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Chrissie Hynde said that victims of assault have to take responsibility

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Gymbunny1204 · 30/08/2015 11:53

She's been interviewed by the Sunday Times.

Wearing short skirt, high heels, drunk - implies your fault if raped. Dressed like that you need to be able to run. She says.

She was assaulted at age 21. Says her fault she went with the men.

I hate her for making me think for a split second it was my fault I was abused as a child for running to the loo in just a top which did cover my bottom, I had no pants on. In front of the abuser.

Piece in the daily mail about her interview.

I suspect she has a record to promote.

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Mainkster · 01/09/2015 16:00

I'm not blaming victims or suggesting one locks one vagina, how stupid is that comment!

See my opening remarks.

This issue always brings up those who are unable to see any other point of view and just want to scream their narrow minded opinion with their fingers in their ears.
BUT it's an important issue, few things can compete with the trauma of sexual assault or rape. The feeling of violation and fear that stays with the victim for life is horrific.
So it makes sense to stay safe. Doesn't mean you are to blame if you get attacked.

gymbunny it's very sad if you were a victim of abuse but it doesn't give you the right to be an arse to me and make unfounded accusations. If what you say is true your situation is different anyway.

Mainkster · 01/09/2015 16:01

Slithytove ... It's YOUR fault, but ASDA know you're out there so they have some security measures to make it more difficult

ThumbWitchesAbroad · 01/09/2015 16:04

"So it makes sense to stay safe. Doesn't mean you are to blame if you get attacked."

CAn you not even see the contradiction there? "stay safe" but you might still get attacked. FFS!

iamaboveandBeyond · 01/09/2015 16:04

Mine isnt different. Please tell me mainkster how, although in a short skirt and drunk, i was to blame when jumped by four acquaintances at a house party?

ThumbWitchesAbroad · 01/09/2015 16:05

And really? You're accusing gym of being a liar now? Yes you are! "IF what you say is true"...

You are a victim blamer, no doubt.

Oswin · 01/09/2015 16:05

Seeing as I'm more likely to be raped by a friend or partner how can I be safe. Fucking stupidness Angry. Does this seem like the thread to air your stupid opinions? No its not. You wanna fucking debate start a thread. Insensitive or what?!

Lottapianos · 01/09/2015 16:07

Are any of you victim blamers actually willing to tell us how we're supposed to 'stay safe'? This is about the fifth time of asking.

iamaboveandBeyond · 01/09/2015 16:08

How could i be more "safe" when four large squaddies decided in an enclosed space that i was disposable? Pray tell what difference trousers and trainers would make there.

Gymbunny1204 · 01/09/2015 16:08

Mainsker - I felt your comment that I commented on was victim blaming. Maybe you should rephrase it if you don't mean to blame a victim. You know nothing of my situation. Please don't pretend you do.

I'm not being an arse. How do you think I am?

Lying about it? Really. Lovely.

You have NO fucking idea how many years I've wanted to post on here regarding this to get support,advice, make a friend or two and then when I feel strongly enough to do so I'm accused of all that.

Wonderful.

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iamaboveandBeyond · 01/09/2015 16:08

Come on, we're all waiting...

Oswin · 01/09/2015 16:09

I hate it when people have this attitude. It makes me despair for my daughter. The whole rape culture will never stop unless we stop putting the blame on women. Don't give me bollocks that that's not what your doing cuz you fucking are. How about drumming it into boys heads from childhood NOT TO FUCKING RAPE.
Where's all the shit aimed at men suggesting to not be fucking rapists?!

iamaboveandBeyond · 01/09/2015 16:09

Gym Flowers we believe you. Certain posters are dickheads.

Lottapianos · 01/09/2015 16:12

iamabove and Gymbunny, I am so sorry for what you both went through, and so sorry that you're having to listen to this thoughtless cold hearted rubbish on here.

Victim blamers, how about you do a bit of thinking for a change instead of rattling off mindless cliches about 'staying safe'? You're hurting people on here with your ignorance so come up with some answers or take your nastiness elsewhere.

ThumbWitchesAbroad · 01/09/2015 16:12

Gym - I know there are a few people on this thread who are being painful, but the rest of us support and believe you. Please don't let the victim-blamers win this one.

You have the support here. Thanks

Gymbunny1204 · 01/09/2015 16:17

Thumb, you've made me cry. I recognise you from a long time. I've been here ten years. You've always been lovely so for you to take the time to post support without knowing who I've been means so much. Flowers

Thanks everyone else who has also shown support.

I guess the victim blamers have what they want as im reconsidering my membership. Clearly I'm too weak to cope with attacks. Of all kinds.

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grimbletart · 01/09/2015 16:18

And still we wait for instructions on how to "stay safe".

I fear we will have a long wait.

iamaboveandBeyond · 01/09/2015 16:21

Maink, stop being such a blatent troll, its getting boring.

Still waiting for tips. Oh and fyi, 'moron' is ridiculously offensive.

redshoeblueshoe · 01/09/2015 16:21

Gym Flowers

YonicScrewdriver · 01/09/2015 16:22

Maink, I think you've just arrived here today, unless you are a NCer of course.

We aren't utterly horrible to rape victims on this site. HTH.

iamaboveandBeyond · 01/09/2015 16:25

I'd certainly name-change if i were gonna spew out this sort of bile, yonic.

Lottapianos · 01/09/2015 16:26

Mainkster, don't you dare start preening and pretending that you're the one with the hefty intellect on here. You have been asked repeatedly to justify your offensive, victim blaming nonsense about 'staying safe' and you've come up with nothing. You are upsetting and hurting people who have lived through traumatic attacks by suggesting they were somehow to blame, or could have done something to avoid their attack. This is not a game and its' not funny. We're all still waiting.

ThumbWitchesAbroad · 01/09/2015 16:31

Oh I'm sorry I've made you cry but please please reconsider your thoughts about leaving - the trolls who are doing the victim blaming are the ones getting trounced here (hurrah!) and we will all hold you up and support you because that's what we do, all of us who care.
Thanks

Mainkster · 01/09/2015 16:32

Iamaboveandbeyond
I have clearly stated in my posts that victims are not to blame, so how can I tell you how are to blame when I have said that victims are not blame ?

As for the res all "waiting" posts... I've answered and it's that attudie which is one of trolls. I'm amused not concerned so carry on, I care nothing for your views.

You may find "moron" offensive but you have again failed to comprehend the sentence in its totality.

Given my issue with individuals is that they are arguing that I've said things I have not. Have you reread what I wrote and re considered or just trotted another thoughtless and ill conceived insulting opinion.
Answers on a postcard to... Not bothered Grin

YonicScrewdriver · 01/09/2015 16:36

Do you care that you are hurting rape victims, Maink?

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