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Westministenders: Where's my milk and cheese?

999 replies

RedToothBrush · 06/01/2021 23:47

The 'smooth' exit from transition now leads to a million and one little things that you can't get hold of or took completely for granted.

Why is sainsbury in NI selling spa milk? Why can't you get hold of your favourite food stuff?

Its a slow strangulation of the country.

In which you get to learn all about the merits of the EU and what a donkey Johnson really is.

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Shrillharridan · 16/01/2021 15:16

I'm not a member anymore (I rejoined briefly to vote for starmer..)
Ds1 is a member so gets e mails from the local branch.
Chair has resigned. Letter rather heavy on "I know a lot of you aren't happy" stuff.
Lots of e mails asking to man phone lines etc
They are rather low on numbers I think.
I know a dyed in the wool corbynite was elected as new chair. I know several local members and they are all momentum types.
Shame.

mrslaughan · 16/01/2021 15:18

It's something Independent sage have been banging on about - it became very apparent when Liverpool was a real hotspot and they implemented the mass testing...... there was no uptake in the poorer areas......esp as something like 70% of the self isolation payment is declined

Peregrina · 16/01/2021 15:27

The pity of it all is that many of Corbyn's policies were good - fairly old fashioned social democracy stuff which was accepted during the 50s and 60s.

Shrillharridan · 16/01/2021 15:30

I agree.
I liked a lot of the labour policies but corbyn was utterly toxic to the party and despite lots of canvassers, lifelong members and loyal voters telling them that they ignored it.
I do think that he was targeted by the RW media rather mercilessly, but there is a good reason he was/is a back bencher for decades.
A leader he ain't.

mrslaughan · 16/01/2021 15:35

One you will love LQ

twitter.com/daniellambert29/status/1350367078662987777?s=21

mrslaughan · 16/01/2021 15:38

@shrill - they still ignore it. As much as things are blamed on "but Corbyn".... corbynites continue to look at the Labour Party through the lense of Corbyn- nothing and no one will ever measure up, or be good enough.
He was rejected.

ListeningQuietly · 16/01/2021 15:42

MrsLaughan
I'm not sure that Love is the right word
but yes
My knowledge is somewhat out of date and second hand
but sadly not inaccurate

TBH I was having rather a laugh reading the comments on this article
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9150705/Scottish-seafood-firms-days-collapse.html

JustAnotherPoster00 · 16/01/2021 15:49

Labour Party through the lense of Corbyn- nothing and no one will ever measure up

I know ridiculous wanting a party that started from socialist values to be socially democratic, the sheer idiocy of it I ask you, I think Corbyn was just a figurehead to the policies that the young overwhelmingly wanted but got to get that brexit done .... but Corbyn

mrslaughan · 16/01/2021 15:49

LQ - I meant more is a nerdy - expanding knowledge than enjoying someone's misfortune 😉

mrslaughan · 16/01/2021 15:54

And Corbin is the only person who can deliver socialist policies?

No he's not - but if you read everything you write - you would believe it go be so.

Peregrina · 16/01/2021 15:55

Labour needs another John Smith figure. Where will he come from?

GhostofFrankGrimes · 16/01/2021 15:57

Corbyn could have won in 2017 if the party had united behind him. Johnson won in 2019 because the remain movement was all over the place and johnson appealed to brexiteers and people that never wanted to hear about brexit again.

Agree that Labours social democratic policies were popular shame they will be inevitably dismantled now.

ListeningQuietly · 16/01/2021 15:57

MrsL
I admit I fell down the rabbit hole of some of the .gov.uk links
and they really are shambolic
poorly thought out
not properly built on what worked before
and will destroy more businesses

bellinisurge · 16/01/2021 16:01

I would never vote Labour with Corbyn in charge. I know that older people's votes don't count on here and we are invisible in real life but he'd have struggled to get anyone of my age who wasn't a die-hard to vote for him.

Shrillharridan · 16/01/2021 16:02

If corbyn couldn't win in 2017 he could never win.
It was an open goal.

Shrillharridan · 16/01/2021 16:04

Bellini
You underestimate the reach of momentum.
I know an 80 year old corbynista as anti semitic as they come...
Most of our local branch corbyn lovers are 50+

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GhostofFrankGrimes · 16/01/2021 16:06

Labour were supposed to get hammered in 2017 it's the reason May called the election. We were told Corbyn had to go because any other leader would be 20 points clear in the polls against the worst government in living memory. And this was pre covid.

Shrillharridan · 16/01/2021 16:08

That was Mays election to lose.
And she did (almost)

Shrillharridan · 16/01/2021 16:09

And let's not discount Good old misogyny at play in 2017

JustAnotherPoster00 · 16/01/2021 16:11

Its almost as if 2 leadership elections, a coup and the centrist PLP briefing against Corbyn to the media had an effect.... nah probably not all Corbyn and his shitness

ListeningQuietly · 16/01/2021 16:42

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Westministenders: Where's my milk and cheese?
ListeningQuietly · 16/01/2021 16:44
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Westministenders: Where's my milk and cheese?
TatianaBis · 16/01/2021 16:47

It’s almost as if 2 elections doesn’t confirm that Corbyn was unelectable.

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