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Planning - what would you do?

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funnymum71 · 26/12/2012 16:32

I've been planning my death tomorrow, all day today. I am in contact with services and they had made me promise not to do anything over xmas as it would fuck up my children and ruin christmas for them forever. My brain has decided that tomorrow would be OK as its not christmas any more. I don't want to contact the crisis team again. I don't want to make myself look even more of a needy idiot than I have been doing over the last few weeks. I hate being like this. Its so far removed from the well me that sometimes I don't even recognise the person I've become or the way that I'm behaving.

I have made plans. I've even worked out what I will write to my other half and what I will write to the children. This isn't good. I know that it will fuck them up whether or not its christmas, so why am I doing this? Why do I feel like there's no way out. I'm so tired of the whole fucking thing.

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Fluffydressinggown · 23/01/2013 10:59

Thinking of you, I think breaking it down into chunks is a good step. I hope you enjoy your time with your friend.

audlangsyne · 23/01/2013 20:50

Also thinking of you. I hope it went well seeing your friend and that going out to meet him/her wasn't too hard given your anxiety at the moment. Hope you get some sleep, too, it is amazing what a difference a little bit more sleep can make.

funnymum71 · 23/01/2013 22:41

Apols in advance as this is a post of epic proportions. You have been warned.
Brew and Biscuit for all.

I really don't know where I'm at today. Mood swing like you wouldn't believe. I never quite know how to handle myself when I get like this.

Morning worked out OK - My Care-co turned up for an unexpected visit, well she expected it, but I didn't. It didn't matter though as I was picking up as the day wore on and she mentioned that I was looking brighter and you know what, I was feeling brighter too. In control of obsessive thoughts - they were there, but had no impulses to act on them, so that was a good thing.

I managed to eat some lunch and headed off to meet up with my friend. She couldn't make it, but it was a support group, so lots of other people to chat to which was fine. Told folk about how I was beginning to start feeling better and how much nicer it was to be able to get through a day without freezing my arse off at the station or wherever. They were genuinely pleased for me and it was lovely that they gave a shit. I like these people. They're kind and interesting and friendly and I enjoy spending time with them.

So it should have been OK, right? I'd done everything right. I'd cycled to the group (exercise) had actually got out of the house (filling my time sensibly and meeting small targets) and talked to people who know where I am coming from. All good, right?

So why the fuck did my mood plummet half way through the meeting? Obsessive suicidal thoughts started to take over and it all started to get a bit much. I started to work out in my head that if I left then I could get home, park up my bike and get back to the bridge in time to jump off it before DH and the DCs got home. All of the good feeling that I'd been having just went. Disappeared; Gone. It wasn't even like I just started to feel a bit crappy and wanted to go home for some downtime, it was like I was either really, really good or back down to the bottom of the pit with no warning or breaks to it whatsoever.

So that?s what I did. I wished them all well, made up that I had to get home as I was expecting someone, cycled home, parked up my bike and froze my arse off walking back to the same fucking bridge and going and standing on it. My rationale? I can?t go to the station as they will recognise me and call the police again. That is NOT a good reason for going to a bridge. A good reason is ?I don?t want to fucking well die today thank you very much.?

I made it across the bridge. Got to the other side and went and sat on a bench for about 20 minutes shaking as of course now I was over the other side and hadn?t jumped once, if I wanted to get home, I was going to have to go back over said fucking bridge or do a massive detour that would STILL have me passing it again on the other side. Couldn?t walk into town and catch a bus home and therefore drive past the bridge as when you are planning to kill yourself, you don?t always think to take your purse with you. ARGH.

So I?ve gone from feeling pretty good in the morning and wondering why on earth I would act on such stupid thoughts, to having my mood down as far as it could possibly go and acting on the thoughts, resulting in my sitting on a bench in the freezing fucking cold as it was sleeting wondering how I can get back across a bridge that I?ve managed not to jump off once, but need to face again. So I called the CT again and talked to them while crossing said bridge to get home. .

So by the time DH got home I was a little ropey to say the least. So what I didn?t need to hear is that he has to decide by 31st Jan whether he?s going to take voluntary severance or not. They?ll be making 40 people redundant after the 31st and from what he says he?s top of the list to go. Going voluntarily means he gets 2k instead of 1k. Seriously - that?s all he?s going to get. He?s seriously thinking about taking it as he?s so sure he?s going to get the push. Now all of that would be OK if I was working, as while it would be tight, my wage would be able to cover everything and we would survive. Except I?m not working at the moment and I?m on half pay and half pay isn?t enough to even pay the fixed out goings every month without his wage coming in.

So I?ve gone from acting on a suicidal impulse, getting myself home, trying to act as normal as I can for the children before I fuck them up even more than I know I am doing and suddenly I?m landed with the fact that whether I am well or not, I am going to have to get back into work after this 4 week period or we?ll be utterly fucked financially.

I don?t cry often. I get depressed, but I don?t cry and I hate crying in front of people and am usually good at holding it in, although it may not be a good thing. However, after that conversation I did actually go and lock myself in the upstairs loo while DH played with the DCs downstairs and I howled as I have no sodding idea whether I will be well enough to go back or not and I?m going to have to if we want to get by. I am so used to being the person who supports this family and finding myself for the first time ever in the situation where I don?t know if I can provide that financial support is hard enough, but losing the only other source of income has just knocked me out completely.

I want to get well. I want to get more than two days in a row where I don?t go and do something really, really fucking stupid. I really, really hope that in the next 3 weeks I can do that, but what if I can?t? I?m back to feeling utterly exhausted at the whole thing. I?ve hardly spoken to DH all evening. He?s tried to come and talk to me and sit with me and engage with me and I?ve just cut him dead as it?s the only way I know how not to completely fall to pieces again.

Sorry that this has turned into an epic, but I had to get it down somewhere and here will just have to do. I just want to sign out of all of this. I?ve had enough. In some ways feeling better and positive just makes it worse when it all comes crashing down again.

Argh indeed. I suppose on the bright side, all of the walking is keeping me fit. Hmm

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funnymum71 · 24/01/2013 10:17

I feel bloody awful again. Everything is a monumental effort and I just want to hide in my room and not come out.

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audlangsyne · 24/01/2013 13:22

Good afternoon, Funnymum. I think you are being a bit hard on yourself. You did really brilliantly to make it to the support group yesterday morning and to take something positive away from it. Then you managed to stop yourself from actually topping yourself despite the bleakness, the urge etc coming back. To be honest, I think that the hardest times for many of us are when we leave the support group - the next hour of emptiness of not being surrounded by care etc. Could somebody from the support group talk you home on the phone next time? Then that really bad financial news in the evening, you did the right thing expressing your sadness, worry etc through crying. I think you are doing really well. I know that doesn't make it any easier but my only tip (based on past experience) would be to question in every moment if you are being AS COMPASSIONATE TO YOURSELF AS YOU CAN BE. Have to go - baby crying - but thinking of you and will check in tonight, might be a bit later on.

lizba · 24/01/2013 15:10

God, you're having a really horrible time of it. Yet you recognise that there are times when you feel better and that's worth holding on for. I think you need far more serious help than on here - I don't feel qualified at all to advise you, I just wanted you to know that Im reading what you're writing and really think you need to reach out and get help. CAn I just ask , does your partner know you feel suicidal? When he tries to help , is it not worth letting him? Sorry if these are stupid observations

funnymum71 · 24/01/2013 15:39

Yes DH knows I am suicidal and he's not happy about it. What can I do though?

Today has been another shit day. I met up with my friend as planned this morning, but I just couldn't hold down a conversation and she was worried about me. I told her not to worry, I was just tired and I was in a way as I got very little sleep last night again.

When I got back home I just couldn't settle down to anything. Everything pointed to me ending it all and I went through all of the options. Hanging - would be awful for my DH and DCs to come home to. Overdose - couldn't trust myself not to make myself sick, so it was back to walking to the bridge.

There were a couple of those community support officers about and I did think about going and asking them for help, but instead I managed to walk across without jumping again and then just walked and walked and walked. I made it into town and thought about going for a coffee, went into the shop, but couldn't face being with that many people as it was quite busy, so I walked some more and then got the bus home, but I don't feel safe at home as I'm back to the whole overdose / hanging thoughts.

I'm dealing with them by taking some PRN which I hope to god kicks in soon and getting on line. Its my birthday today. I shouldn't be spending the whole of my birthday battling down these thoughts. I just wish it was Tues again when I was feeling OK and could enjoy something.

lizba - I have external support from the Crisis Team and also from my Care Coordinator. The sensible thing this afternoon would have been to take my PRN and call them and talk about what I was thinking about rather than going out. The problem I have is that when I get into that place there is no sensible going on.

What I am finding really hard to take is the length of time this down has lasted and the length of time these thoughts have lasted. They should be picking up and when I felt a bit better at the start of the week it was like a breath of fresh air and all of my suicidal thoughts and behaviour just seemed utterly ridiculous. Now I am back down again they all seem to make perfect sense.

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snowbanana · 24/01/2013 16:25

At least you got a taster that there is a better life waiting for you :) It is just not darkness there. Getting better takes time.

lizba · 24/01/2013 20:34

Am I being really thick/naive here A couple of things strike me - if you're doing this every day you surely shouldn't be left on your own. If your husband knows then should he not be taking control of the situation ? Can you not be hospitalised if it's as bad as this? I say all this in a concerned way , not an outraged way. Also I heard a guy on Radio 4 Dessert Island Discs a couple of weeks ago , saying that when he suffered from terrible depression he walked it off- he walked and he walked and he walked. If you maybe saw it as going for a walk rather than anything else night that help? Lastly, Marian Keyes talked about how baking saved her - not that she enjoyed it but she was able to immerse herself in it each day and slowly, slowly she got better. Again apologies for the clumsiness of my contributions, I know suggestions like walking and baking are akin to saying pull yourself together, which I really amn't saying

funnymum71 · 24/01/2013 20:59

MH care is a complete postcode lottery. I agreed to admission last Friday, but there were no beds. Where I live you pretty much need to be completely psychotic and sectioned before you'll be admitted. The rest is left for the home treatment team. Our local CT/HTT are made up of some of the loveliest people, but they have huge caseloads so its not always possible to see the same people, so it relies a lot on reading a person's notes.

Today I should have called the CT before it got bad, but I didn't as I hate calling them because I hate being the kind of person who HAS to call them. I don't want to be the person who can't stop obsessing about her own death and walking to and from a bridge like a complete nutter.

As for DH, he doesn't know the half of it. He knows about the second time I was detained by the police at the train station, but not the first time and not the time I managed to get myself away with a call to the CT. He doesn't know about the trips to the bridge or any of my other suicidal thoughts as I've not told him. To be fair this is better than the last time when I was ill as he had no clue whatsoever there were any problems as I'd pretended to go to work for 3 months.

I've not told the CT about taking pills and making myself sick afterwards. I've not told anyone about lying awake at night planning how to hang myself. No one knows how many times I've been to the station and the bridge or how I've looked up on line exactly how much quetiapine would kill me.

The place where I've been most honest is on here, but the only person who knows what is really going on is me.

I hate being the person who I am at the moment. Its hard to explain, but when I was feeling a bit perkier at the start of the week, everything I have been doing seemed ridiculous and completely daft. Then today I spend almost all of the day thinking about dying and it all seems reasonable again.

In my normal well life, I am one of the most organised, rational and sensible people I know. In my unwell life, I am this pathetic mess.

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FeeFiFoMum · 24/01/2013 21:18

Hello, Funnymum.

I think it's good you can post on here about how you are feeling. One thing that sprang to my mind is that I used to keep a piece of paper on which I had written up to five reasons for not killing myself (written and meant whole-heartedly in a stronger moment) which I would force myself to read in the bad moments. The first reason was: you will have moments when you feel better again. Nine times out of ten I would not believe this when reading it during a suicidal moment, however, the fact that I had written it in a stronger moment and really believed it then made me trust in it and keep going.

I don't really agree that you should be in hospital/ under anyone's control. It is your life and ultimately it is your own choice whether you live or die and I do not think anyone should be able to take that away from you, as it is your decision to make. Only you truly know how you feel, as you say, and you have been through such a lot I am not surprised you find it hard to carry on.

Your last sentence makes me think it's a bit "all or nothing" - from being "the most organised, rational and sensible person" or "a pathetic mess". Maybe there is a grey area in between these extremes which is more of the reality?

I am thinking of you and I hope you can rest tonight. It's good you managed to see your friend even though you felt very anxious and she was worried about you.

FeeFiFoMum · 24/01/2013 21:22

Re the grey area - the way that you come across on these threads is as a really well-balanced person, if I am completely honest. I know you feel anything from balanced, but you describe feeling up and down, and having anxieties and fears about things but trying to be positive etc. I know what you are doing - keep going to that bridge - is not normal, but you sound very normal, a normal person under great stress.

FeeFiFoMum · 24/01/2013 21:32

And Happy Birthday! I hope the DCs and DH have given you treats. You deserve many.

lizba · 24/01/2013 21:34

great post, hope it helps. I agree that you sound very together - for what that's worth. ALso very witty but I worry that when a person is feeling like this the decision shouldn't be there's to make because it is simply acting on a moment in time. The fact that you can see yourself from two different perspectives is encouraging, it shows that you really can get better with the right help. Is your husband a supportive husband, is he someone you can lean on?

funnymum71 · 24/01/2013 22:05

Thats what scares me the most lizba. That one of these moments in time is going to be the one where I go too far and I do jump or act on other plans. Its very, very tempting as it would be one way of putting an end to all of this.

DH is supportive, but I don't feel like I can talk to him about everything. That isn't limited to him though, thats pretty much how I am with anyone.

I need to find a way out of this. I need to stop behaving like this. The drugs should be working now, so its working out what I need to do.

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funnymum71 · 25/01/2013 12:16

This is not a good day. Masses of anxiety, masses of obsessional thought. I've taken some PRN, but it doesn't seem to be working. I'm staying in the house as if I leave it I will go to the station. I don't know what to do with myself. I really feel awful. Absolutely awful.

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FeeFiFoMum · 25/01/2013 12:20

Sorry to hear this. Will check in later tonight to see if you want to talk.

funnymum71 · 25/01/2013 15:12

I'm a bit better now. PRN working and DH home. I also had a long chat with someone from the CT which helped a lot.

Just got paid and it was masses less than expected. That didn't help. Just been through the freezer and cupboards to see how far we can get without needing to do a big shop. I will also be selling one of the children. Just need to decide which one now.

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snowbanana · 25/01/2013 16:27

Do you have day hospitals where you live?

funnymum71 · 25/01/2013 16:31

Nope, nothing like that at all around here. I think I live in the metaphorical MH arse end of the world.

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lizba · 25/01/2013 17:05

glad you've had an easier time of it this afternoon.If you can see it all at a distance and see it for what it is - an illness where the chemicals in your body are out of balance and that makes you at times have irrational thoughts - maybe that helps? So not 'Im suicidal" but I'm having horrible thoughts at the moment- as Im typing I'm picturing you saying to yourself - yeah right, love! Also, you say you can't talk to dh about everything - sure, but can you open u to him and say, Im feeling particularly crap at the moment?

Fluffydressinggown · 25/01/2013 21:25

Still thinking of you, it is shit how the MH services are where you live. Take care x

FeeFiFoMum · 25/01/2013 21:51

Stuff like going through the freezer to see how you can get by without a big shop may well keep you going for now. I hope you get some rest tonight.

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