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This Morning - No mention of Little Arthur

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smileanddance · 07/12/2021 11:49

The horrendous case of Arthur is at the forefront of all our minds this week, and all other live TV shows seem to be discussing the case, however Phil and Holly have not so much as uttered a word about him this week. They are so smiley and happy and I just find it really disrespectful and surprising that they haven't even acknowledged him. AIBU??

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DanceInTheKitchen · 07/12/2021 12:33

But they don't cover every single story.

I know. But they did mention and do an interview touching upon Sarah Everard for example. I think they do often mention news stories that have a lot of public interest.

It’s obviously very sad which many people have found disturbing. Although I don’t personally, I have known of others like OP who do look to TV programmes to offer support or to make sense of their feelings. I don’t think there’s any need for people to be negative to the OP for asking a question.

Sirzy · 07/12/2021 12:33

But what is to be gained by discussing it over and over.

I’m an adult I know to report if I am worried about a child’s welfare.

If I want to donate to a childrens welfare charity I can Google it in a few seconds.

We can discuss what needs changing in the system until we are blue in the face but it won’t change anything.

hotmeatymilk · 07/12/2021 12:33

I feel like the TV shows should be discussing what can be done to improve the system, what we as the public can do to help, what charities we can all donate to, what we can do if we are concerned about any children etc. There's loads of topics they can discuss,
And there are plenty of avenues for those discussions. Light entertainment shows are not the appropriate place. What expert insight into the system and safeguarding can a daytime chat show offer?

DanceInTheKitchen · 07/12/2021 12:34

*Its obviously a very sad case which many people have found disturbing.

Hoppinggreen · 07/12/2021 12:34

@smileanddance

Good points, fair enough! I just find it strange that the whole nation is in tatters over this awful story and they aren't offering any support over it. They do a lot of phone-ins where they do cover serious topics too. Loose women discussed it and they are also a light entertainment show.
It is a terrible thing that happened but I am not sure the whole nation is in tatters Arthur should never be forgotten but it’s ok for people and/or a TV programmes not to mention him
Hoppinggreen · 07/12/2021 12:35

@PleasantBirthday

Surely it would be more disrespectful to slot in a mention of him in between all the fluff.

No, not at all. It'd fit right in between a features on funny potatoes that look like Kerry Katona and anal bleaching.

True
SixQuidGames · 07/12/2021 12:40

For god’s sake.

All this performative grieving and ghoulish rending of clothes from people who have nothing to do with it is really disgusting.

Absolutely sick of seeing grief vultures filling MN with these dreadful threads competing about who can be the most sad and poring over every detail of it.

Catlove53 · 07/12/2021 12:43

He deserves to rest in peace. I'm so fed up of all this false grieving. Society failed him big time and all the vulture like grieving in the name of click bait and ratings is sickening.

smileanddance · 07/12/2021 12:45

Wow can now clearly see why our nation has a national mental health crisis. God forbid you should to dare to display any emotion!

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Catlove53 · 07/12/2021 12:45

Noone made you watch the videos op. There's an off switch on mobiles and TV.

SixQuidGames · 07/12/2021 12:47

@smileanddance

Wow can now clearly see why our nation has a national mental health crisis. God forbid you should to dare to display any emotion!
Tosh.

There’s a huge difference between displaying emotion and being a grief vampire over a child you don’t even know.

Medievalist · 07/12/2021 12:48

I feel like the TV shows should be discussing what can be done to improve the system, what we as the public can do to help, what charities we can all donate to, what we can do if we are concerned about any children etc

Improvements to the system need to come from the government and those responsible for children's services not TV.

You need TV to tell you what charities you can donate to? Really? You've never heard of charities like the NSPCC or Childline?

You need TV to tell you what to do if you witness or suspect child abuse? You wouldn't think of contacting social services, the police, school safeguarding officers?

What happened to Arthur was horrific, but I am not in tatters over it and I don't need support from the likes of Phil and Holly. The idea that people need 'support' if they see or hear something upsetting on TV is quite frankly ridiculous. There is so much suffering and cruelty in the world (have you seen the latest reports and photos of starving children in Afghanistan?) it's crass to think that it's the viewer that needs support and help.

Sirzy · 07/12/2021 12:48

And how is TV going over and over it from different angles going to help the mental health of anyone?

Mrsjayy · 07/12/2021 12:51

Fixating and consuming details about a tragedy Is different to being upset and sad about a tragedy. You made a leap to mental health crisis really fast!

Hoppinggreen · 07/12/2021 12:51

@smileanddance

Wow can now clearly see why our nation has a national mental health crisis. God forbid you should to dare to display any emotion!
Utter shite We display far too much emotion if you ask me - it all started with the death of Diana People are a bunch of grief vampires these days, they enjoy the attention from all the hysteria and the feeling that the sobbing and wailing somehow makes them a good person
SickAndTiredAgain · 07/12/2021 12:57

The video has completely haunted me

Surely your complaint is with the programmes that showed it then, not with This Morning that didn’t?
I agree that that video is horrible and was surprised it was so widely shown. That’s separate to This Morning not covering it though.

girlmom21 · 07/12/2021 12:58

I'm confused OP.
You were upset that This Morning haven't focussed on it but now you're not upset that they haven't but that other outlets have and haven't offered you appropriate support?

So should they be showing it or not? In your opinion?

Medievalist · 07/12/2021 12:58

Instead of focusing on how this horrendous case has affected you op and the lack of TV support, how about doing something more positive like making a donation to the NSPCC.

You can use the link below -

https://secure.nspcc.org.uk/single-donation/step1/?amt=25/?source=ppc-brand&gclsrc=aw.ds&dsrl=1279303&dssrl=1279303&gclid=Cj0KCQiAqbyNBhC2ARIsALDwAsAaDSR8Y33OKZOSbZyV8Yezdfgiyy5SSvtTFUH6sD4zfljk4yVOhAaAhk9EALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

pigsDOfly · 07/12/2021 13:00

@SixQuidGames

For god’s sake.

All this performative grieving and ghoulish rending of clothes from people who have nothing to do with it is really disgusting.

Absolutely sick of seeing grief vultures filling MN with these dreadful threads competing about who can be the most sad and poring over every detail of it.

Yes, there does seem to be an awful lot of that sort of behaviour. I think it started with the death of Diana, when it seemed like the whole country, apart from me, was wailing and gnashing its collective teeth.

Tbh, I have not listened to the details of this child's death because I find things like that very difficult to deal with so tend to shy away from them. I

It's enough to know that he was murdered in an horrendous manner and know who murdered him. I don't need to know every detail of the last days of his life.

Apparently for a lot of people on MN however, every detail must be looked at and gone over, even discussing it with young children, in an 'age appropriate' way, of course.

And then, of course, they can discuss their upset and horror at the whole awful case; it's not about you. It's about the death and suffering of one small child.

I remember at the time of Jamie Bulgar's murder my BIL asking my opinion about it, I had young children of my own at the time. My reply to him was the same as it would be over this case, 'I haven't been reading about it in details because I know it will haunt me for months and nothing will be served from my knowing the ins and outs of the torture and death of a young child.'

And as for people needing a number they can ring so they can get 'support', what the hell?

SallyWD · 07/12/2021 13:02

To be honest I'd hate it if they covered the story. You'd have 5 minutes of them discussing it then on to more silliness with Phil and Holly giggling away. It would be very disrectful. I hope they never mention it.

authenticforgery · 07/12/2021 13:05

OP do you realise what happened to 'little' Arthur is happening right now right across the world? There are children right this second being neglected, beaten, sexually abused, starved, trafficked, filmed for other people, the list goes on. What disturbs me about all these posts about Arthur is how people seem to have only just realised this is happening? For every case that is discovered because the child ends up being killed or social services manage to intervene, there's thousands of other kids still living in hell every single day. And your focus is on the need for tv shows to "support" the nation? Please, please get a grip and focus your attention on ways you can help to change things for vulnerable children.

Darkpheonix · 07/12/2021 13:06

@smileanddance

Wow can now clearly see why our nation has a national mental health crisis. God forbid you should to dare to display any emotion!
Don't be so ridiculous, who said you can't display emotion.

But you don't have to have support for this. It's doesn't involve you. Of course you can be horrified or sad etc. But trying to adopt it as something that's happened to you isn't healthy. A TV channel isn't obliged to provide it support. Or put it on evert programme. Imagining the whole nation in tatters, isn't healthy.

Do you think non of us have had pur own awful happenings this week

The news was on in the background and then the video just started showing and I couldn't find the remote quick enough to switch the TV off

So it could have had a trigger warning. You just may have no heard it?

toolazytothinkofausername · 07/12/2021 13:07

@MorningStarling

Why would they? It's not a news programme, it's light entertainment.
This.
HeartsAndClubs · 07/12/2021 13:07

Good points, fair enough! I just find it strange that the whole nation is in tatters over this awful story and they aren't offering any support over it. They do a lot of phone-ins where they do cover serious topics too. Loose women discussed it and they are also a light entertainment show. no, the nation really isn’t in tatters over it and you don’t need support for a tragedy which is not yours to grieve.

All this competitive griefmongering is hideous, and all the virtue signalling “I’m in tatters and need support/haven’t been able to sleep for weeks/I’m sobbing while watching the video,” needs to stop.

And frankly I find the fact that anyone would want to watch the video which was hawked about all over the press and the internet as if it’s some kind of entertainment bloody sick. why does anyone want to watch that? why?

There is no reason other than to jump on a bandwagon and paint yourself as the victim you’re not.

SixQuidGames · 07/12/2021 13:09

@pigsDOfly Absolutely agree. I have avoided the details because I find it too distressing, but there seem to be a lot of people on MN who have a prurient need to keep posting all the details in multiple threads about it and it’s frankly sickening.