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To think that infidelity is sometimes justifiable

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MarianaMonterey · 01/04/2024 16:25

Not ok. And not forgiveable by you personally. But can you conceive of circumstances that seem so bleak, you’d choose to yourself or at least think ‘yeah, I can understand that’ of someone else.

Yes, it’s me. I’m the other woman. I didn’t know he was married. But I was already in a place so desolate before I found out, I don’t think I can now face walking away. If you knew I had so little that an affair looked better than nothing, would you still view me with contempt or could you find compassion?

Please be kind. I am not in crisis, but I am very, very close. It’s humiliating, but it’s real. I just can’t go one more day when no one thinks of me at all. I‘m facing big physical health, mental health, work, child and financial issues and I just don’t think I can put someone else first right now. I’m hoping with some support from the wrong person I make it through to later when I can make better choices. I don’t yet know how, but it’s the only future I can see. It’s not that I can’t handle the break up itself. It’s that I can’t handle it on top of everything else. It’s just one loss too many, and after decades of getting by on not nearly enough.

Leave him out of it. It’s not about him. Don’t tell me I’m strong enough, that it’s not as bad as I think or that I deserve better. It makes no difference. I can’t believe those things into being. It’s better than nothing. And no one deserves nothing, surely? I’m so done. This is no life. [Redacted by MNHQ]

OP posts:
BurnoutGP · 01/04/2024 18:03

kitsuneghost · 01/04/2024 17:40

I think too much is made of infidelity.
There are bigger things in life to be concerned with.
Being upset with infidelity shows insecurity imo.

Am guessing you've never been cheated on. Proper betrayal, lies and gaslighting. As an adult with a family and a life which was all shown to be a lie.
Or you're a sociopath with no emotions

kitsuneghost · 01/04/2024 18:07

TheFormidableMrsC · 01/04/2024 17:58

Bollocks. It's life ruining. Take it from me.

Only if you let it

5128gap · 01/04/2024 18:07

Its not really better than nothing, it's worse. With nothing you have peace. You're not on pins waiting for a message, devastated if it doesn't come. With nothing you don't have to worry if not only are you a person who is hurting, but also one who is causing hurt. With nothing you don't have your pride on the floor knowing you're enabling a man to have two relationships while you make do with half a one. With nothing, you have nothing to lose so you don't need to fear the future, and can reach rock bottom and start climbing up again.

LadyTiredWinterBottom2 · 01/04/2024 18:12

You understand that he has lied to you seen you are vulnerable and is using you?

He isn't helping you, he is helping himself. You will only end up feeling worse, so put your bug girl pants on and end it.

BurnoutGP · 01/04/2024 18:14

I'm guessing all those who think cheating isn't a big deal are cheaters and not been cheated on.

Multicolouredwebs · 01/04/2024 18:18

Any woman I know who has done this regardless of the circumstances and the reasons why, has been perceived by everyone who knows as a total bitch, with the women disassociating themselves from the affair but on the side.

breakfastdinnerandtea · 01/04/2024 18:22

You're a willing participant in potentially ruining someone's life. How is this justifiable?

BiggerBoat1 · 01/04/2024 18:22

Of course its not ok. I suspect you know that.

This man will never be the answer - he's a liar and a cheat.

MorningSunshineSparkles · 01/04/2024 18:25

what you mean is you don’t have a man to think about you daily, not that you don’t have anyone at all that things about you daily. You have a child, they think about you daily. You’re worth more than a man’s attention.

Idontknowwhattodo78 · 01/04/2024 18:31

Op, you are obviously massively vulnerable, which is why you’ve ended up with this half wit, married, lying, shagger.
if we ignore what is best for his actual wife (and I’ve been her. It’s beyond fucking brutal). This is not good, for you. There is literally no legitimate reason you would put yourself second. Or willingly be party to something that you KNOW will hurt someone else. At the end of the day, you will NEVER have peace because you know that what you are doing is wrong. No excuses, no maybes….it is shit and you know it. And you will NEVER feel good about yourself until you stop. So stop. Today. You are an adult and you have the choice. Stop it now, and if you don’t? You only have yourself to blame. Choose better, from today.

ThreePointOneFourOneFiveNine · 01/04/2024 18:33

kitsuneghost · 01/04/2024 17:40

I think too much is made of infidelity.
There are bigger things in life to be concerned with.
Being upset with infidelity shows insecurity imo.

That sounds a lot like sort of thing you'd expect from a cheat who's trying to gaslight their partner. "It's your insecurity that's the problem" 🙄

StormingNorman · 01/04/2024 18:35

Never justified. Think of the wife and family you are devastating. Does that solve your problems?

StormingNorman · 01/04/2024 18:37

Caffeineneedednow · 01/04/2024 16:29

My concern would always be how to trust him.

If he started your relationship as a lie wouldn't you always be thinking in the back of your mind how long u till he cheats on me?

You lose them how you got them as the saying goes.

MehNotSure · 01/04/2024 18:38

I was unwillingly OW , he didn't tell me he was married until after we had sex. He causally wrote me a text " not sure whether i told you but im married "
I immediately walked away and was tempted to tell his wife. But i just felt too betrayed and mugged off and wanted to put it behind me .

My advice is to stop affair , it will end in tears either way . You deserve better then to be a side piece to a married man OP
x

Menomeno · 01/04/2024 18:38

No matter how bad you think you’re feeling, you’re making his wife feel even worse.

StormingNorman · 01/04/2024 18:41

CharlotteCollinsneeLucas · 01/04/2024 16:34

I'm sorry you're in such a bad place.

You're not being unfaithful, though. He is. So your question is misdirected, really.

That doesn’t give the OP a free pass to carry on regardless. Once you know you’re the mistress it’s your moral responsibility to end it. You don’t have to be a gutter rat because the bloke you’re shagging is.

StormingNorman · 01/04/2024 18:43

FrancisSeaton · 01/04/2024 16:39

But it doesn't make her 'equally to blame' at all^^

It does once she knows the situation.

SmokedPaprikaPuffs · 01/04/2024 18:46

You can't trust him anymore than his wife can.
Time to rely on yourself.

StormingNorman · 01/04/2024 18:47

MartinsSpareCalculator · 01/04/2024 17:28

What I think is that things are rarely clear cut or black and white. I've known many many people who've been unfaithful to differing degrees. Some just because they could, but were absolutely the minority.

The others have included women in arranged marriages, men and women in abusive relationships, men in very unhappy relationships who didn't want to leave because they didn't want to not see their children every day, women with low self esteem who responded to flattery, those who were in varying states of drunkenness, a woman whose husband was in the throes of dementia etc.

Sometimes it's quite easy to understand and justify. Sometimes good decent people do things which are neither good nor decent.

Good people don’t intentionally hurt other people.

Axx · 01/04/2024 18:49

Sorry but now you know he's married, if you choose to continue it would be with contempt.

You're worth so much more than a life as a side piece x

Messagetoyou · 01/04/2024 18:50

It’s never ok and I would question the moral compass of someone who would get involved with someone who was married. You may not have known at first (he either lied or lied by omission) but you know now. Don’t be that woman. Be a champion of other women. Raise your bar.

Sideorderofchips · 01/04/2024 18:52

No you can not make yourself feel better about it by saying its justifiable

It's not.

Eleganz · 01/04/2024 18:54

I've yet to come across a situation where infidelity makes things better. There seems to be this myth of the "exit affair" that somehow gives someone the strength to leave a marriage. Often this strength is only found when the affair is discovered however.

My view is that affairs are addictive, they create a big rush beyond many "normal" relationships and so are a hard habit to break. But like other addictions, they are not healthy behaviour.

So, OP, do yourself a favour and stop being the other woman, for your own sake if not for anyone else's.

RickyGervaislovesdogs · 01/04/2024 18:55

I’m sorry for all that you are dealing with. You deserve so much more OP.

It sounds like it’s dead in the water, putting off the inevitable, ultimately you’ll just suffer later down the line.

YellowIsTheSun · 01/04/2024 18:57

A close friend recently found out her ‘D’H had an affair for a few months.

When he realised his marriage was at risk he called OW to dump her. She asked to ‘talk about things’ in person so he got in the car, drove a few hrs to her house where he dumped her in person. Her young son was in the house upstairs at the same time. She also let him sleep on her sofa so he didn’t have to drive back late at night. She must be either mentally unwell or have no self respect at all. He treated both DW and OW like shit, he led OW on to think he might want a relationship with her at some point (lots of messaging, dirty weekend away, went to her house and cooked her breakfast) but the truth is he would never have wanted to be with her even if he was single. She had crappy job, crappy house and was short/plain Jane looks/tomboyish…not someone he would have usually given a second glance to. I don’t know much about the psychology of affairs but I now see what people mean when they say they always ‘affair down’.

I pity the OW, he used her and couldn’t dump her fast enough when the bubble burst. They very rarely want to leave their wife, they just get off on the cheap thrills. He had a very ‘loving’ and sexually active relationship with his DW throughout the affair, just disgusting behaviour!!!