Alfie Evans 6

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Following on from the last thread. If there's one already please do delete this one.

Remember not to speculate or make negative comments about the family or discussions will be stopped.

Thoughts are with Alfie tonight

Such an important and sensitive topic.

Let's all remember the tactics used to derail previous threads when considering whether to directly engage with certain posters.

I can only hope and pray that Alder Hey are still monitoring the FB page.

Can anyone with any medical knowledge give any insight into whether it would be in Alfie’s best interests to leave the hospital to go home, as that is what the parents are aiming for.

As he can’t see, hear or smell can he feel temperature or feel himself being moved? If not then from his perspective whether he’s in hospital or at home is surely neither here nor there, so there would be no reason to deny the parents their wish to have him at home, but if he can sense his surroundings then it may be freightening for him to be moved out of the surroundings he’s used to?

@cuntinuous yes I do worry that all this MEP campaign will take flight. No one expected Brexit, or Trump yet here we are, and probably largely due to misinformation on SM.

Now sky news are cunts.
You couldn't make this up.
These people are deranged .

@bigpink as I understand it had they agreed to the care plan months ago then it’s likely Alfie would have gone home or to a hospice months ago. Due to the disagreement between the parents and AH then that’s delayed things. Sending him home isn’t abnormal at this stage.

dancing How rude. Do you want people to say they will weep and wail about a child they don’t know?

I can't see how he could be 'swooped up', assuming that means being taken out of the UK.

@cocoa I’m partly thinking the same and then partly thinking how hard this would be. Anyone from the UK helping would be in contempt of court.

No one here is moaning that the family aren’t updating (although Alfie’s uncle still is).

You're.

I sincerely hope that no Italian Doctors would even think about intubating him at home.

It looks like AH have told Tom no media, no protests and they will work towards Alfie going home.

I believe they are saying in this statement

"This will be until something changes with the hospital but we hope and pray it doesnt🙏🏼🙏🏼"

That if the hospital change there mind and Alfie can't go home, then things will change and Tom will speak to media and the protests will start again.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

"Americantan

MrsDV I think some people are struggling to get past the ill will that has been whipped up by TE against a loved and respected hospital and its staff."

@Americantan, sorry, but this is where the 'love of the NHS has to stop. These people, the staff, are professionals, doing their job. If a relative is having a terrible time accepting that their loved one will die, it is the professional duty of staff to work with them, as far as is able, to help them come to a place of acceptance or at least understanding of the action that must be taken. If threats are made, the staff have a right to be protected, and the relative is not allowed free reign, regardless of their stress levels.

However, if that relative has calmed, regardless of motivation, and agreed to cooperate with the staff, then nobody should be continuing to denigrate him in the name of solidarity with maligned NHS staff. They are there to serve AE. Their goal will be a good death for him, and a bearable life for his parents. in that order.

It doesn't help to have people still criticising a man who has taken the biggest public u turn, at great cost to him, because he was a bad boy. Give over.

dancing - your "only a tear" comment was rude and offensive but doubly so given you directed it at user1471 who has shared their moving story about the circumstances of their brother's death and the impact it had on individuals and family relationships over many decades. You really should apologise.

I don't see how their goal can be a good death when they are still continuing to vehemently deny he is dying

Grim reapers? How do you come to that conclusion? It’s one of the main news stories in the country, you can’t expect people NOT to discuss it.

Can we stop engaging with certain GF’s on the thread. It just derails the discussion.

Block it out...it's white noise