Still Autumn days in the village with lots of support for all kinds of MH problems - depression, anxiety, OCD, psychosis etc thread 2

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I made a new one hope no one minds.

As snowy says, asking for help is not not coping.

I've just had a bacon and tomato roll for tea, with maybe a choc-pot or apple crumble to follow later perhaps.

forever, they will talk to you about what you are experiencing, and have experienced in the past, and may recommend medication, or support from a Community Mental Health Team, or some form of other therapy. These days it is supposed to be about co-managing your care, so your opinion should count! If you have previously been on medication, it might be worth having this info to hand - when, and the effects - as sometimes they can't find this without trawling through a load of paperwork. Did your GP refer you?

yes I was referred by the GP. I have a list of medication I have tried as long as your arm, none have helped. I have so many different concerns I want to raise; the symptoms I need help for, talking treatments, medications, checking my diagnosis is correct, etc.

I have some strong ideas about what therapy and medication I would like to try but I don't know how much input I will be allowed?

I am scared to admit to the full extent of some of my thoughts (OCD, violent fantasize), in case I get sectioned or it is put on my record and used against me in the future.

Wow everyone's been busy today! Well done on the bread spidey
Hi silvery nice to "see" you. So are you now on 75 of quetiapine at night? Dh is on about 125 and finds it v diff to get up. But they are def helping.

Hi snowy yum to Chinese. We have curry courtesy of a jar of sharwoods, chicken and a load of veg.

Hi forever silvery knows her stuff

It is IMHO best to be honest about your thoughts. You won't be sectioned for having thoughts. Even were they to be suicidal thoughts, there is a difference between so-called suicidal ideation, which are thoughts about suicide, and suicidal intention - a difference which a psych should be aware of. Yes, notes will be made in your medical record: these are confidential, but also you can apply to receive copies, and you can ask to be copied into letters to GP etc when they are sent (plus copies of these will also form part of your notes)

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but some of the thoughts are pretty disturbing, although I have no desire to act on them and I'm not losing tough with reality or anything.

I'm worried about setting off alarm bells if I am totally honest with them. Getting sectioned or getting pumped full of powerful meds I don't want.

Hi everyone :)

I decided last week to give into dd and put the Xmas decs up, and to buy outdoor lights to put up.
Well had a slip n fall from the ladder even tho I was only 7 steps up, and have fractured my arm in two places :( My right arm too, so am more useless then ever :(

Anyway am mastering typing with my left hand. It's a slow process...

(((Hugs))) to all, now I shall read back through the thread. Tho should of probably of done that first!

Oh no ((( collar ))) Look after yourself.

(((hugs))) collar oh that's rubbish. Thinking of you. Can't remember if you have an other half or anything - hope someone is able to give you a hand around the place.

forever in my (limited) experience medics will take you a bit seriously if you are having suicidal thoughts but its when you start planning to act on them they're more interested, and only after a serious attempt that the big drugs come out. But that's just from our family. Take care

Hi to snowy, pulled, silvery, spidey, fluffy

forever it is hard to get sectioned, really hard (and I say this as someone who has been sectioned ), when I was sectioned I was off my face - no idea which way was up. I have suicidal thoughts all the time and tbh nobody bats an eyelid, it is extremely common, that's not to say it isn't distressing or requiring help but MH professionals are used to it and trained to manage risk. Again, being pumped full of drugs is unusual, even when I was sectioned they didn't make me take medication - I refused it for weeks and weeks. Please don't be scared.

CIQ How is DH? How are you?

Nice to see you silvery

Sorry to hear about your arm collar :( Thinking of you xx

I am back to work tomorrow, eeep.

Sorry this is Fluffydressinggown with a name change :)

Hi cream/fluffy dh is doing well. You would never know what's happened except there's stuff he can't do with his hands. Managed to have a family day out today.

I found the first couple of days off him being home pretty awful - level of anxiety through the roof and also lots of unexpressed anger. But last couple of days I can only think I've stuffed that into a box and am functioning on day to day stuff and just not thinking about anything remotely scary. Dh birthday today. Am not thinking about how different today could have been. Just shutting those thoughts down. Not sure it's ideal, but only way I can seem to function. Sorry that turned out long!

His care coordinator said if he doesn't have major therapy for an extended period of time he will attempt again and be successful.

I hope your return to work is going well, cream I agree it's hard to get sectioned

I hope DH's birthday goes well, CiQ, that's sobering re: major therapy needed.

Blood test was rubbish this morning, phlebotomist gave up so one of the drs did it.

CIQ do vent here - albeit lefthandedly - if you feel the need.

I'm not happy with the care co-ordinanator's phrasing, which surely must provoke anxiety - although I think he/she means your DH should be a priority. Even then, it can take time to begin such a therapy.

Earlier this year, my CPN told me catagorically that if I didn't take my dekapote pills I would go hypomanic again - but I've spent most of my life not manic, and not on anti-psychotic medication (although was on olanzapine some of that time). (plus made all sorts of changes in my life which she doesn't really know about). (I am taking them, but if I weren't, would I have had another episode - who can say??)

What I am trying to say, in my clumsy way, is that DH can make it with or without major therapy - or rather, you can use everyday life as therapy. I don't believe anyone has to delve back into the past, they can be healed by the present. 10 minutes a day outside in the daylight can help with reconnecting with the present, so that the past can recede.

Oh and meds can help :)

Thanks silvery I feel a bit uncomfortable venting on this thread as most people are experiencing/recovering from a mental illness and I don't want them to think their partner thinks like I do!

The difficulty with what his care coordinator says is that I agree with him . Anyhow trying to make the most of dh being at day hosp this week and next . Christmas hols will be a challenge - I miss having my own space at the best of times!

I agree your DH needs therapy, in case it isn't clear. I just don't think it's helpful to say definite things about the future you'll be facing if he doesn't get it, or it takes a long time to access, this erodes hope, but please don't let it.

I think many of us here understand about anger - anger with ourselves, even though we know intellectually our illnesses are not our fault, anger with others who don't understand, even anger with HCPs. I for one think that expressing it somehow - by writing it down, talking to a v understanding friend, punching a pillow, ranting while out for a walk alone, can be v helpful. I can't speak for all, but don't hold back on my account :)

Thanks silvery you make a lot of sense I am aware that unexpressed anger contributed to my depression last year. But while I was treading on eggshells the last 2 years, not wanting to bring him down, now it seems impossible to be honest.... Anyhow have an appt with my counsellor wed eve which is a start.

How's everyone else doing tonight?

Mood seriously slipping today

(((( CIQ )))) Is there anything you can do to treat yourself?

CIQ if you are feeling down, have you been trying to hide that from DH? and have been doing so for the last 2 years? But now you don't feel able to hide it any more?

Maybe you and DH can share how you feel and comfort each other? Sorry if that sounds glib.

Gosh I'm feeling low Got a headache and trying to decide whether to go back to bed.

Sorry to here that snowy. I've just had a nap myself, needed it after stupidly staying up till 2am, suspect that was just to show my quetiapine it didn't rule me . Hope you're feeling better, or in bed getting better.

Half an hour and some paracetamol helped, thanks for saying. Gosh, I couldn't have done that on quetiapine!

Ah, but am on half previous dose, only 75 mg. Glad you're feeling a bit better :)

Glad the nap and paracetamol helped snowy
What are you up to this evening?

Hmm bit more complicated than that silvery. I've been treading on eggshells with DH rather since he was v ill in 2012/early 2013, which meant our relationship started to flounder (plus some borderline aspergers character traits on his part coupled with upbringing in a family that didn't express any emotion at all). So started opening up in the summer courtesy of "couples counselling for depression" via Relate. And then this all kicked off and I simply find it impossible to talk to him about anything beyond the practical, yet have a lot of accumulated anger which I said to many health professionals over the last 7 weeks I need support with but it seems I'm not urgent enough.... phew.