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Ive ruined my life

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Herbie88 · 09/07/2018 00:55

To look at me i have the perfect life. Reality is ive been planning my death for some time now. I have accrued massive debt and i cant pay a single thing back. Its all my own fault. I have 2 beautiful sons but i can barely provide for them. My hisband is useless. I done all the night feeds,nappies and baths. I do all the housework and cooking. But if one thing is wrong he goes mad. I cant tell him about the debt cos he will kill me. He has a bad temper and i dont agree with the he disciplines our children. His temper has now caused a rift in my family and him and my brother dont speak and that kills me. I feel i have no way out. If i make my death look accidental my life insurance will pay out and my family would have something that i camt give.

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Janus · 09/07/2018 23:10

No you don’t, it’s so easy to get in a pickle with money, I know at least 2 people in over 10k of debt. It just needs sitting down and working out. Please don’t blame yourself, you’ve made the first step in sorting it out, the very scariest thing is actually confronting this. You’ve done the worst bit. Please be kind to yourself.

Herbie88 · 09/07/2018 23:14

I wish my debt was 10k. I cant believe how stulid i am

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OrdinaryGirl · 09/07/2018 23:27

Herbie88 you came on Mumsnet because something in you was reaching out for help. Something in you has hope and KNOWS there is help out there or you wouldn't have posted. Just take a tiny step and reach out to Step Change.
You are not alone. Others have felt exactly as you do and have taken the step to contact someone and have come through it.
You are a mum and you did the right thing to reach out - you've done the hardest part of opening up. The next bit is just a little email or phone call to make,

You can do it! We are waving our pom-poms for you!

Janus · 09/07/2018 23:27

Actually both are way over 10k, honestly you can do this, one step at a time

balljuggla · 09/07/2018 23:37

I want to echo what other posters have said about your little ones needing you. You are priceless to them. What you are feeling now is a perfectly natural response to overwhelming stress and despair. You have nothing to be ashamed about. Absolutely nothing.
I was in very bad debt after graduating and felt utterly desperate too. I eventually contacted a debt charity who got all my creditors to agree to me paying just £1 (yep, £1) a month each until I was in a position to pay more.

It sounds as though the debt is a symptom of the way you have been treated by your husband. This is not an uncommon thing to happen. As others have said, Women's Aid would be great to talk to, if you can make that call.

Please keep posting, we are all here for you and can be present with you while you go through this. Thanks

Ceebs85 · 09/07/2018 23:44

You know it actually doesn't matter how much your debt is. There will be a way around this. You've been stuck in your own head for so long with so much stress and anxiety that your whole thinking has been skewed and you've convinced yourself there's no other way out.

I'm not sure where you live but where I am there is an NHS crisis team who accept self referrals. Google your local crisis team and see what the deal is. If you'd like my help to do this DM me and I'll have a little look into things for you. The crisis team I work for would most likely see you face to face, do a full assessment and advise/reassure/refer on/signpost.

You've been given some great advice already. CAP and Step Change will genuinely come up with a plan between you and the companies you owe to to agree manageable payments. They will go through your whole budget and make sure you're left with enough. I promise you they will have dealt with much smaller and much larger debt.

Your babies would much rather grow up with little money and a loving mum than little money AND no mum. They need you. You can do this but you need help to work through it

yearofthewoman · 09/07/2018 23:51

I deserve punishment for being so stupid

No you don't. You are human. You live in a capitalist society driven by debt. The companies lending you money have been exploiting you, same as they exploit all of us. They don't care about shame. They don't want to punish you. It's all business to them. You don't owe them anything on a moral level, nothing.

You need help. You matter. Your children need you. Money - pfft. As a PP said, the debt is a symptom. Money is simply ability to do stuff, to make more choices. You've got yourself in a pickle and your choices will be more limited than if you had loads of money, but it's not nearly as bleak as you think. You still have the important things - your kids, and they have you, that's what matters most.

You don't need to pay the interest anymore. You can just repay the debt. You should be latching onto this and jumping for joy - or at least ringing Step Change for advice.

But you're still catastrophising, and that's your depression working on you. Please, speak to someone about it. So many people have depression, it's not at all unusual, you're in good company! Your GP will be treating loads of people with depression at their practice. Please, speak to them.

Although - credit where it's due (not that kind! Wink) you did really well to start speaking to your creditors, that's a brilliant step forward, well done.

Janus · 10/07/2018 15:10

Hope some chats with debt agencies have gone well today.

Herbie88 · 10/07/2018 18:18

Im afraid to answer the phone

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yearofthewoman · 10/07/2018 18:33

Why are you afraid to answer the phone, Herbie? Is it because debt people are chasing you?

If so, it's OK, give yourself a break. Simply put it on silent don't answer it today or tomorrow. Phone Step Change instead.

The will speak to all your creditors for you, so you don't have to.

I didn't open the post for about a year, before I started sorting my shit out. I don't recommend it! But just to say I understand it. I used to not understand how someone could not open their post - it made no sense to me. But now I get it.

Herbie88 · 10/07/2018 18:35

Im terriffied og what they will say and terrified.of people landing at my door

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yearofthewoman · 10/07/2018 18:44

Oh yes, that feeling of people landing at the door is horrible isn't it Sad.

I would think it's very very unlikely they'll show up at your door. It sounds like I'm way further down the line in terms of missed payments than you (I just stopped paying for ages!) and no one turned up at my door, although I did worry about it. It's a horrible feeling.

The thing is, though, collections departments have been regulated and are much, much nicer to the people in debt that they used to be.

If they know you're trying to pay it off, they're really nice to you IME! Even if you have no money.

Did you consider talking to step change? Do you like the idea of them sorting it all out for you? And speaking to all the creditors.

They all know Step Change. If you say "I'm speaking to Step Change" they say things like "OK, we'll stop calling you for 30 days and put a pause on your account".

yearofthewoman · 10/07/2018 18:45

Would it be helpful if we shared things you can say to the creditors, to make them stop calling you so much?

yearofthewoman · 10/07/2018 18:47

You're doing really well to put this here by the way. I'm a MN regular (although I change a lot) and I put my head in the sand for about a year, worried about knocks on the door and pretended it was all OK, on the surface, even here.

I wish I'd tackled it earlier, it was so much easier than I'd imagined it to be. I could have saved a load of worry.

Herbie88 · 10/07/2018 18:59

I owe my friends money that i cant repay and my brother too. Its such a mess. I just want to be a coward and go away cos i cant take this pain anymore. I feel ill all the time,headaches and blurred vision,no energy. I just hate feeling like this and im so so tired

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Labradoodliedoodoo · 10/07/2018 19:08

Have you contacted step change?

Herbie88 · 10/07/2018 19:12

Yes but only partly filled out

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Frequency · 10/07/2018 19:13

You need to talk to the GP. All the symptoms you describe are typical for depression. You won't be judged, the GP will have heard far worse. Medications and/or counselling will make things so much better for you.

Wrt your friends and brother, I am 100% certain they'd rather have you in their lives, happy and healthy than their money. Talk to them. Let them support you.

Herbie88 · 10/07/2018 21:34

I dont think so..they would be furious. My heart and body and mind are so tired

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Justtheonequestion · 10/07/2018 22:11

I wuldnt mind herbie. My sister is in loads of debt and took an oversose. None of us care about the money we just want her well xxx

mikado1 · 10/07/2018 22:18

I've thought of you a lot today. You're in a horrible situation. You'll have to try to stop berating yourself and move forward with a plan of sorts. Could you send an open and honest email to your friends and brother? People won't want you feeling like this. Step by step you'll get back on track. A RL handhold would be great I think.

Janus · 10/07/2018 22:18

My mum lost her brother who took his life, she would have paid anything to have him, this is nearly 50 years ago and she still can’t talk about it. Please continue with the step change, you have to try.

Herbie88 · 10/07/2018 22:29

😢😢😢

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Ceebs85 · 10/07/2018 22:49

Please if you can't call your local crisis team plesse at least see your GP xx

Herbie88 · 10/07/2018 22:56

I feel so confused because if i didnt have debt i wouldnt be suicidal. So do i actually have depression or am i just weak and cowardly

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