Could Psilocybin cure mental health issues?

[Lockedoorsopen]

NC

I watched a couple of really interning films this weekend. One was 'Fantastic Fungi" and another was 'Magic medicine'. Both were talking about the effects that Psilocybin can have on curing mental health.

(For anyone that does'nt know what Psilocybin is - its the active ingredient in magic mushrooms)

There was an interesting study in the U.K with macrodosing ( large quantities) and I think one is Canada has just started.

I have seen quite a few sites on macro dosing - very small doses ( not enough to get high) and people have been saying that its massively improved their lives.

Psilocybin is actually illegal in this country and thats why its been so hard to even get permission to have these trials/studies.

I am just wondering if people have heard of this or what their views on it were

Thank you

@SobranieCocktail

Had an amazing day today. Feeling quite tired now, but it was everything I hoped for!

Brilliant! I'm glad for you ❤️

Just a quick update. I've been microdosing for a couple of weeks now, and have been noticing some significant positive changes, although weirdly not the ones I was expecting! My original intention was to find something that helped creativity, and helped me feel less "rigid" mentally (those two things go hand in hand IMO).

I've been taking about 0.15g every three days, and have noticed that I've generally been much more active and sociable. It's like some sort of procrastination "block" has dissolved, and I'm also not overthinking things. I've noticed myself smiling more, and just enjoying my day to day life. I should add that I didn't think I had any problem with mood before, so this wasn't on my wish list for improvements!

I've tried slightly adjusting the dosage, and noticed that when I went up to 0.18-0.2g I felt a bit more relaxed and sightly heavy for a couple of hours (but then would feel more active and social again). There doesn't seem to be any benefit to me in a larger microdose though.

I haven't been more creative (eg with my music making hobby), which is I guess a bit disappointing.

The biggest thing I've noticed (and again, this wasn't something i was wanting to change) is that my beer consumption had reduced massively. I was typically drinking 1-2 beers per night, so probably just over the recommended max units. I was fine with this, and it felt like a nice treat at the beginning of the evening. But for the last two weeks, I've felt completely indifferent about having a beer. I haven't gone off it, but I've noticed that I didn't have that same sense of pleasurable anticipation, and if I do have one it takes me ages to drink it, and I have no desire for a second one (whereas usually I'd have a bit of a "should I shouldn't I?" tussle in my head). I reckon my beer consumption has more than halved, and tbh I'm having an occasional beer more for DH's benefit, so he's not drinking alone. Anyway, I suppose that's an unintentional benefit!

That sounds really promising @SobranieCocktail . How is your grow going?

@Lockedoorsopen

I agree big Pharma would lose massive amounts of money

Why? Before the regulators will allow it to be legally used it will have to undergo safety and efficacy tests and be produced to Good Manufacturing Practice Standards. This costs tens of millions and isn't going to be something a street dealer can suddenly do to get his wares into the clinic. I'm sure that Big Pharmacy is either working on it or have had a look and found it not to be viable or have found another hallucinogen which does the same job for less cost or does a better job.

I'm still microdosing, and it's going so well. I'm amazed. I didn't think I was feeling that bad before, but it's like a weight (that I didn't know I was carrying) has been lifted. I'm finding it so much easier just to get on with stuff that I would usually slightly dread or overthink.

If you can imagine that doing a task requires you to "open a door", the doors were previously stiff and heavy, and now they're easy to open.

My alcohol consumption is a tenth of what it was. I'm only drinking a token glass of beer every now and then just to be companionable.

I'm much less interested in my phone, and much more interested in books and learning/research.

It's honestly been incredible.

That sounds amazing! Inspiring me to try it @SobranieCocktail... might have to be a project for this year.

It sounds great. I’m kind of put off by the technicalities of the growing though. Is there an easier way to do it? Has anyone tried the liquid you buy online?

I got an all in one growbag with a syringe of spores. Not at all technical, but you need some patience.

That sounds good. ghostpants is very impressive but looks like it might be advanced level growing.

This is so interesting! I would love to give it a go

Do you dry them once you have harvested? How do you take them?

Hey all, I'm ghost pants ( previous poster) and thought I'd check in. I'm in full swing at the moment with my grows. Got the dehydrator on full blast. First photo is a bucket of Jedi mind fuck. Second is cyanensis and the third tray is a penis envy . I am still micro-dosing but inadvertently took a macro dose around two weeks ago and thought I would share. Basically it was a strain I had just got my first flush from and I wasn't expecting it to be as potent as it was.

I was watching Bridgerton and chilling after taking 7-8g of freshly harvested cyan. I blitzed it witha shot of lemon juice as this makes it a bit easier on your stomach and the effects are intensified but much shorter. I started having visuals very quickly and couldn't even focus on the tv. I went out onto my garden and lay on the sofa in my gazebo listening to the waterfall. I could see swirling rainbow fractals and my hearing was really sensitive. The trickling water sounded so complex and musical and the hallucinations moved in time with it. Then the birds started singing and without sounding dramatic ( 😁) I knew with absolute certainty that they were singing just for me. It was so beautiful laying there with the sun on my face having this private concert, I was totally overwhelmed and cried (good cry). I napped on and off and had the most vivid images in my mind of shifting sand and seeing all sorts of scenes like pyramids and mountains and the sea. Then I was starting to wake up heard a droning buzz and I got this sudden urge to take a really deep breath. It honestly felt like I'd shrunk down into a tiny little Alice in wonderland. I opened my eyes and a bumble bee the size of a basketball came towards me and accidentally bumped into me. He had a deep voice and said "Oh, sorry about that dude" and then went on his way. I sat up on the couch and the fluffy clouds parted and the sun touched me and I felt warm all over. The universe told me that I need to forgive myself , let it go and be nicer to my body. I had this huge feeling of of being squeezed and then I felt really light like I could float away. IT was beautiful but I felt overwhelming sadness and then I ugly cried. Then just suddenly started to feel better. It was the most unusual and intense 2-3 hours of my life. Absolutely memorable and perfect but a bit scary.

Anyway, it's done something to me as I was badly sexually abused as a teen and had PTSD as a result. I was supposed to have EMDR therapy but they wanted me to talk about the actual abuse and so I walked out 10 years ago and couldn't go back. The idea of talking about what he did filled me with dread and literally made me want to be sick. But I woke up a few days later and called the GP. I'm ready. I can talk about it and it doesn't hurt anymore. Is not like I'm detached either. I've just moved on? I'm sleeping better too.

@SobranieCocktail. I'm so glad it's working for you. I'm delighted.

To the poster that asked, yes I dry mine and then grind them to be put into capsules or gummies/chocolate. They weigh much less when they are fully dried as they are 90-95% water. So for 1-3 months patience you are lucky if you get 25-100g dry. But for micro dosing that will last for a good while. I prefer the effects of fresh over dried though so try to have several small tubs on the go.

Hey ghostpants. I’ve also name changed. You listening to Radio 4 now? All about psilocybin! Very positive. I researched the easy bags the other day. Still deciding what to do.

Have sent you a pm @myceliumama

Ive béen taking the Lions Mane drops. Feeling sharper than I have for ages. But also crying more than usual. Proper sobbing which is pretty rare. Might be the fact that DD1 is leaving the country for uni in a couple of months! 🤔

Do you keep taking them for ever or do you reach peak brain recovery?

@SobranieCocktail what are the micro dosing with? Very keen on a bit more motivation.

Myceliumama - your experience sounds incredible. I was really moved by it. I wish you all the very best.

Wallwobbles - I'm microdosing with psilocybe cubensis magic mushrooms. Is that what you're asking, or do you want more detail? 😊

I don't sleep well if I take mine after 11am /noon ish.

I have middle of the night anxiety which seriously affects my sleep.
So I was hoping the shrooms might help with this?
Would they?
It would be great to not crave a drink at 6pm. Have cut back so manage on just one bottle of beer but it's a battle to resist drinking more every day!

@SobranieCocktail thank you. Are you buying ready prepared or growing yourself? All details helpful. Thanks.

I managed to buy some initially, and then started growing my own.

This popped into my inbox today, in case anyone is interested:

www.imperial.ac.uk/news/235514/magic-mushroom-compound-increases-brain-connectivity/

Two studies found that treating depression with psilocybin had a continuing effect up to 3 weeks after treatment stopped, unlike conventional antidepressants, suggesting psilocybin may have the potentional to help the brain to break out of the "rut" of depression. There is a link to the paper in the article.

Thank you so much to previous posters for this thread.

My DS has been suffering from depression for a long time. I'm desperate for things that could help him, and scared every single day that he will decide he's had enough. This thread has been really informative, and I actually feel a tiny ray of optimism.

I bought a spore syringe and some uncle bens and today I got started. I just hope that they don't get contaminated and that they grow quickly. I will be counting the days.

Really interesting article. Seems like there’s so many people finding similar outcomes.

that sounds so scary for you greengoose. How old is your son? Did you watch the documentary on using psilocybin for depression?

If you can afford it then you should look into going to amsterdam. There are trip sitting services that provide magic truffles and provide a safe and secure environment to meditate/let go. I haven't been myself but they come very highly recommended if you are trying to have a proper soul searching experience. The first time I took a large dose was probably one of the most amazing times in my adult life. Without sounding dramatic the sun spoke to me and told me I needed to forgive myself. It was so profound and really changed something inside myself.

He is almost thirty. He says he's felt depressed since he was about 10.

I will look into Amsterdam, thank you for the suggestion. I'll try anything. I managed to get him to fill in a passport renewal yesterday...which was very positive. Hopefully it will come back quickly.