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WarriorN · 19/09/2023 13:50

@swimsong

"Rasputin mode" appears to be stating he's "volatile" as he used to be a drug addict and flipping the tone completely.

WarriorN · 19/09/2023 13:59

"My personality type is not well suited to that kind of environment of boring annoying ness"

In his ott reaction to being called out for being a hypocrite as he lives in very expensive houses while supporting a campaign about affordable housing in London.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 19/09/2023 14:00

Oy

written by Marina Hyde in 2009 of Brand and Ross’s heeeelarious phone calls

The world can now be divided into people who genuinely think caring about this crap is important, and people you might wish to know socially.

who’d want to know socially someone who thinks misogyny is bad? How tiresome they must be eh?

AdamRyan · 19/09/2023 14:06

WarriorN · 19/09/2023 07:42

Wow, good for Katherine Ryan - that was brave. She basically ran him off television.

She did didn't she. Bloody hell.

He got one last genital cake in before he went.

This isn't just about him; this is about sexual abuse being allowed to happen on a grand scale.

It's coming down to safeguarding (again) and the complete lack of it.

Oh come now. Women over the age of 16 don't need safeguarding, everyone knows what highly sexed creatures men are and should manage their behaviour appropriately #sarcasm

WarriorN · 19/09/2023 14:06

ArabeIIaScott · 19/09/2023 12:41

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-66849965

Channel 4 removed some content at the weekend, including an episode of Celebrity Bake Off

That cake?

WarriorN · 19/09/2023 14:07

Women over the age of 16 don't need safeguarding

Some of the replies under women's hour twitter are illuminating

AdamRyan · 19/09/2023 14:11

I'm not sure I can stomach it. Am already very fed up with people saying that an adult woman reflecting in whether her 16 year old self could consent being an example of "regretful sex". I'm pretty much incandescent. There is nowhere that illustrates the patriarchy more than how sexual abuse of women is tolerated and enabled by all our culture, legal and social systems.

SheilaFentiman · 19/09/2023 14:14

Thanks @beastlyslumber

When Marina said "centred" I think she meant something centred on defending GB - from this quote - "but I couldn’t find a single column centred on defending Baillie in any contemporaneous newspaper."

Agree she/her editor has downplayed her GB points,

ArabeIIaScott · 19/09/2023 14:15

Helena Fucking Kennedy.

ArabeIIaScott · 19/09/2023 14:18

Christ alscreaming Mighty.

'Old women are obsessed about denying young women access to older men for dating. It is because the old women are jealous of the younger women. The old women are oppressing the younger women.'

Twitter comment.

I'm quite keen on denying older men access to younger, more vulnerable women, random Twit. Because I'm not mad keen on abuse. HTH.

nettie434 · 19/09/2023 16:11

ArabeIIaScott · 19/09/2023 14:18

Christ alscreaming Mighty.

'Old women are obsessed about denying young women access to older men for dating. It is because the old women are jealous of the younger women. The old women are oppressing the younger women.'

Twitter comment.

I'm quite keen on denying older men access to younger, more vulnerable women, random Twit. Because I'm not mad keen on abuse. HTH.

Is that what Helena said, Arabella? I am trying to go through her twitter/x feed but I can only see a few posts.

Older women are jealous of younger women is number 1 in the misogynists play book, certainly not something a human right lawyer should say.

AlisonDonut · 19/09/2023 16:19

Are we finally seeing someone that should have been cancelled fucking years ago, being actually cancelled? And not for opinions but actual behaviour?

ArabeIIaScott · 19/09/2023 17:02

nettie434 · 19/09/2023 16:11

Is that what Helena said, Arabella? I am trying to go through her twitter/x feed but I can only see a few posts.

Older women are jealous of younger women is number 1 in the misogynists play book, certainly not something a human right lawyer should say.

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No, sorry, I should have been clearer! Some random MRA on Twitter.

nettie434 · 19/09/2023 17:39

Thanks for clarifying, Arabella. Such a rubbish analysis.

ArabeIIaScott · 19/09/2023 17:44

I just have that automatic response when I see Baroness Kennedy.

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JenniferBooth · 19/09/2023 20:21

A timely release this week is My Lady Parts A Life Fighting Stereotypes by Doon Mackichan. Doon was in Brass Eye and Smack The Pony. This book is about the sexism and blatant stereotyping she has endured in the world of both comedy and drama. There is also a four page feature with some of these experiences in this months Red.

https://www.waterstones.com/book/my-lady-parts/doon-mackichan/9781838856366

WarriorN · 20/09/2023 16:46

ArabeIIaScott · 18/09/2023 17:22

God save us from 'spiritual' men. Present in every religion.

Buddhist. Dennis Lingwood (Friends of the Western Buddhist Order, now Triratna, largest Buddhist school in the UK).

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jul/21/sangharakshita-guru-triratna-buddhist-dark-secrets

Christian. So many Catholic priests, including Fr Denis "Chrysostom" Alexander, just to pick a recent UK one:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-58174091

Muslim. Adnan Oktar:

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/cult-leader-who-forced-sex-28516003

Hinduism:* *Rajinder Kalia.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9485439/Cult-leader-practiced-obscure-branch-Hinduism-accused-rape.html

'New Age' - Bentinho Massaro.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bentinho_Massaro

Jewish: Daniel Ambash.

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2022-06-10/ty-article/jerusalem-ultra-orthodox-cult-leader-convicted-of-torture-and-sexual-abuse-dies-in-prison/00000181-4d08-d4f7-adff-4d7ff4790000

And of course I've just picked a few single examples. There are, depressingly, many more. Vulnerable people often seek solace in religion; predators know this very well. It's a great way to find victims and people who are easy to manipulate.

Ohhhhh ...

Have we all seen his latest tiktok?! 🤣

x.com/silviotattiscon/status/1704209878779154495?s=46&t=A2fpFNgDRyXF2d6ye97wEA

TooBigForMyBoots · 20/09/2023 19:40

That tictoc!🤯 The narcissism is strong in this one.🤣🤣🤣

ArabeIIaScott · 20/09/2023 20:01

He's going to go for an insanity plea, then.

WarriorN · 20/09/2023 20:25

Apparently a couple of day before the story dropped. Still rather telling...

I've also just seen a video where sloss was interviewed in America about 11 months ago and really pulls apart brand as far as he can legally go, "not a good man" etc. clearly knows an awful a lot and not happy about any of it.

WarriorN · 20/09/2023 20:26

JenniferBooth · 19/09/2023 20:21

A timely release this week is My Lady Parts A Life Fighting Stereotypes by Doon Mackichan. Doon was in Brass Eye and Smack The Pony. This book is about the sexism and blatant stereotyping she has endured in the world of both comedy and drama. There is also a four page feature with some of these experiences in this months Red.

https://www.waterstones.com/book/my-lady-parts/doon-mackichan/9781838856366

I'd love to read that

WarriorN · 20/09/2023 20:31

Here, 56 mins

F_
JenniferBooth · 20/09/2023 22:24

Thanks Warrior I just watched that part.

TheFirstStraw · 21/09/2023 10:04

The Times (story of our times) has a good podcast today where they talk more about the investigation. Apparently there were 14 women they were talking to at one point, but not all wanted to go ahead and be part of the story. Now the story is out, more women have come forward.
The BBC come out of this looking so shit.