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This Morning - No mention of Little Arthur

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smileanddance · 07/12/2021 11:49

The horrendous case of Arthur is at the forefront of all our minds this week, and all other live TV shows seem to be discussing the case, however Phil and Holly have not so much as uttered a word about him this week. They are so smiley and happy and I just find it really disrespectful and surprising that they haven't even acknowledged him. AIBU??

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Almostmenopausal · 07/12/2021 19:56

@PAFMO Whoa! What horrendous stereotyping! You should be ashamed of yourself! Who told you Arthur had nits? That he smelled? That he swore? You're just stereotyping him, because of the family he came from! For all you know he could've been a very well behaved and shy kid! One which was well liked at school.

STOP stereotyping kids based on their background.

ABCeasyasdohrayme · 07/12/2021 20:02

[quote Almostmenopausal]@PAFMO Whoa! What horrendous stereotyping! You should be ashamed of yourself! Who told you Arthur had nits? That he smelled? That he swore? You're just stereotyping him, because of the family he came from! For all you know he could've been a very well behaved and shy kid! One which was well liked at school.

STOP stereotyping kids based on their background. [/quote]
I think PAFMO was talking about other threads which have been posted on here, all the listed things have been given as reasons for posters not wanting their kid near another.

Qqqqqqqq · 07/12/2021 20:07

Arthur's paternal grandmother is a secondary school teacher

His maternal grandmother is a nurse

His mother went to a fee paying public school and a top university, Nottingham University not a former polytechnic or college

Arthur has a good academic background in terms of relatives

He did swear, but who can blame him, you only pick up what is in your environment - his environment was that loser Hughes who has no academic qualifications and never had a decent job in his life, plus that trash Tustin who is definitely low, low, low class.
If he did smell that was because he was being abused and they didn't let him bathe.
I doubt he had nits, that monster Tustin wouldn't have him in the house.

How nasty to speak of a little angel like this. To the poster that you quoted.

PAFMO · 07/12/2021 20:08

@ABCeasyasdohrayme
Yes I was.

@Almostmenopausal, are you OK? Seriously? You are making yourself look rather silly.

PAFMO · 07/12/2021 20:09

@Qqqqqqqq

Arthur's paternal grandmother is a secondary school teacher

His maternal grandmother is a nurse

His mother went to a fee paying public school and a top university, Nottingham University not a former polytechnic or college

Arthur has a good academic background in terms of relatives

He did swear, but who can blame him, you only pick up what is in your environment - his environment was that loser Hughes who has no academic qualifications and never had a decent job in his life, plus that trash Tustin who is definitely low, low, low class.
If he did smell that was because he was being abused and they didn't let him bathe.
I doubt he had nits, that monster Tustin wouldn't have him in the house.

How nasty to speak of a little angel like this. To the poster that you quoted.

Christ almighty. Has there been a comprehension bypass on here tonight?
Almostmenopausal · 07/12/2021 20:11

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Almostmenopausal · 07/12/2021 20:11

[quote lollipoprainbow]@Almostmenopausal making it about herself as usual. I was appalled by the case but didn't feel the need to cry, doesn't mean I'm not a 'decent' person. [/quote]
How am I making ANYTHING about myself???? What???? I'm not the OP....

ABCeasyasdohrayme · 07/12/2021 20:12

@PAFMO your post was pretty clear. Not sure why a couple of posters think otherwise Confused

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lollipoprainbow · 07/12/2021 20:14

@Almostmenopausal I meant Suzanne Reid Envy

Kitkatchunkyplease · 07/12/2021 20:18

[quote Almostmenopausal]@Darkpheonix It has nothing to do with poor comprehension! I knew exactly what you meant. You just had to slip in the fact that you've recently had something awful happen, knowing fine well that nobody (ie: OP) can challenge anything you say because of your awful experience. It's a bit sick.

When my Dad died I most certainly did not tell a bunch of strangers on the internet in order to emotionally pin whatever point down that I was making at the time on an entirely irrelevant subject.

Again, sorry for your loss. [/quote]
Just because you couldn't read and understand something effectively, doesn't mean you should post something so vile. Leave her alone.

Qqqqqqqq · 07/12/2021 20:19

@ABCeasyasdohrayme

I've just seen someone online trying to organise a nationwide doorstep clap for Arthur tomorrow night.

This is beginning to remind me of Charlie Gard and the self proclaimed 'army', some people do just jump from tragedy to tragedy and make it about themselves.

Isn't this the same as the Birmingham city thing? What was the point?!

If these footballers really cared they would give poor kids free tickets to their matches.

ABCeasyasdohrayme · 07/12/2021 20:20

@Almostmenopausal I'm not sure what your issue is, but you probably shouldn't half read a thread, jump to conclusions and berate other posters based on your wrong assumptions.

Darkpheonix · 07/12/2021 20:23

[quote Almostmenopausal]@Darkpheonix It has nothing to do with poor comprehension! I knew exactly what you meant. You just had to slip in the fact that you've recently had something awful happen, knowing fine well that nobody (ie: OP) can challenge anything you say because of your awful experience. It's a bit sick.

When my Dad died I most certainly did not tell a bunch of strangers on the internet in order to emotionally pin whatever point down that I was making at the time on an entirely irrelevant subject.

Again, sorry for your loss. [/quote]
Its definitely your poor comprehension.

Which you then went on to display regarding other posts.

The only one who is sick is you. Finding posts, to then lie about to suit your own agenda? Weird.

You obviously don't know what I meant. Because you are wrong. Most people reading that post can tell that

And what would there be to argue about? Are you saying no one else in the country has had anything else to think about apart from this? Or are you suggesting the country is in tatters?

Where did I compare my situation to Arthur's? At all. I said that the whole country isn't in tatters. That people, I causing me, have other things to deal with that mean we can't be in tatters over a situation we have no involvement in.

And quite frankly, I give no fucks about what you did when your dad died. You may believe that because you decide something, that's what everyone else is obliged to do.....but that's just your inflated self importance.

hotmeatymilk · 07/12/2021 20:24

If these footballers really cared they would give poor kids free tickets to their matches.
Is this more or less nuts than “ITV should support my emotional distress via Philip and Holly”? Hard to say.

Bluntness100 · 07/12/2021 20:27

I don’t think holly and Phil are really equipped for offering rhe public support over this brutal murder, I don’t really understand why you feel they are there to support people in matters like this? They are just presenters on a light fluffy entertainment show.

If you need support it’s better to use other resources, like your gp or the Samaritans.

smileanddance · 07/12/2021 20:32

How on earth was Suzanna Reid making it about herself?!
I am really perplexed about the comments on this thread. This Morning covered the Charlie Gard case in detail and had his parents on regularly to interview. Therefore why shouldn't Arthur have a voice too.
I understand it is a light entertainment show however I wasn't expecting such angry responses. I wonder how you would react if someone in real life cried in front of you regarding this case, would you just start shouting at them and calling them a Grief Wanker?!
I am absolutely not wanting a dissection or any information about the case, I chose not to listen to the Grandma interview this morning, however I don't like the way the TV sensationalises things and then drops them when something better comes along. I don't feel like they have done Arthur much justice and it's clearly a topic that needs discussing as the system is completely flawed (discussing on a more general level, not specifics)

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Luredbyapomegranate · 07/12/2021 20:42

It’s an awful case. But you are over invested.

I’d honestly stop following this story. It doesn’t sound like it’s doing you any good. Why would Holly and Phil offer support? Why would their audience need support? Why would you? It’s a bizarre idea.

If you want to make the world a better place, great. Focus on the things you have the power to change.

Darkpheonix · 07/12/2021 20:45

This Morning covered the Charlie Gard case in detail and had his parents on regularly to interview. Therefore why shouldn't Arthur have a voice too.

That doesn't obligate this morning to talk about Arthur. ITV other programmes covered it.

Daytime TV can't give Arthur a voice. That's what the justice system is doing.

I don't feel like they have done Arthur much justice and it's clearly a topic that needs discussing as the system is completely flawed (discussing on a more general level, not specifics)

But it has been discussed on TV. On ITV, just not that one programme.

Why is it you think all that is achieved if This Morning covers it?

If someone in RL started crying over This Morning, not covering it an saying they have an obligation to provide support, to people who have nothing to do with case, I would suggest they need some professional support and that it's not This Mornings responsibility to provide it.

RobinPenguins · 07/12/2021 20:46

If you genuinely feel you need support over a tragic news story that doesn’t involve people you know in real life, I don’t think ITV are the people to help you. The nation is not in tatters, by the way.

What could Phil and Holly possibly add to the conversation?

FallingStar21 · 07/12/2021 20:57

@smileanddance

I think you have been ripped to shreds here by other posters for no good reason.

The whole nation may not be in tatters, but there are MANY who have been haunted and feel heartbroken. It's normal for any human being with an ounce of heart to feel that way.

And you know what - no one can tell you that "it's not your grief to bear". It is your grief, and everyone else's, everyone who felt an overwhelming love and sorrow for poor little Arthur. You don't have to be family or even have known him - you could still mourn him and love him Flowers

ABCeasyasdohrayme · 07/12/2021 20:58

This Morning covered the Charlie Gard case in detail and had his parents on regularly to interview. Therefore why shouldn't Arthur have a voice too.

At that point it was actively going through court. This case has been through court, Arthur's murderers have been found guilty, and they are in prison, as they should be. What else is left to say now. What happened is truly awful, but having grief thieves salivate over the details to get themselves more distressed than anyone else, then do silly things like demand support over the loss of a little boy they didn't know isn't going to do the family, you know, the people who are actually mourning the loss of Arthur, any good.

And yes, if someone started crying about someone they don't know, and demanding support in front of me I would tell them that they are being ridiculous.

There are real families behind these news headlines who will feel this long after you've moved onto your next news story, and may well be reading all these people who think that Arthur is their loss.

ABCeasyasdohrayme · 07/12/2021 21:00

It is your grief

Confused no it is not.

Its the grief of Arthur's family.

HunkyPunk · 07/12/2021 21:11

Isn't this the same as the Birmingham city thing? What was the point?!

Arthur was a Birmingham City fan. I believe it’s common practice for clubs, if aware of, or informed about, the deaths of fans, to commemorate them in this way.

smileanddance · 07/12/2021 21:14

Thank you Fallingstar! I was starting to think I was going mad. I probably do get too affected by things that happen in the news, but that's just the way I'm wired and I don't think I'm alone. I was never like this before I had kids may I add. I don't tend to discuss this in person with anyone, (definitely no competitive grief or whatever you all call it) and have always in the past found solace from listening to discussions about it on TV. Strange as that may sound to some, I really don't understand the anger around this.

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