Westministenders: Where's my milk and cheese?

[RedToothBrush]

The 'smooth' exit from transition now leads to a million and one little things that you can't get hold of or took completely for granted.

Why is sainsbury in NI selling spa milk? Why can't you get hold of your favourite food stuff?

Its a slow strangulation of the country.

In which you get to learn all about the merits of the EU and what a donkey Johnson really is.

PMK

Putting the lie to Getting Brexit Done - here’s the timeline for negotiations for the next 10 years (and beyond).

Put simply, Brexit is not ‘done’, merely shifted into a new framework

blogs.surrey.ac.uk/politics/2021/01/07/mapping-the-next-period-of-brexit/

[quote SabrinaThwaite]Putting the lie to Getting Brexit Done - here’s the timeline for negotiations for the next 10 years (and beyond).

Put simply, Brexit is not ‘done’, merely shifted into a new framework

blogs.surrey.ac.uk/politics/2021/01/07/mapping-the-next-period-of-brexit/[/quote]
However with the UK safely out of the EU now, then it's the UKs problem as to how it goes about things. What's the worst we can do.

Meanwhile every single next step is a potential flashpoint for the ERG types and moderates.

And the world keeps turning.

What's the worst we can do.

Sssshhh - they’ll take that as a challenge.

@SabrinaThwaite

What's the worst we can do.

Sssshhh - they’ll take that as a challenge.

Chatter the last few days is how good the UK-EU treaty is for the EU. It doesn't commit them to anything, so can pretty much be left in place as far as they are concerned.

It will be the UK that will have to make changes every single step of the way. With every change being a re-run of the referendum .... sovereignty or utility

@RedToothBrush

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/eu-consumer-worker-protections-brexit-b1783331.html Scrap EU consumer and worker protections now Brexit is completed, leading Tory says Safeguards over data, pay and conditions, GM foods, hedge funds and disposal of old vehicles should all be binned, Daniel Hannan says

This was what was predicted by Phil Moorhouse ... which the UK-EU treaty allows for, but at the cost of tariffs.

So that's a new bunfight for the Tories to have.

Then another.

Then another.

Whoever is PM for the next 10 years, their main memory of the time if office will be Brexit topic after Brexit topic.

It saddens me to see the state of Governance in this country when it was British lawyers who took a leading part in setting up the structures post war Germany. It saddens me to see how readily our population has fallen for populism, which now fully explains to me how the pre-War Germans so easily went along with Hitler (because although 63% may well not have voted for him, it needs more, it needs active resistance.)

Then I can see how desperate Johnson had to be to 'Get Brexit Done' - an extension would have kicked the can down the road, and maybe eventually kicked Brexit into oblivion, so it had to be done while Trump was in Office.

Johnson is making a complete hash of Covid, ably assisted by Matt Hancock, but I haven't noticed whether the ERG types have said much. Is that me not being fully observant, and they have? Or is it that they are just hung up on the EU (like some posters on these threads) that they can't think of anything else?

I'm probably late to the party in noticing this.

Can't decide if it's a positive development that the main broadcaster has started fact checking the prime minister. Or is it a negative because they need to?

www.bbc.co.uk/news/55522329

Then I can see how desperate Johnson had to be to 'Get Brexit Done' - an extension would have kicked the can down the road, and maybe eventually kicked Brexit into oblivion, so it had to be done while Trump was in Office.

Brexit will never go away. Or rather, as long as there are people who are able to whip up that warm-crotch feeling some people have from hearing the words "British Empire" and people whose crotchs are warmed by thinking of the "British Empire", you will have to deal with "Brexit".

And speaking as someone with Italian heritage the fact Mussolini traded on the Roman Empire as whipping up support means we might have to wait an awful long time.

Forget about everyone agreeing with Jeremy Hunt this week, today the Evil One herself appears to have said something I can’t argue with: www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-55571482

Still I don't expect to see Johnson and his mistress strung up from a lamp-post any time soon.

@QueenOfThorns

Forget about everyone agreeing with Jeremy Hunt this week, today the Evil One herself appears to have said something I can’t argue with: www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-55571482

Yeah, I saw that and had to lie down.

However, she's only done it to give herself an excuse for sending in the riot troops in London if she needs it. With the excuse that "we don't want it to become as bad as Washington ...."

I'm too cynical - Evil One speaking out - all part of Operation mend fences.

@Peregrina

I'm too cynical - Evil One speaking out - all part of Operation mend fences.

That was my immediate reaction too.

See Joe, we were on your side all along.

@Peregrina

Still I don't expect to see Johnson and his mistress strung up from a lamp-post any time soon.

My DFs DF ("Nonno") knew a partisan who was there when they strung Mussolini up.

LonelyPlanet
It is a recent and very very overdue developent

This came up on my FB feed and for some reason I thought of @DGRossetti

Oddly enough, I am not surprised at Patel condemning Trump's words. Her department is dependent on people following the rules (even if her officials break the law).

Still, it says a lot when a Home Office Secretary - who is busy building deportation camps - condemns the behaviour of the USA President.

I really hope GOP invoke the 25th and quietly removes Trump to a place with no wifi signal for the next

... twenty years?

The good news is that Biden has now been certified as the next President and the two Democrats won in Georgia. This is a much better situation than looked possible 2 months ago.

Patel viewed resistance to brexit on a par with insurgents carrying out domestic terrorism.

She wants to use it to crush all protest.

We are at a different stage of the process where democratic functioning has broken down.

Protest is a legitimate part of democracy remember.

Where you hit problems is where violence is involved and you lose sight of the democratic purpose of a protest.

(eg part of BLM was about how democratic process was not available to black because of systematic injustice whereas Trump supporters are in favour of ignoring democratic process and want to dismantle how it functions).

Patel views dont necessarily align with democratic due process and engagement. She favours authoritarian dictat.

That said, i do agree with the rinciple of what patel has said. I merely question her motivation for why she's said it.

I don't think its because she wants more democracy in the uk.

Oh, I’m not making the mistake of thinking that Priti Patel has any benign motives for what she said. It’s interesting though that she has condemned Trump’s actions when (as far as I know) our Glorious Leader has only criticised the protestors.