Insomnia friends - I will sleep well tonight because I have told my unconscious I will

[BeckyBendyLegs]

And here it is!

Actually DH is coming around to the idea of ADs as he sees that I need a bit of a break from this stress I am putting myself under. But I've been skepitcal about them too for ages and ages (partly because I felt so crap taking fluoxitine). I've learnt a lot more about them though and recently found out my niece has taken and is back on the same sort you and CountryLover take as she says she has had big anxiety and insomnia issues. She also said, interestingly, she's never had any problems coming off them (one of my worries).

Hi all

Just thought I'd come and say hi - bit low on energy, have read through everything, looks like you all had good and bad nights.

Getdown if you need to take Zopliclone as a crutch/insurance policy then do. I would probably give them to Dh so i would have to ask for them and give him a chance to talk me down, but I've never taken anything stronger than Nytol and it is usually possible to talk me down so maybe I'm talking nonsense.

Camping trip was a great success and a boost to my self confidence, travelling to the site, pitching the big tent, helping my friend get to grips with camping, keeping everyone warm fed and happy, talking the whole thing down again and only panicking about ds once...

Nights were as usual - early to bed and sleep on and off few hours at a time until 8.

Came home yesterday all buoyed up and happy but it didn't last and I crashed last night - friend supported me and talked me down and helped me see things better and we said goodnight at 11.30 - had a brief night but slept deeply and woke up dazed! And tired.

Now dh is back which is so lovely - we had a great afternoon out walking with ds but ds is poorly now, congested and with a temp. Glad dh is back to be the voice of reason. Think ds has sinus trouble

So I'm a mixed bag. Feel very drained probably because I can stop coping now!

Sorry will do better post tomorrow.

Anyone else noticed we need a new thread soon!!

Arcadia I was put on Dosulepin because I was told I had mild depression and anxiety. At that time I was also repeatedly waking up too early and was unable to get back to sleep. After unsuccessful trials of other ADs, I was prescribed Dosulepin which has an advantage over some others in that it's sedating, so brilliant for me. I have been very well on it but now feel a bit stronger mentally so am now coming off it slowly.

Getdown sorry if I misled you slightly I haven't actually done a marathon yet but apply every year and am hoping to get in this year. Well done to your brother what an excellent time! The only time I actually managed to get a place in the London Marathon was the same year I sprained my ankle, so I was gutted.

The longest run I've done so far was The Great South Run which was 10 miles. It rained solidly throughout, but it was fantastic to make it to the end.

welcome back madmouse so glad that the camping was a success - you are a brave lady! Sorry little DS is ill, but glad to see his temp has come down a bit now. YEs we will need a new thread soon, I wonder who can come up with the best new title:
"Insomnia friends - we will not be beaten" ?

"Insomnia friends - we like PSTs" ?

"Insomnia friends - we don't look at the clock" ?

"Insomnia friends - come and commiserate and or congratulate" ?

orangeflutie - not misleading me at all, I must have just read it and not taken it in properly. I'm sure you will get to do the marathon some day. My brother took ages to get in at first - he had to run for a charity. Now his time is so good, he automatically gets a place! He's mad though, he did the trans-alpine run which was basically a marathon a day for eight days straight, up and down the alps and across 4 countries

Insomnia friends - beating the sleepless nights together ?

I like that Madmouse it sounds really positive:) I've been awake for over 2hours now so have come downstairs for a bit. I woke up hot, feeling a bit sick. Hope I'm not coming down with anything.

I've just eaten a piece of toast in the hope it will make me sleepy. Really don't want to be awake now as I've got to rush around this morning getting dds ready for school and then I go to work.

I'm going to go back upstairs and try again, another hour would be good.

oh dear orangeflutie Hope you got some sleep in the end.

Bad night for me

I was lying wide awake till 1:30am! Despite being tired, it just wasn't "sleepy tired" if you know what I mean.

DH eventually got up and made me a decaff tea and we sat and read our books together for a while. Even then I still really struggled.

Got a few hours sleep I think, but woke up with a start at 6:50 feeling really anxious, and had toilet troubles too

Oh dear.

Orangeflutie and Getdown sorry you had such bad nights

Hope the sun shines where you are like it does here and that it helps your mood!

Not a great night here either, went up too late and kept checking on ds in the night who had a high fever and is still warm - think it may be sinus bother.

Plus the only drawback to dh being back: blinds and door shut again at night (I sleep with everything open - keeps me calmer). Lovely he's here though, had tea in bed and lots of cuddles

Off to my first counseling session in a month!!

Morning guys.

GetDown what are we going to do with you? You are a silly sausage! I relate to the toilet troubles - anxiety gives me terrible toilet troubles. What are you doing today? Are you at work or home? You will be ok, you know that, don't you? You are our inspiration. You helped me last weekend when I thought I was back in the January hole again (which I obviously wasn't!). Did you try Paul McKenna? I find with him that even if it doesn't work that night, it gets into my subconcious so helps me when I start sleeping better even if I don't use it again. Go get the book and re-read some of the sections. Do the 'imagine yourself not sleeping and shrinking the image' thing and the 'imagine yourself sleeping soundly' cinema thing. You will be ok :)

Madmouse your crash happened, timing wise, a bit like what happened with me when my DH was away. I coped while he was away then as soon as he got back and the stress was gone, I didn't sleep.

DS1's friend last night. Ohhhh the little tinker he is. DH and I were watching TV when we heard DS1 crying really hard. His friend was throwing books and jigsaw boxes at him all over his bed. By the time we got up there DS1 was sitting huddled on one end of his bed with tears pouring out of him and there were books and jigsaw pieces everyhwere. I very nearly packed up the little terror up there and then and drove him home.

thanks becky Sorry that you had a horrible little guest last night. Your poor DS!!! The image of him huddled in the corner crying is so sad! Hope you gave the other boy a good telling off!

I know I am a silly sausage I just don't get it. I wasn't worrying about anything in particular. Last night wasn't unusual in any way. So Why Why couldn't I sleep?

I didn't try mr mckenna, no. I should have done. But in a funny way, if I put him on now I think I am thinking "well, this is definitely a bad night now" ... so I try and put it off. Silly I know. I do need to revisit the book. I did try and imagine my circle of friends all sitting round yawning, and I also did the thought streaming and the slow monotonous internal voice, but all to no avail. I seriously considered coming downstairs and wailing on here.... but didn't in the end.

I'm at home today thankfully no work today. Got a friend coming at 10. She's got a brand new baby, so think she will be a bit if I moan about my bad night!!!

"But in a funny way, if I put him on now I think I am thinking "well, this is definitely a bad night now" ... so I try and put it off. Silly I know."

Me too! I thought I was being silly thinking like this! How funny we are?

Be kind to yourself today. It is only one day. That's how I get through bad days I think 'I only have to last until bedtime and that's not that long!' You will definitely sleep well tonight after two not so good nights.

I can't wait to get rid of DS1's friend. Postman Pat has just been thrown in the toilet. Does he does this sort of thing at home???

Had my friend over this morning and we had a nice time. Feeling really tired now.

Dishwasher supposed to be here between 8-12. No sign.

Hi

Have just got home from work, luckily I finished a bit early but so far haven't felt as bad as I thought I would today. I did manage to get another hour but had really weird dreams and when the alarm went off felt quite confused. I have no idea why I didn't sleep that well last night. I didn't have any coffee yesterday. I suppose the thought of my dds going back to school and the busy routine starting up again may have been on my mind.

GetDown sorry you had a bad night too, hope you have a better one tonight and you manage to get through today.

Becky I can't believe how awful your DS's friend was. Having said that though sometimes girls are not much better. My middle dd had a sleepover earlier this year and one friend was really disruptive and quite cheeky to DH and me. We decided there and then that she would be a friend for tea only!

Madmouse hope your counselling goes well today.

Hi there orangeflutie it's rubbish feeling this tired isn't it?

I just slumped down on the sofa and DD came up to me and asked if I was all right (she's 2).

I said, "well, mummy didn't sleep very well and I am very tired"

she said "oh dear" and gave me a big cuddle I love her.

Then she said "do you think you ought to have a wee?"

2 year olds!!

I'm feeling really quite bad now. Really sick, can't face food even though am feeling a bit shakey...

I'm not going to let this beat me though. I have a meal out tonight with some mum friends, and I'm still going to go. I think "carry on as normal" is the best thing.

Hope everyone is ok xx

GetDown that is the attitude. Carry on as normal. Do you remember when I went to a party after a night of two hours' sleep recently? I stayed until 11.30pm and was in bed at midnight. I was exhuasted but had a lovely, lovely time and didn't think about sleep at all all evening and then went to bed thinking 'I'm shakey with tiredness' but I did sleep a solid seven hours.

Your DD sounds so sweet - if only a wee solved tiredness!

We've been to this place called Wonderland today - hot sun, funfair rides, excited children - I am very tired now. I get back and DH (who is working at home today) has forgotten to take the wheelie bin out (today is bin day and the next collection is two weeks today), he's left his lunch pots and pans out, and not unloaded the dishwasher. I'm trying not to fume.

oh becky! DH needs a stern "I am disappointed in you" look....

Thanks, yes I think I must go tonight. Won't be much company though, I don't feel very chatty

do you think I should take a zopiclone tonight?

Getdown what do you need a zopiclone for??

There is absolutely no reason for you not to sleep soundly tonight. Put mr McKenna by your bedside table in case so you won't have to go far for it, have a nice time tonight, take your mind off sleeping business and you will be fine x

GetDown I know why you are thinking you need one - it takes the worry out of getting to sleep, but after two bad nights you will sleep tonight. You absolutely will. I never think I will after bad nights but I always do. You will sleep xxx

Having said that though do what you feel is right for you. I'll send you happy sleepy vibes tonight.

thanks madmouse it;s just I am so very tired. Not thinking straight probably.

I'm off out now, have nice evenings everyone.

thanks becky too x

I wasn't able to post earlier as my dds have been on the computer on and off most of the evening playing 'Moshi Monsters'. We only have one computer in our house sadly and it seems to be in great demand.

Hope everyone has a good night tonight. I'm not sure what will happen for me tonight sleepwise as have only taken 25mg Dosulepin tonight, so will have to wait and see.

anyone still up watch BBC1 now!

Getdown they are talking about dropping core body temperature helping with sleep!!

excellent! I have read about that too, that's why i've been jogging, because of the body temp thing.

Had a really nice evening. Feeling very tired, but not sure about sleepy.

x