Missing Woman Nicola Bulley 3

[ofwarren]

I couldn't see another post so thought I'd create one.

There is a police press conference this afternoon. I can't see a time for this but it's sounding like a routine one.

@ofwarren

No. They've made clear they do not have any working hypothesis around a third party, certainly not one that would be dangerous.

They don't yet know, factually, what has happened. This is normal. I mentioned the sad case I had some involvement with. It took 7 weeks. They didn't 'know' - but they had a strong basis for assuming a particular situation, while investigating others, which turned out in time, to be the case.

I agree. Sounds like the police were getting ready to step things down.

Nonsense. A MN thread will have no role to play in 'finding her'.

You can indeed post; as I can I, in disagreement.

As human beings, we try to make sense of the world every day! These terrible circumstances are no different.

Also it seems the police ‘experts’ and Mr Faulding ‘expert’ are in disagreement.

This is just bizarre. Like there’s some effort to stop people talking about this woman’s disappearance. So that’s it? No one knows where she is and the police want everyone to stop talking about her?

It's not bizarre that they want people to stop speculating & posting theories on SM.

Well no. They used thermal imaging from the helicopter that first day, which would see a body within 24 hours of it drowning. They have been using sonar all along and now have even higher tech sonars and they covered 13 miles yesterday in their first day.

a body sinks when it first drowns, the helicopter on the first day would have seen her.

and it’s more than she’s not found immediately. This is the 13th day and rhe specialist is absolutely right.

silly Ill informed comments just attacking the searchers don’t really cover anyone in glory.

How on earth do you know?
You are making very grand sweeping assumptions that are not based on facts.

"I saw a post about their company P & N ENGINEERING LTD but when you google it their names show as:"

"Miss Nicola Jane Purdy"

This is exactly the types of posts I'm criticising

"There's no 'crazed nutter'.

I recognise the police in the UK have made mistakes in the past. But they are in most instances highly trained experts. They cannot yet fully resolve what's happened to Nicola. But they can say there isn't a 'crazed nutter' and they have."

@EarringsandLipstick stop speaking like you're the authority. Local women are, rightly, concerned. You can't say anything with such certainty.

We're not so far away from the place where there was "no crazed nutter" in the Lindsay Birbeck disappearance. Except there was, wasn't there? A fucking nutter waiting in the trees at 4pm on a popular dog walking route. 12 days until they found her. She hadn't gone missing. She'd been killed in broad daylight and taken away from the scene in a wheelie bin.

Someone on the TV yesterday said that the nation was gripped, it was like they were talking about the Happy Valley finale, this thread is not dissimilar to the Happy Valley threads

I agree with you on this and have reported a few posts this morning.

@Activelyannoyed I think all of the points you've made, the number of other experts who appear to disagree with the police, and the mistakes they've made to date are what have put doubt in people's minds.

If she was taken somehow it would be strange that the dog didn't follow - she was found off lead near the phone area. Unless she's not usually off lead & doesn't have recall, I mean if that was the case she would probably just meander about.
I think it's more likely that dog might have stayed with owner or at lease tried to.

I live very close to where Sarah Everard was taken & was often walking around during lockdown. I completely understand the fear, just not the need for drama.

It’s weird that the conversation is around the right to have one at all.

Nicola hasn’t been found, at the moment there are no theories because no one knows where she is. Of course people will want to talj about it, it’s very upsetting.

There is also hope she may be found, and we can’t discount the small ray of hope completely.

@ofwarren that's the bits I find disturbing.

To be honest, I think you’re being deliberately obtuse there. The poster never said the mumsnet thread was going to help find her. That’s clear to everyone. As much as everyone knows, you’ve made it very clear, you don’t wish it discussed but can’t stop yourself reading it, you lose any minor credibility when you post a quote and accuse the person of saying something totally different.

what they said it was keeping the focus on and top of mind , to help find her, and I agree with this, I believe the only reason sgi are in there, and so many detectives now working it, is due to the public focus.

if it wasn’t for the publics focus, I do not believe there would be 40 detectives on this, multiple divers and searchers, and specialist groups brought in.

so the poster has a very very valid point.

They want people to stop posting criticism of them as they are coming under fire from the public and other experts.

I don't see how speculation is going to change anything.

The facts are she is very unlikely to be alive now and all everyone wants is closure for her family.

@puppacup well the threads then were the same.

Women aren't being "dramatic" by being concerned for their safety. 2 women have been chased on the canals here in recent weeks. The 2 nearest cities (Lancaster and Preston) have the highest number of sexual assaults reported in their history.

And you've got the nerve to come along with your sexist tropes and call us fucking "dramatic" because you've got a dog so you know best

"If she was taken somehow it would be strange that the dog didn't follow - she was found off lead near the phone area."

There's a gate she can't get through. It's been discussed here many times. She was found running between the bench and the gate.

All I know is, when it was a close relative of mine that went missing under some strange circumstances I was grateful that she was being kept in the public consciousness.

Even grateful for the armchair detectives.

Obviously I can’t speak for this or any other family with missing loved ones. Only my own, which didn’t receive this level of national coverage but caused a huge stir locally.

Sounds stupid, and in the end it was a horrifically mundane way to die, but while all these theories were going round and people were looking it felt like it was more likely for an answer to be found. Any answer was welcome at that point. And it was a comfort that people at least cared.

As long as it doesn’t involve breaking the law/ interfering in what may be a crime scene, or harassing the family then I wouldn’t ever attempt to get people to stop talking about someone who is missing.

If you don’t like it, you don’t have to read it. I personally find the ploppers who keep coming on to say how offended they are people are that people are talking about it (yet still keep clicking on threads with the missing person name on) the most useless of all. If it’s so beneath you all, why are you even thinking about this case and wasting your day trying to police what people are saying about it? Just do what you’re may others to do, stop thinking/talking about it and move on with your day.

I second this, if it were not for the huge media coverage and interest in this case the police would have pulled out days ago, filed her away under missing persons and moved on.

I don’t agree entirely that all hope is lost. We have no evidence to suggest she is not alive, and we should keep the focus on looking for her.

And you've got the nerve to come along with your sexist tropes and call us fucking "dramatic" because you've got a dog so you know best

I think you've confused me with someone else?

The drama I'm talking about is not about being scared for personal safety, it's the torments of treating it as tv doc.

Women should always be concerned re personal safety. That was true before Sarah.

ignore torments!