Do you feel there will be an increase in illegal immigrants with a Labour government

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What is Labour's plan to stop the boat people? How will this stop those who want to come to England via channel crossings illegally??

What in your opinion is encouraging the boat/channel crossing illeagle immigrants to want to come to England even though they are already is a very safe and generous nation?

IMO, most that come to England now, the vast majority are young men looking for a better financial future. My opinion is based on the basis that if I was in a war-torn country and wanted to escape persecution etc. I would leave the country WITH MY FAMILY and would be grateful once in a safe country and not risk our helth/lift etc crossing the channel in small dingys.

So, do you feel that potential illegal immigrants are just hoping that Labour gets into power as they are seen as a softer touch??

We. ie my parents and siblings came to England in the early 60's from Asia via legal routes as England need workers - parents rented a room and built up their wealth from there.

FYI: If you go abroad, lets say to China/India/Newzealand/etc for a hols, fall in love with someone and want to marry them - just check out the criteria that you have to meet to sponsor a visa and then the massive costs for them to come over and then become a Brtish cotozen after 5 years of good standing - the person coming over is entitled to nothing other than access to NHS and this is allowed as the person/s coming over undergo strict medical tests - therefore very unfair on those wanting to come to England via legal routes

England needs skilled and unskilled workers and those who are coming over legally go through many tests before being allowed here and massive costs. It is very unfair to allow the boat people etc to settle in England when they have already entered a safe nation IMO

IMO, we created the stife in Afhghransatan, Libya, Syria and Iraq along with our boss the good old USA

People, and families do not help in war-torn nations and the very poor nations - most that come over illegally from the poorer, very poorer parts of the world pay thousands to gangs etc - Therefore, these people are not the real poor people who may be earning 50p a day for backbreaking work

I'm all for immigration - we too had considered the USA and Portugal but stayed in the UK. I welcome those who want to come to our country but in my judgement, these people must be scrended just like those people who come to Englland via legal routes

No I don't in answer to your original question in the title.

No.

I think the Tories cornered that particular market.

Nice try though. Not.

JFC. No.

I think you need to do some reading about what an illegal immigrant is.

Is that you Suella?

Illegal immigration doesn't bother me, it is a drop in the ocean.

Legal migration, more specifically the unprecedented levels over the last few years, is what is causing the rising social cohesion and infrastructure problems. Over 700000 per year net migration is unsustainable.

The houses can never be built to keep up with demand.

The threshold for earnings needs to be drastically increased and the number of dependants allowed very reduced.

I have no faith that Labour will stop this. I have no faith that the Conservatives will stop this. All political parties seem to have agreed that this short sighted scheme is the solution to falling birth rates and the desperate need for the economy to grow, grow, grow.

Instead of improving UK people's lives so they feel able to have more children, they will just keep importing a labour force that will accept the low wages, decline in living and social conditions, because it is better than what they had at home.

I'm glad you're all for immigration because we've had a lot more of it since Brexit.

The tories have really opened the gates.

migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/long-term-international-migration-flows-to-and-from-the-uk/

I was in a war-torn country and wanted to escape persecution etc. I would leave the country WITH MY FAMILY

The wives and children are usually not able to make that difficult journey. It's too dangerous. The men come first to claim asylum and then bring their families in a safe and legal way. .

Oh

Another thread whose only aim is to get an alarmist, anti-Labour title high up on the trending list 😴

You are overdoing it IMO and would sway more voters with more subtle arguments and less outlandish claims.

No, I also suggest you go and look up the UK number percentages in both a global and a European context and stop believing all the media shite you read.

I absolutely agree with you. The cohesion and drop in social conditions are spot on.

I don’t think the potential migrants really consider details such as government changes. They are in a world where the traffickers run the show. Word of mouth will determine which country they try for.

There is a vast number of people (young men) trying for a better life. The UK gets some. It keeps us busy and stops us being able to take in genuine refugees.

Yes of course it’s not fair. Yes of course they should be stopped from ‘fleeing’ 😏 from France. Will be interesting to see what Labour do but nothing makes a difference really. Except the weather

Loving OP’s confidence about how she would act if a war broke out.

Also the idea that so many people are “only” coming for a better financial future.

As if anyone deliberately made choices that would do nothing but leave them WORSE off financially.

No, I do not. The rest of your post just shows you do not know much about what you are talking about.

No, but there will definitely be an increase in threads from this OP.

The reason why the men come over by themselves is because it is so dangerous. Many women and children that leave their countries don’t make it to us. Rape, torture… everything you wouldn’t want for yourself.

”Boat people” Jesus Christ! Our country was one of the leaders in making these international laws around asylum seekers. It is not illegal. “Let we forget” is a joke - we have forgotten.

No. HTH.

That should say “lest”

No.

HTH

This!

Labour will decrease illegal migration because they’ll just make it legal. They are the ones that signed us up to the freedom of movement stuff that led to mass migration across Europe.

i simply can not understand how anyone with a conscience can blithely agree that it’s a good thing to bring in migrants from other countries to pay them shit wages and get them to do the jobs that the existing population won’t do because they are awful and somehow call themselves left wing.

No, and we really have very much fewer immigrants than other places.

Any government could stop about half the boats by opening up a visa for construction sector workers as quite a lot of people on them are Albanian blokes who want to work as builders and tradesmen and who we frankly need because the construction industry can't get the numbers it needs without such workers being able to move around easily.

We need to stop 'stopping' immigration and start thinking about we can make it work for everyone.

Maybe learn how to spell 'illegal' too. HTH.

Oh dear god. Not another one of these Tory bullshit posts. Why is something the Tories have failed catastrophically on suddenly Labour's fault? Please go away and make a list of the Tories achievements over the past 14 years other than tanking the economy, leading us into a disastrous Brexit, destroying our public services all whilst lining their own pockets and those of their mates. Are we going to have to put up with this claptrap until the election? Roll on getting rid of the most incompetent, dishonest, corrupt, self-serving and damaging government ever. I despair that people can still peddle nonsense in their favour. Can they not see the holes in their own pocket and the ruins around them? Turkeys voting for Christmas.

KS was very clear 😂 that crossing the channel in boats is not acceptable. He wouldn't answer when pressed about alternatives.

Unfortunately Tony Blair ruined the publics trust over immigration when he stopped working barriers to eastern European believing only a few thousand people would come.

I've never spoken to or heard anyone say they don't want immigrants in UK.
People just want people to be vetted and go through a process.
I want public faith restored in our immigration controls and then the UK would be a more accepting place for everyone.

Oh come on, “illeagle” is a great word 😂