Missing Woman Nicola Bulley 3

[ofwarren]

I couldn't see another post so thought I'd create one.

There is a police press conference this afternoon. I can't see a time for this but it's sounding like a routine one.

The friend Tilly Ann posted on Facebook and on the missing group thar it's definitely Rowanwater with the missing cctv.
She was last identified by another dog walker at the back on Rowanwater on the top field.
There is gate access to the caravan park, the code known to residents on there.
There is a lake on Rowanwater thar hasn't been dived and only the unoccupied caravans have been searched according to the police.

I think that older posters are probably the ones finding discussion most distasteful as technology has not been integrated into their lives (and children's lives in the same way)

I think there will be plenty of tech savvy posters who find some of the comments on this thread distasteful. Including yours.

@ofwarren Also, his opinion that the initial search of the water where it appears Nicola would have entered would only need to have been very small - 3-4 m - to find her, so even if the water was murky, it should have been possible.

Its on Sky. I found via the search and watched it last night.

I think Now also has it at the moment if you don't have sky

Is it worth bearing in mind that one person who has been quite vocal and visible in the last few days has had a book published within the last week or so?

That of course doesn't mean their advice, expertise or insight is compromised, but it might lead to speculation about the reason for at least some of their comments.

Sorry for the typos, I'm just walking back from taking the kids to school

I have a water dog, absolutely hates getting wet and water, even though most dogs of its breed have to be pulled away from jumping in.

all dogs have different temperaments

His team have apparently been involved in quite a few high profile cases though. Could it not just be pure coincidence that Nicola's disappearance and the book launch happened to occur at around the same time?

For those puzzled by Willows harness being off. I remove my dogs harnesses when they are likely to go into water and many others do too. A wet harness is heavy, uncomfortable and, with sand, silt or debris, would irritate their skin. Harnesses take ages to dry. However, they wear collar and tag at all times.

Wow. He said that the river isn’t tidal there? I thought it was a tidal river and couldn’t really understand why everyone was speculating. He clearly knows his stuff. He deals with this a lot. I would have more confidence in him than the police tbh. Unless they are working on building a case behind the scenes which is altogether possible. My thoughts on it have changed over time. So bizarre and incredibly worrying.

Well if you actually bothered to read my post you would have seen I have from the tragic experience of a close friend falling in a river at this tome of year. I have shared what the police told his family about the technology and search so you can fuck off. I have been with people going through what this family are and one of the worst things for them was people who know jack shit saying he couldn't be there if they didn't find him really quickly. When you have sat and comforted someone crying because they buried their drowned son the Friday before Mothers Day you can sneer as much as you want.

'For those puzzled by Willows harness being off. I remove my dogs harnesses when they are likely to go into water and many others do too.'
I thought it said it was normal for the dog's harness to be removed when entering the field and then put back on when leaving for the riverbank.

Slipping into the river or bring pushed into the river doesn't automatically equate with drowning. Many people have fallen or been pushed into bodies of water and gotten themselves back out. Since she is a strong swimmer, it isn't likely she would panic. Something else would have had to go wrong in addition to falling in / being pushed. She would have had to have been unconscious or pulled and caught under water etc.

Many moons ago I used to teach swimming lessons in Canada and when the kids were around 9-10, we would have them come to a lesson fully clothed with winter jackets and they would have to stay afloat and swim in the pool for 5 plus minutes and then make their way to the edge and climb out. They couldn't all last 5 minutes but they all made their way back to the side and got out without drowning.

@countrygirl99 Exactly. Some of us have personally experienced aspects of this case and while it is triggering, it has been given publicity so we are entitled to discuss it and share our insights without being randomly cancelled.

'Wow. He said that the river isn’t tidal there? I thought it was a tidal river and couldn’t really understand why everyone was speculating. He clearly knows his stuff. He deals with this a lot. I would have more confidence in him than the police tbh. Unless they are working on building a case behind the scenes which is altogether possible'

I wonder if they are, if this is the case the abduction theory needs left alone by the public.

"Could it not just be pure coincidence that Nicola's disappearance and the book launch happened to occur at around the same time?"

Of course it's a coincidence. He didn't write a fucking book in the last week. He's being criticised for forcing himself into the limelight and making some very bold claims to the likes of Jeremy Kyle. Some are saying he's doing it because he's got a book release.

For clarity, I disagree with those people.

I am really sorry to hear about your personal issues, and hope you find closure.

As far as this forum is concerned, to me its a place where ppl can discuss the topic away from the family concerned. People can ask questions without offending. I'm appalled by some of the twitter stuff

The police now need to urgently extend the search, and start seriously considering theories well beyond the obvious (drowning).

Peter is now adamant she did not enter the river from the area of the bench or near it.

It's not like he's just a random guy either. He's who the police use for the whole of the south west I think he said. They obviously trust his expertise.

@dawngreen its the Twitter and TikTok and the comments on her personal Facebook page that they're so against. Unsurprisingly

I know the river well and my father came from Scorton so spent a lot of my time as child playing along side it. A childhood friend was killed when he came off his moped aged 17 in the late 70s and fell into the Wyre at St Michael's and his body was eventually found at Knott End.

Agreed
I just don't understand why they aren't all over rowanwater with it being the last sighting of her

@vera99 did he fall in upstream or downstream of the weir?

It's not a book I would buy personally but I respect that he is an expert in a niche area and others may be interested.
I don't even know if sales will skyrocket because he has raised his public profile.

'Why do ppl keep insisting that the river is slow? the top currents might be but the under currents can be fast.'

Is this dependent on time of year, a particular day, weather etc? It has been reported that the water were calm on the day Nicola Bulley went missing. The expert said they were tidal enough, given his experience how could he get this wrong?