Missing Woman Nicola Bulley 3

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There is a police press conference this afternoon. I can't see a time for this but it's sounding like a routine one.

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"I just don't understand why they aren't all over rowanwater with it being the last sighting of her"

Probably because the dog was back on the other side of the kissing gate along with her belongings. That sighting means she was still alive at 0910 but they think she continued her usual route, crossing back over the field and through the gate.

I have personally never believed she ‘fell’ in the water. She won’t have been anywhere near it in January. This was never truly plausible, despite being the obvious place to look for her. The police need to extend door to door and house checks in the whole area, the surrounding countryside and particularly the caravan area. Something important has been missed.

Yeah good point
Baffling

I also agree not all hope is lost, I still can't help feeling she has taken herself off.

It seems they are content she returned to where the dog and phone were found, rather than the dog and phone getting there by other means. Have they focused on her last sighted spot too?

I’m very sorry about what happened to your friend.

sadly the technology that was available in the 70s was not what it is today , so very different scenarios. In addition much depends on where they went in. But the critical part is the technology. An example being thermal Imaging from Helicopters wasn’t commonly used by police till the mid 90s.

That doesn’t really allow for cold water shock or undercurrent though. A swimming pool is very different from a tidal river.

I wild swim and most fresh water is sub five degrees at the moment where I live. I’d be very cautious getting into a tidal river and wouldn’t do it alone, even in a planned and controlled way with a lot of cold water tolerance.

When you plunge into water of that temperature, you automatically take a deep intake of breath. It’s involuntary and you get a lungful of water: that’s why wild swimmers get in slowly and control their breathing, so that when the shock happens they’re not submerged.

You also get ‘swim failure’ fairly quickly, muscles just won’t coordinate due to cold as blood is diverted to the core. This makes both staying afloat and pulling oneself out impossible. That might take well under five minutes without having built up cold water tolerance.

Exactly this. My golden would probably lick someone..
Holding off on the big lonely dog walks until I've got something to carry with me.

I'm not sure it was all very tragic his mum was a dance teacher in Fulwood where I was from so it always stuck in my mind it was St Michael's where he died and motobike was found in the river. He was young ,stupid and maybe drunk and playing around on that road when he skidded and came off into the river , where exactly I wouldn't know. The river is banked up when it passes through Scorton so that would doubt increase the river flow. Back in the 70s those flood defences weren't there and it used to regulatory flood into Gubberford Lane

He did say if there was anything in the water they would see it from sticks to stones.

@FatGirlSwim I agree with you. It could have happened, I just don't understand if it did why they haven't found her.

Does anybody know how wide is the river at that point? Is there a possibility that she was somehow maneuvered across to the other side and taken that way?Have the cameras near the exits on the other side been checked ?

I think people, mostly women, are very invested in this case because it could be them. This literally could be me. I have one of those dogs, I take it for walks in the countryside after I have dropped my DC off at school. I have a similar life to her. I talk on the phone when I am walking.

I think women want to be reassured that we are safe going about our daily business and that it has not come to the point that we cannot go out in broad daylight without a buddy. Until she is found, I think a lot of women are uneasy about their safety. I know I am.

Just a thought, as the keys to the car haven't been found I would assume in her pocket. Is there anyway to get a signal response from her car key?

What a nasty comment.
This poster was sharing her own personal experience of losing a friend in similar circumstances and explaining what the family were told by the Police and the reasons as to why the body couldn't always be detected quickly, and all she gets from you is sarcasm.

That's a good point to make about the car keys actually. Some one commented on the twitter that some keys were connected to the dogs collar which I found really odd if that was true.

I cant read all the comments that have been deleted but crazy or not it is human nature to speculate when things like this happen and people want to discuss it.

Exactly this.

Don't normally follow these cases so thought I would check out twitter where they have all but brought the rope for the hanging it would appear.

I walk my dogs a lot in isolated areas, what strikes me is the phone was found on the ground, someone picked it up and put it on the bench, and I assumed carried on walking?

This in itself is highly unusual. Why wouldn’t anyone look around at that point? Especially given there was a dog harness there as well. Next to the water my first reaction would be to call out, especially as the phone was still logged on to a teams meeting at the time.

I have found mittens etc in my routes and left them when they can be found on a branch or fence, but I would never walk on if a dog harness and phone were left together. I find that odd.

When my aunt disappeared, it was months before she was traced and nobody actually knew whether she was alive or dead for months, including her young children. I don't know why she was not prioritized but there was nobody to hold the Police to account.
The point was made on another thread that the family of a missing person attracting so much attention is somehow more advantaged than the ones who do not who are often non-white, unattractive, socially marginalized.
It is a strange way of looking at it, of course, but I would take the publicity and the occasional trolling hand in hand if it improved their chances.

And if I couldn’t find the owner at that moment I would probably call the police at that point. Why didn’t they notice the dog? Something is wrong with more than one element of this case.

@Blessedwithsunshine she did notice the dog and tied it to the bench, put the phone on the bench and then left for an appointment. She called her DIL sometime later who recognised the description of the dog and rang Nicola's partner.

In the meantime more people came across the dog and that's where the reporting gets a bit murky.

I don’t mean to sound callous and I totally understand the family’s need to continue the search but it’s been 12 days now. If she did drown, her body will turn up eventually. She’s not a child and I’m surprised by the massive media attention this is getting.