It's my fault that the NHS is too expensive

[snowmash]

and I can't do anything about it :(

Thanks - here sort of takes away the ease of opportunity :/

Re: treatment, my drs and other staff feel the same as you. It seriously worries me that they feel this way if they decide when I may leave :(

snowmash until you are well enough to see that your wish not to be treated on the NHS is a sign of illness they will be reluctant to let you go out into the big world again. I'm just hoping that the anti-psychotic that they have reluctantly added will start to work on that front too x

What type of scene did you order, Pixie?

madmouse, that scares me - can't work out why everyone (it seems) feels this way - does that mean I have twelve days to work it out? :(

snowmash hun as I've said before it's not about you working things out, it's not a quiz, it's about you not being well- it's about you getting better. The meds, you eating and the passing of time will hopefully sort it out soon.

The 12 days is important to me as I thought I would definitely be able to leave then, whatever the state of play. The next section is lots longer.

snowmash the next type of sections means that if necessary they can keep you longer. It doesn't mean that they will need to or want to keep you all that time. Could be just a few more days if your meds kick in well. It makes no sense to keep someone in hopsital against their will because they are a danger to themselves and then let them out after 28 days with them still a danger to themselves.

Ok, thanks ...that makes sense

Hi Snowmash, thanks for your your kind and considered words re: my wildly optimistic ideas(thanks too to shodatin)- I can't believe I was forgetting that the ward has very challenging patients atm and is thus under resourced, as you say, it's ambitious to even get help to have a shower :( . Your sensitive responses to blundering good intentions really give us a sense of the person you are even in these scary circumstances, and I know people on his thread have told you before that you seem incredibly thoughtful and considerate.
The few details you mention of other patients grabbing you are shocking ,but please remember that people on here may well have experienced MH wards, as patients or workers, and realise the day to day is often harrowing- please do remember that.

So pleasd to see that kizzie and pixieonaleaf recommend painting by numbers as I found it very comforting at my lowest point. Not just me then! Really hope you'll feel more able to gradually think about more than the current claustrophobic world you're in . Goodnight all

And it's goodnight from me, hoping everyone has a good, peaceful sleep and wakes refreshed tomorrow,
particularly the children.

Good idea to do painting-by-numbers by the way, I used to do sudoku puzzles in hospital too, always envying patients who could manage a book.

Snowmash, I've deliberately not nagged about food today, but I do hope you've enjoyed some of it and managed to eat all of it. Can we send you a painting kit?

Also hope TIANC is not suffering too badly, with improvement tomorrow. Goodnight again -s

Hey there, just popping in to say goodnight.

Been upright part of today, thanks, much better than expected, but still bloody grumpy and didn't want to inflict it on you guys.

Sleep well, all.

Just popping in to share quick then curl up again. And lots of sympathy - snowmash that environment sounds grim.

Hope today was an improvement TIANC, and you're feeling better for the rest. Cheers!

Cityhobgoblin , compared to more specialist areas I've worked in this is low risk - I only mentioned it to explain (and some posters know why I find that hard).

Hope you're feeling better tianc. Hope dd2 is better pixie. Madmouse hope chickenpox not too scratchy. Shodatin hope your weekend was good.

My timing sucks today. Only just got phone. Had breakfast and tea. Dreading the week.

Thanks, much better this evening. Just realised I was pre-menstrual as well, which never exactly helps.

Well done on the breakfast and tea. I've just had mine, too - leftover ox-tail casserole, yum yum (thank you, DP-channeling-Delia!). Hope your tea was reasonably edible.

Anything special preying on you about this week, or just that it's more of the same?

Soundslovely :)

It's preying on me that staff walked in at the wrong time.
And as I said yesterday it could be my last full week if I can convince them.

Oh, sorry staff are disturbing you.

Mmm, re-reading yesterday, I'm afraid I agree with madmouse and PixieLeaf that they'll probably want you there as long as you're a danger to yourself: like madmouse said, it makes no sense keeping you in for 28 days only to have you be suicidal after you leave.

Sorry, that's probably not what you wanted to hear.

Snowmash if this makes any sense I would much rather you invested your energies in complying with treatment and getting a clear head again rather than trying to convince them that you are ok when you are not.

Sorry

Snowmash,I'm sorry you're feeling you are not appearing as you'd hope to in front of the staff, and hope over the course of this week they'll form an accurate picture of your current health so that you can feel their decisions are fair .

I'm so sorry if I offended you with my comments about the ward environment. I can see how low key you are about it, and didn't mean to patronise you at all. Sorry to hear there are factors about the circumstances which cause you further stress.

Hope you have some decent sleep tonight and positive events tomorrow.

I wouldn't try to convince them I'm ok when I'm not, that would be bad. I meant convince them re: NHS.

I spent a long time talking to staff today (moreso after they walked in On me as they weren't happy with what I was doing).

I am trying to comply - it's the guilt that occurs after eating/meds/talking/drinking that is such a big issue, as then I end up where I was/am today. I know I need to comply to get off fifteen minute obs if nothing else :(

Hi snowmash, I'd assumed you were having a busy day, and glad you managed two meals out of the three.

I think you know really that they will probably keep you in a while longer, at least until you're eating enough and the meds have had chance to make a difference. Assuming that you won't be discharged just yet, can you think of anything that could be altered to make your life easier?