Could Psilocybin cure mental health issues?

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I watched a couple of really interning films this weekend. One was 'Fantastic Fungi" and another was 'Magic medicine'. Both were talking about the effects that Psilocybin can have on curing mental health.

(For anyone that does'nt know what Psilocybin is - its the active ingredient in magic mushrooms)

There was an interesting study in the U.K with macrodosing ( large quantities) and I think one is Canada has just started.

I have seen quite a few sites on macro dosing - very small doses ( not enough to get high) and people have been saying that its massively improved their lives.

Psilocybin is actually illegal in this country and thats why its been so hard to even get permission to have these trials/studies.

I am just wondering if people have heard of this or what their views on it were

Thank you

Would you possibly be able to send me a link for that?

@Caminante I can't remember who it was exactly I saw - it was a link on Instagram. The mycologists on there seem to change their names frequently and don't give away many product details I suppose for obvious reasons. I doubt I'd be allowed to post a link here but if you search for mycologist on Instagram (or anywhere for that matter) there is a lot to see!

Some info for the people asking about microdosing suppliers

www.wholecelium.com/product-category/microdosing-psilocybin/

Thanks for this. Currently not shipping to the UK unfortunately.

Ok so I’ve managed to buy some but I need a bit of courage to actually take one.

A good friend of my good friend buys them from the guy so I feel as confident as I can and I actually don’t trust myself to measure them so this is the only way for me right now. BUT - despite popping benzos and z-drugs without a thought, and cocaine and amphetamines in my past - psychedelics are my scary spot.

My friend has offered to come over and sit with me but she’s super busy right now and also, I feel like I’d like to relax alone with some music rather than be chatting. I don’t know…It’s a conundrum. Ideally, I wouldn’t live alone and could have the best of both worlds but that’s not where we are.

He made me little 0.15s (he usually sells 0.2s) so I feel better about starting with that but yeah…I just need a bit of reassurance if any is going spare!

For context, it’s been a long time since I’ve felt happy and well so I really do want to try them as I’ve had no success getting myself to a good place via other means.

If it's any reassurance, I don't feel any trippiness at all from 0.15. I feel completely normal, able to go to work etc. I personally only start to get the vaguest hints of trippiness at about 0.5g. Maybe you could start with half of a 0.15 dosage, just to reassure yourself that it's okay?

Thanks, @SobranieCocktail! That’s good to hear.

I think I just need to bite the bullet as I know 0.15 is super low.

Is there anything in particular that you're worried about happening?

@SobranieCocktail I think just ending up tripping and doing something daft (probably more in the outside world, not the flat!). But at the same time, rationally I know I won’t trip with a microdose.

I do this sometimes when I take things for the first time - I used to have to calm myself down when I took a zopiclone or ambien because I’d worry that I’d be one of those people trying to climb out the window in my sleep. 😂

Thank you for taking the time to reassure me.

Yeah, I understand that. I was nervous too, and I fearlessly enjoyed psychedelics a few times when I was young.

I think one of the positive side effects of taking mushrooms (especially when I've gone a bit larger than a microdose) is that I've taken some time to prepare myself and my environment, and actually that process in itself can feel really good and "healing". Eg I've set aside some properly free time (rather than having free time where I'm half expecting myself to be productive), and given my home a good cleaning, taken the bins out, chosen some comfy clothes etc. It might be good to do this sort of thing at microdose level too, not because you'll be incapacitated, but because you need a bit of looking after when you're nervous 😊

@SobranieCocktail Good idea. I had been thinking along the same lines - get myself a nice ‘den’ and a good playlist together, clear anything pressing on my to-do list, etc.

Thanks again for the reassurance. I don’t know when I became such a worrier!

Sounds good to be cautious the first time. But if it’s a very low dose then that’s a good place to start.

I still haven’t gotten myself on the MDing (but I think Saturday is the day) however, I just wanted to alert you all to a new series on Netflix about psychedelics. Can’t recall the name right now but I feel like it’s How To Change Your Mind or something. It’s not about microdosing but what I’ve watched so far is interesting nonetheless! I figured it might be of interest to this group. 🙂

oh, thanks, will watch. i haven't done it yet either. But, I have found someone who knows about all this stuff and I think I'll have a chat with her.

Sounds interesting. I’ll check it out.

Just checking in to see how everyone's getting on. I'm still microdosing but very intermittently. Still massively reduced my alcohol consumption, and have had more energy and courage to embark on some interesting CPD training. I'm also finding it frustrating that I just don't have space in my life for another "proper" trip. Or at least I don't want to do it alone, and the people who might want to trip with me would be doing it with "party" intentions, rather than a more "sacred"/serious experience.

Looking at this website someone posted before

www.wholecelium.com/shop/microdosing-psilocybin/microdosing-xp-psilocybin-strip/

It says the truffle is 1gram, maybe I’m being really dumb but most people are saying a 0.5g is the smaller dose? Can someone clarify, as I really want to try microdosing but want to start very small because I’ve never taken any drugs ever not even weed lol.

TIA

I’ve name changed since posting before. I’ve not started yet but am currently readin the book How to Change Your Mind. Thought of you lot.

I know someone who is microdosing and getting it off someone else who prepares it. So I think I’ll ask them about it.

I think the Psychedelic Society might have some events, not sure exactly what. A lot of it looks a bit too far out for me but I like the look of some of the breathwork stuff which also induces a psychedelic experience but just through breathing weirdly.

I feel like I couldn't have stumbled on this thread at a better time.

My depression and anxiety has ramped up recently, to the point where I found myself being sectioned for 24 hours.

I've been on sertraline for nearly a year, on other SSRI's before then. I have had extensive counselling, diagnosed with PTSD, depression, anxiety.

Basically I need a new avenue to improve my life and give me a chance of not ending up as a suicide case.

When I start microdosing do I stay on my SSRI? I'm only wondering one shuts the brain down and one opens it up so how do they work together?

I have no idea about taking two things at once. It’s hard coz you can’t even really ask a doctor.

Yes, I'm wondering if I should come off the antidepressants first

I guess my completely uneducated opinion is: that if you want to come off antidepressants then you should talk to doc about it. But that to come off them in the hope that microdosing will work, is a bit risky if you are at the point of being suicidal without the antidepressants.

What do you think? Are the meds currently helping? Or not?

But I agree with you that it’s probably better to be on one or the other and not both. You don’t know what the interactions between them could be

I don't think they are helping because I've had a relapse. I wouldn't come off of them without talking to my Dr as I want to do that properly but everything I'm reading about microdosing just seems like I'll finally get freedom in my mind

You can talk to your doctor. Honestly, i'm not a medic but work in mental health and we ask people about what they're taking and many tell us - there's no judgement and it just helps us advise appropriately.