Do you feel there will be an increase in illegal immigrants with a Labour government

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What is Labour's plan to stop the boat people? How will this stop those who want to come to England via channel crossings illegally??

What in your opinion is encouraging the boat/channel crossing illeagle immigrants to want to come to England even though they are already is a very safe and generous nation?

IMO, most that come to England now, the vast majority are young men looking for a better financial future. My opinion is based on the basis that if I was in a war-torn country and wanted to escape persecution etc. I would leave the country WITH MY FAMILY and would be grateful once in a safe country and not risk our helth/lift etc crossing the channel in small dingys.

So, do you feel that potential illegal immigrants are just hoping that Labour gets into power as they are seen as a softer touch??

We. ie my parents and siblings came to England in the early 60's from Asia via legal routes as England need workers - parents rented a room and built up their wealth from there.

FYI: If you go abroad, lets say to China/India/Newzealand/etc for a hols, fall in love with someone and want to marry them - just check out the criteria that you have to meet to sponsor a visa and then the massive costs for them to come over and then become a Brtish cotozen after 5 years of good standing - the person coming over is entitled to nothing other than access to NHS and this is allowed as the person/s coming over undergo strict medical tests - therefore very unfair on those wanting to come to England via legal routes

England needs skilled and unskilled workers and those who are coming over legally go through many tests before being allowed here and massive costs. It is very unfair to allow the boat people etc to settle in England when they have already entered a safe nation IMO

IMO, we created the stife in Afhghransatan, Libya, Syria and Iraq along with our boss the good old USA

People, and families do not help in war-torn nations and the very poor nations - most that come over illegally from the poorer, very poorer parts of the world pay thousands to gangs etc - Therefore, these people are not the real poor people who may be earning 50p a day for backbreaking work

I'm all for immigration - we too had considered the USA and Portugal but stayed in the UK. I welcome those who want to come to our country but in my judgement, these people must be scrended just like those people who come to Englland via legal routes

When has it been "uncontrolled" other than when we were in the EU and as we in England were free to go and live in the EU, they too could do that

What I disagree with and its stopped, its the families that students could bring over.
Re professions and general labour, they have the right to bring their family over ie dependants otherwise most would not bother coming to England

So you are saying this kind of thing does not happen with our louts, born and bred in England??
OF course it does!!

Our lot in Spain - check out how the poor local ppl in certain resorts are having to endure night after night, totally pissed louts spewing up on the streets, in cabs, half dressed, fighting, sleeping on pavements - or you not aware of that?

So it was now "not one incidence."!!!! You post referred/implied "one incidence and that is a fact

Are there ANY OTHER incidences of this nature??

Tory bots are busy again, is that you Rishi?;

Please don't hurt yourself by drawing back up the bridge too quickly OP

I was assaulted in Brussels and mugged in Manchester.
By lowlife scum.
Not by the entire country of Belgium or the entire city of Manchester.

Was the person who assaulted you foreign? How do you know? Were they <shock and shudder> brown ?

Thoughts and prayers Hun.

Are people ignoring what we've seen in the EU. Remember Sweden.

We cannot afford to clear brownfield sites for housing. Many won't be where people need to live and the cost is massive if they are contaminated. We need local councils to accept more housing proposals and understand that our prosperity depends on it. No homes, no workers.

Great post/response. Thanks!!

@IClaudine people like you are evidence. Labour voters want open borders or many more immigrants to come. Some even say fit and healthy are coming to do the jobs and is the elderly and sick here who are the problem. So yes we do not trust Labour at all on this. In fact Rwanda has been blocked but other European countries would do similar.

@MrsTerryPratchett · Today 14:53 Racists? Why do you feel the need to make such a claim about people? Is it to shut up the debate or to feel superior? Racist is not a word to be thrown casually like that.

He [Starmer] fully supports & believes in open borders & uncontrolled mass immigration

I asked for evidence of this. No one, including you @Bululu has provided it. All you have done is assume things about me.

So, I ask again. Where is the proof that Starmer supports uncontrolled mass immigration?

Don't you want your Human Rights defended? you know right to a fair trial, education, freedom to vote, to protest, freedom of speech? maternity rights? employment rights>

No i guess not.

Sunak has trebled legal migration, yet we still have workforce shortages, how much more will he increase it by if he gets back in????

At least Labour have a plan to get x channel migration down and to boost nhs workforce with people already here.

We would be drowning on a sea of them and some of them criminals

What a lovely way to describe your fellow human beings @Bululu

Have you been drinking OP? What an illiterate post.

No

Labours plan is to enhance and speed up the processing centres. Returning anyone illegal and supporting those who have a legal right while treating them as human beings

As I said the evidence is the fact that to appease people like you he would turn a blind eye. Also, his past as a human rights lawyer is in itself evidence of what his views are. Labour voters are calling for open borders and making a drama about schemes to deter immigrants. Deny you aren’t.

Lol no we are not, workable schemes? yes, click bait ones that dont work? no.

Starmer was in fact a criminal defence lawyer first, you know the sort of person you might need if wrongly accused of a crime.....

‘What a lovely way to describe your fellow human beings’ I do not have any sympathy for criminal gangs coming here under false pretence. If you do you fine but do not expect others to hold your views.

No, and they're not illegal immigrants - there is no other way of claiming asylum in the UK other than arriving by sea. Labour might work with France to give them a chance to apply en-route which has been refused by the tories.

So you have no evidence of Starmer's desire for "uncontrolled immigration",then?

I am currently a somewhat floating voter, btw. I have not made an absolute final decision.

So why do 80% of those who apply for asylum get it if they're criminals and coming under false pretenses? stop believing the tory/reform party hate narrative and actually look at the simple facts.

The government could stop the boats tomorrow and France has offered a simple solution but that doesn't suit the Tories.

(also you'll find we need immigration and lots of it to pay for all these triple-locked pensions in years to come)