Chrissie Hynde said that victims of assault have to take responsibility

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She's been interviewed by the Sunday Times.

Wearing short skirt, high heels, drunk - implies your fault if raped. Dressed like that you need to be able to run. She says.

She was assaulted at age 21. Says her fault she went with the men.

I hate her for making me think for a split second it was my fault I was abused as a child for running to the loo in just a top which did cover my bottom, I had no pants on. In front of the abuser.

Piece in the daily mail about her interview.

I suspect she has a record to promote.

Really stupid thing to say. No one is ever, ever asking for it. And it is always the rapist's fault!! Always

'Hynde went on to suggest that the reaction to her comments was overblown, in relation to other issues on the news agenda. ?At the moment, we?re in one of the worst humanitarian crises in our lifetime,? she said, referring to the current refugee crisis in Europe. ?We?re talking about millions of displaced persons and people whose families have been destroyed and we?re talking about comments that I allegedly made about girls in their underwear.? '

Quote from Chrissy Hynde in the Guardian today. Apparently because there are much bigger problems in the world, no-one has a right to debate the merits of what she said about the responsibility women must bear for their own rapes. We hear this kind of crap from misogynists all the time - how can you waste time debating this trivial stuff, little ladies, when there are so many bigger problems in the world? It's tiresome and cowardly and disingenous. Very disappointed by this from her

When you're in a hole, stop digging Chrissie.

Amazing. People are able, and allowed, to be outraged about more than one thing at a time, does she realise that? FFS.

I personally am outraged about several things at the moment. I manage it beautifully.

Same here Twunk. Never caused me a problem at all

Yeah, refugees.

Oh sorry, for a moment there my tiny lady brain couldnt deal with more than one issue at a time. for C Hynde

How many women are raped around the world? How many are killed and raped? How many are killed?

On a given day/week/year, possibly a lot more than how many refugees drown.

If we are going to actually talk about main problems how women are abused is a pretty big one, actually.

From Wikipedia:

"A United Nations statistical report compiled from government sources showed that more than 250,000 cases of rape or attempted rape were recorded by police annually"

Which we all know is hugely underestimated, even in developed and more women-friendly countries.

Sobering and outraging.

WHO:
"Violence against women: an urgent public health priority" www.who.int/bulletin/volumes/89/1/10-085217/en/

Just for the record, Chrissie.

"I personally am outraged about several things at the moment."

Me too. Am in a permanent state of outrage about almost everything.

In any case, refugee women are particularly vulnerable to being raped - it's not a separate issue. Or perhaps she thinks they asked for it by becoming refugees.

And in fact are often refugees partly because rape is used as a weapon of war.

Indeed

So, loose translation of CH's later comments = "stop picking on me for being a twat in what I said, and OH LOOK AT THE REFUGEE CRISIS! SO MUCH MORE IMPORTANT THAN VICTIM BLAMING!!"

Except it isn't, is it. Wonder what her next diversionary tactic will be...

I shared this on my FB recently, says it all I think.

Yes, I've seen that on FB - I think it's perfect.

That's great bogeyface

I hope not a single woman buys whatever she is intending to promote.

What did she actually say?

I heard a clip today where it stated she was drunk and stoned on drugs, dressed scantily and got on the back of a hell's angel's motorbike to go off with him, he had Proud to rape or similar on his t shirt.

Hell's angel's in the USA are not people you would expect to be able to reason with. A scary bunch. You wouldn't go off with them. I presume she was in the USA. Also people there are armed. You wouldn't go off with strangers.

That's why she feels she contributed to her rape.

She may have been naive to think she'd be safe.
But she didn't do it to herself.

If she had wanted or was prepared to service those men sexually, it wouldn't have been rape and she wouldn't have felt raped.

She probably was naive and foolish. Rape is not an appropriate punishment for either of those things. Her foolishness does not in any way excuse what they did to her. It remains 100% their fault.

I need to re-listen because I was half asleep, but she was awful on Woman's Hour this morning. Denied she'd said she was raped ("sexual assault"), her first response was to say we should buy her book to read about it! Talked about degrees of responsibility depending on where/who was sexually assaulting a woman and seemed to think feminism was about women wanting to "be like men".

It was really sad to listen to. I suspect it'll make me angrier if I listen again later whilst fully awake

I guess not wanting to use the word 'rape' is understandable - it may be her way of minimising what happened to her.

'Talked about degrees of responsibility depending on where/who was sexually assaulting a woman and seemed to think feminism was about women wanting to "be like men'

Yeah, this is just ignorance! I'm so disappointed - really wouldn't have expected this from her. I think I'll give the Woman's Hour interview a miss, thanks for the heads up

No, she didn't come across well, did she? And she's probably not going to re-evaluate her opinions either, as she said she doesn't really go online/follow the news. So she may not realise the controversy her opinions have caused, unless (as I suspect) it's all just bravado.

I was always a bit of a fan of hers, but I am massively disappointed in her too! At the beginning of this I did feel sorry for her as well, but not now. Although I still would like to read her book, I'll now wait a while until I can get a second-hand copy (so she won't get any money).

OP you could have been wearing a boiler suit and a burka, makes no difference! Not your fault at all!! If any ignorant piece of shyte feels differently, they're not worth knowing unless you feel they're worth trying to educate

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