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Brexit

Westministenders: Election Special 2

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RedToothBrush · 12/12/2019 23:33

Exit poll

Con majority of 68.

65 seats regarded technically as still too close to call. But that could mean an even bigger majority.

Blyth Valley has seen a 10% swing to the cons in line with the exit poll. 1st shock of the night

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Apileofballyhoo · 13/12/2019 00:52

Where have you been for the last 3 years!!!?

I know. It's just anathema to me, so I really struggle to understand it.

RedToothBrush · 13/12/2019 00:53

Patrick Maguire
@patrickkmaguire
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I'm told Wansbeck, home to Labour chair Ian Lavery, has gone to a recount

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TiddleTaddleTat · 13/12/2019 00:53

It's getting angry on C4

BigChocFrenzy · 13/12/2019 00:54

"Failure to reach traditional Labour supporters"

that's always been done before by big spending projects, such as the creation of the NHS and the modern welfare state

Didn't work this time
Evidently traditional Labour supporters no longer care much about the NHS or the welfare state, if it means funding them

FoldyRoll · 13/12/2019 00:54

Newcastle North (my constituency) has declared Lab hold but 10% swing away from Labour, but Tories also lost vote share. Not sure that NE results can be extrapolated. We're a peculiar lot.

ginandtonicformeplease · 13/12/2019 00:55

Does anyone know when NI coverage starts?

BigChocFrenzy · 13/12/2019 00:56

Mother For an individual who can emigrate, it's a good choice

No country is perfect, without problems

But most Western ones are not as fucked up as the UK is
and will be for the next 5 years

Rumboogie · 13/12/2019 00:56

Why are people taking a huge Conservative majority as a foregone conclusion?

This exit poll may be nowhere near as accurate as previous ones as there are many seats which are too close to call, no-one knows the effect of tactical voting, there may be many more postal votes than usual.

It is not over till it's in the bag.

RedToothBrush · 13/12/2019 00:56

so far

Labour

Seat change: -1
Votes: 199,134
Vote share %: 47.1
Vote share change: -11.9

Conservative Seats: 2

Seat change: +1
Votes: 145,344
Vote share %: 34.4
Vote share change: +2.5

The cons havent increased their vote much. its labour that have lost it to the brexit party in the north....

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TooExtraImmatureCheddar · 13/12/2019 00:57

I wonder whether we’re seeing the effects of people getting poorer (in general) - if you’re struggling month to month then will you vote for someone who says they’ll increase tax? I know that goes hand in hand with having better public services, but that’s less tangible than your payslip.

MarshaBradyo · 13/12/2019 00:57

Labour will feel sore of course but it’s a chance to look at why, and change approach. There are many votes they could have gained had they not moved this far left with Corbyn.

TiddleTaddleTat · 13/12/2019 00:57

Rumboogie
And that's why I'm not planning to go to bed...yet

MarshaBradyo · 13/12/2019 00:58

And agree it’s not over quite yet

FoldyRoll · 13/12/2019 00:58

Anyone annoyed by BBC, get over to Sky News. Bercow is a joy, Beth Rigby knowledgeable and guests are on one at a time, so no shouty bun fights. It's an altogether calmer, less biased and more pleasant experience

Hazardexhausted · 13/12/2019 00:58

Where can I take a man on life saving meds? Who is now unlikely to recover ever so i won't be working any time soon

Scotland is likely the best bet?

RedToothBrush · 13/12/2019 00:59

Why are people taking a huge Conservative majority as a foregone conclusion?

Labour or the LDs needed to not just hold seats but also gain them. If they cant hold 'safe' seats...

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ElizabethG81 · 13/12/2019 00:59

Apologies if this has already been discussed, I can't keep up. It strikes me that the Labour seats declared so far are swinging to the BXP, rather than the Cons. Also, while their vote shares are down, we should remember that there was a big increase in the Labour vote, especially in safe Labour seats, in 2017. I wonder if it might have gone back down to 2015 levels now, when they had UKIP standing in a lot of these seats?

chomalungma · 13/12/2019 00:59

If young people have voted Labour and older people have voted Conservative (in general), then I don't blame them for getting out...

3dogs2cats · 13/12/2019 00:59

Well, I’m lucky in that we have no health issues currently, and no reliance on benefits. I am going to disengage. May just vote for a new leader for the Labour Party first.

FoldyRoll · 13/12/2019 01:01

RTB, agree Tories aren't picking up votes here, they've gone BXP except in Sunderland Central where they only got just over 200!

RedToothBrush · 13/12/2019 01:01

Britain Elects @britainelects
^Interesting observation on BBC Radio 4: #GE2019
likely to be worst in seat terms for Labour since the 1930s, but vote share likely to be up on 2010...^

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DeRigueurMortis · 13/12/2019 01:01

On the bright side I'm loving Bercow on Sky :-)

"Andrea Leadsom suffered from the rather material disadvantage she was wrong"

RedToothBrush · 13/12/2019 01:02

Paul Brand
@PaulBrandITV
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NEW: Hearing Labour has lost Dewsbury.

Also rumblings of Redcar looking like potential Conservative gain. Was Lib Dem until 2015, then Labour. Now Tory? That’s quite the rainbow. #GE2019

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BigChocFrenzy · 13/12/2019 01:02

ginandtonic Don't Ulster TV and BBC NI have dedicated NI coverage ?
If not, they damn well should

NI counting is ongoing
e.g. see current analysis of some seats.

www.bbc.com/news/election-2019-50766004

TiddleTaddleTat · 13/12/2019 01:03

Elizabeth I think the Labour 'safe seats' that have already been declared are where BXP was still standing. This has effectively split the Leave vote and helped Labour hold on. The agreement BXP made with the Cons was to stand down in Con held seats, so their majorities will probably increase.

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