This Morning - No mention of Little Arthur

[smileanddance]

The horrendous case of Arthur is at the forefront of all our minds this week, and all other live TV shows seem to be discussing the case, however Phil and Holly have not so much as uttered a word about him this week. They are so smiley and happy and I just find it really disrespectful and surprising that they haven't even acknowledged him. AIBU??

I've just seen someone online trying to organise a nationwide doorstep clap for Arthur tomorrow night.

Christ Almighty . What bloody good will that do? Another chance for attention seekers to show 'how much they care' 🙄. If only they'd put a fraction of their effort into something that might actually make a difference - like raising funds for the NSPCC.

As others have said - this is not an isolated case. There are countless children across the UK currently being abused. If only everyone at that football match had put a tenner in an NSPCC collecting tin and written to their MP demanding greater investment in child protection services - that would have actually meant something.

There's something quite sick about a society that doesn't do enough to protect children, but goes in for mass public displays to show how much they 'care' ...

@smileanddance

Genuinely shocked by the anger some people have towards people who are upset about this story. Surely this is what forums like this are here for? To discuss what's on our mind?

I agree that This Morning is probably the wrong platform, however if ITV decided to show the nation those vile videos, they should now hold some responsibility in dealing with the affect they have had on many viewers (seemingly few on this thread!)

Some of us have had children die, and others use our bereavement to get attention for themselves and act like they are the most upset, as if its a competition.

There was a thread on here about a very ill little girl and everyone was trying to show off how sad they were "I keep refreshing social media for updates" "well I have a night out planned but I'm not going because I'm too sad" " well I haven't stopped crying for a week". Its sheer grief vampirism.

That's why it irritates me so much, I'm sure others have equally valid reasons.

@smileanddance

Genuinely shocked by the anger some people have towards people who are upset about this story. Surely this is what forums like this are here for? To discuss what's on our mind?

I agree that This Morning is probably the wrong platform, however if ITV decided to show the nation those vile videos, they should now hold some responsibility in dealing with the affect they have had on many viewers (seemingly few on this thread!)

They really don't have a responsibility to support viewers. And even if they did that support isn't going to come from a light entertainment program.

[quote lollipoprainbow]@ABCeasyasdohrayme they'll be campaigning for a state funeral next and what's the betting people will try and find out where's he buried so they can leave teddies etc. all a bit undignified. [/quote]
Yes, there's already a petition for him to have a state funeral on change.org.

Yes, there's already a petition for him to have a state funeral on change.org.

Will there be a state funeral for every child killed by neglect or abuse? Probably not. It's really obscene, to be honest.

@smileanddance

Genuinely shocked by the anger some people have towards people who are upset about this story. Surely this is what forums like this are here for? To discuss what's on our mind?

I agree that This Morning is probably the wrong platform, however if ITV decided to show the nation those vile videos, they should now hold some responsibility in dealing with the affect they have had on many viewers (seemingly few on this thread!)

I am genuinely shocked that you keep twisting what people keep posting g so it suits your agenda.

@smileanddance

Genuinely shocked by the anger some people have towards people who are upset about this story. Surely this is what forums like this are here for? To discuss what's on our mind?

I agree that This Morning is probably the wrong platform, however if ITV decided to show the nation those vile videos, they should now hold some responsibility in dealing with the affect they have had on many viewers (seemingly few on this thread!)

You need to take responsibility for yourself. You don't go an watch a Saw movie then ask the cinema for counselling.

This site needs a separate section for the Grief Vampires where they can indulge in their self-indulgent, prurient, competitive public wailing and emoting without annoying the rest of us.

I agree that This Morning is probably the wrong platform, however if ITV decided to show the nation those vile videos, they should now hold some responsibility in dealing with the affect they have had on many viewers (seemingly few on this thread!)
“Show the nation” – you make it sound like a state broadcast. I haven’t seen the videos, though I’m aware of them and have read news stories, but everywhere I’ve had the potential to see them has shared with major caveats and warnings like “warning: distressing content”, giving readers and viewers the option to take responsibility and not watch.

You’re clearly finding it very distressing, which isn’t unreasonable in itself. But it’s not a commercial TV channel’s responsibility to deal with that for you – and wouldn’t further discussion then distress someone else. Does your work offer a mental health hotline or employee counselling, as many do?

I think the lack of mention is much more respectful.
It’s a very light show where they discuss something serious for five minutes then move on to a fashion or cooking segment.
Much better to not mention it at all if it can’t be given the appropriate level of time and respect.

I agree that This Morning is probably the wrong platform, however if ITV decided to show the nation those vile videos, they should now hold some responsibility in dealing with the affect they have had on many viewers (seemingly few on this thread!) but you are responsible for having watched those video’s, it wasn’t compulsory.

There were actually threads on here complaining about the press sharing those video’s, threads where the same video’s were shared so that everyone could feel outraged over it.

Anyone who watched those video’s did so through choice, including on the news where they may or may not have been shown. If you didn’t feel you wanted to watch them then you should have switched them off.

While I agree that those kinds of video’s really shouldn’t be out there, one of the reasons they are is because people want to see them, and the more people click on them, the more hits they get, and the more money the press make.

We don’t need to watch a child being abused or whatever happened in that video to know that it goes on.

Is it me or is the word “support” totally overused now? Just all the time support support support. Once you notice it you can’t unnotice it. What does it actually mean?

@BoobsOnTheMoon

"support" ??

Support for who? I'm sure those involved are being offered appropriate support.

I'm so fucking sick of the competitive grief coming from people who have no connection to the story.

Completely agree with this. It is horrific and tragic, and the authorities need to be held to account for their failures, but 'the whole nation is in tatters'? Really?

I don't think the TV execs should have ever shared those horrific videos with the general public in the first place, but now they have without any trigger warnings, they need to take responsibility and offer content with support for what they have made us witness

No one has made you witness anything. I haven't seen the videos, because common sense tells you that a video connected to the trial of people accused of torturing a little boy is going to distressing. I don't want to be distressed, so I didn't watch it, it's not exactly hard

It’s no wonder the world is going to hell in a fucking handcart.

Whine whine whine.

@Libertaire

This site needs a separate section for the Grief Vampires where they can indulge in their self-indulgent, prurient, competitive public wailing and emoting without annoying the rest of us.

I agree

Something about my thread thinks it more about op being disappointed she couldn't watch the situation being dissected again.

Op if the situation has upset you, to the point t you have lost perspective and looking for daytime TV to provide the support you lack, due to having no family and assuming that because you are in 'tatters- that the while country is then I think you need to seek some professional help for yourself.

Not my thread. This thread, obviously 🙄

the whole nation is in tatters over this awful story

It is? I don't know where you live but most people seem to be doing ok where I am...

[quote Almostmenopausal]@Darkpheonix Shame on you for using your mother's death to try make OP feel guilty. I'm sorry for your loss but that's got nothing whatsoever to do with Arthur's experience [/quote]
That's not what she did ! She was saying people are not all in tatters over it as people have their own personal tragedies too so we don't need national counselling.

I understand what you are saying.
Little Arthur deserves to be talked about every day until the system is changed.
Once a story goes quiet then the pressure is off the system to reform.
People accusing others of being grief vultures, you don't have to comment on this thread leave it for OP and similar minds.
What nasty people, can't allow others to feel grief over a kid, just because they didn't personally know him?!

As for Arthur's mum, she isn't a child abuser or a child murderer so she shouldn't be put in the same category as those POS Tustin and Hughes.

The judge doesn't know what went on in her home, who knows why she did what she did.

@lollipoprainbow

It was bad enough seeing Susanna Reid weeping on breakfast tv this morning trying to show how empathetic she is!

Or she could be genuinely emotional? She will likely have read/watched clips on the story before going on air to refresh her memory of the facts. Most (decent) people cried when they learnt the details of this story. Just because she's on tv means she can't possibly be showing genuine emotion????

[quote Almostmenopausal]@Darkpheonix Shame on you for using your mother's death to try make OP feel guilty. I'm sorry for your loss but that's got nothing whatsoever to do with Arthur's experience [/quote]
Wtf?

How is that what I said? Where did I say it was anything similar?

If that's what you got from my post, then there's not helping you.

But absolutely do not try and put shame on me because you have poor comprehension.