual for the woman who found the phone and dog to tie the dog up, leave the phone and later call her DIL.
I’m not sure how the DIL would recognise the dog with certainty (unless Willow is the only dog in the village of that type).
Why then the DIL rang the school is another odd thing unless she didn’t actually know it was Nicola’s dog.. but then why ring the school and not the vet..
And then the school in turn rings the boyfriend..
This is what is odd, though of course I have no way to know any of this did not happen:
Did the school not think to ring Nicola herself?
Why ring her boyfriend first?
Most people who find a dog running loose would check it’s collar to see if there are details on the collar eg phone number or address.
Most dog owners will put a phone number on the collar for that reason.
Absent any phone number or details on the collar most people would then call the vet to see if the dog can be traced to an owner- and that can be done while walking to your appointment.
I know that’s what I would do at any rate.
I wonder if any of the account given in the media as above has been checked.
If there was foul play - it doesn’t have to be a man who does it..

Well I don’t know I’m not in the police.

maybe they actually do have a suspect and are throwing them off the scent with the foul play stuff. Maybe she has a history of MH difficulties and they have reason to believe this is self inflicted in some way. I really don’t know.

It is obviously one of the weaker Police forces which doesn't inspire confidence. They aren't going to pull a rabbit out of a hat so if they are keeping back information (which I don't think they are) then it hasn't really produced a positive result.

Not if you are trying to wind down an investigation.

'Did the school not think to ring Nicola herself?
Why ring her boyfriend first?'

How could they ring her when her phone was on the bench which they were told?

@AmillionReasons
Does the phone have to be with someone for it to ring or to be rung?
I’m not saying why did the school not SPEAK to her, but why did they not RING her. Or if they did, what time was that, was there a response or not etc.

I'd read a retired / ex police commissioner has concerns that this smaller and potentially not very experienced force ought to have called in the Met or other force. What does he have to gain from saying something like that?

I noticed in the conference update yesterday when the police officer was taking questions a reporter asked about an exit camera. She awkwardly said she didn't want to talk about it. It makes me think that there is things going on behind the scenes that need to stay that way relating to another theory, and not possible jeopardise the whole investigation by becoming public knowledge.

possibly*