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Westminstenders: Super Saturday

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RedToothBrush · 18/10/2019 23:02

Parliament sits on a Saturday for the first time since the Falklands.

A deal has been reached with the EU. Its utterly shite and worse for the UK than May's deal. It even leaves no deal as an option after transition.

The DUP don't like it. They got predictably shafted.

Tomorrow is a debate and vote on the deal. Amendments are key, in particular the Letwin amendment which seeks to close a loophole in the Benn Act and stop the Deal being adopted tomorrow, instead forcing the ultimate decision over the deal to a later date and forcing an extension.

Which the EU may or may not agree to.

There is also talk of forcing another ref via amendments but this, unlike the Letwin amendment is unlikely to pass.

The vote tomorrow looks to be very tight. The Letwin amendment passes looks likely to make Johnson fail to have the numbers. However there is talk that enough Labour MPs have decided to back the deal.

There is also a big anti Brexit march in London tomorrow (which runs the risk of having problems with the Extinction Rebellion ban). Good luck to everyone going tomorrow.

See you on the other side (which might now be on this thread!!)

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thecatfromjapan · 19/10/2019 22:35

Honestly. Our media.

They follow all this as though it's a soap operA - without pausing to remind us that this is serious, and the law is serious, and Parliament is serious, and this affects our lives - and we, the people, deserve all this, and our lives, to be treated with seriousness and respect.

Instead, they are practically fagging for Johnson.

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BigChocFrenzy · 19/10/2019 22:35

Louise So the PM behaves like a brat because MPs didn't vote the way he wanted,
despite his threats, bribes, hints of peerages (FT link in old thread)

thecatfromjapan · 19/10/2019 22:35

PS fagging used in public school sense.

Hoooo · 19/10/2019 22:36

louise
MPs rightly choose more time to scrutinise the deal dominic cummings boris came up with.
How can that be a bad thing?
The deal is shit.
Our MPs should have the time to look at it properly.
If its SO great, then it'll pass after due scrutiny, right?

ArseDarkly · 19/10/2019 22:37

The signed, extra letter must surely be in contempt of his promise not to frustrate Benn

HateIsNotGood · 19/10/2019 22:38

Still - no care for the EU27 people you've shat upon nor any realization that the 'Troubles' were to the benefit of a few 'godfathers' that gained from the national/union, catholic/protestant divides that they helped flourish and therefore kill 'innocents'?

Carry on, you selfish,stupid people but hopefully soon you can concern yourselves with who else you are affecting and maybe do some learning about who you are protecting.

BigChocFrenzy · 19/10/2019 22:39

BJ: "this is not from me"

Telegraph readership will lap it up:

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AnxietyDream · 19/10/2019 22:39

I'm assuming the not signing it is so he can maintain the line that it is parliaments letter, not his. Distancing himself. 'A' letter was sent, not his letter.

A signed letter would have been easy ammunition on social media. Especially paired with dead in a ditch quotes.

thecatfromjapan · 19/10/2019 22:39

Louise

I would not buy a house without viewing it.

It is not fuss to view a house.

This is even more serious than a house.

You are enormously passive. And trusting.

You must be such a sweet little thing to be married to. You make me think about what Frank Sinatra told the audience the night he married is Farrow.

Personally, I'm not as submissive as you, you darling little thing.

I expect parliamentary acts affecting my life to be scrutinised.

SpiderHunter · 19/10/2019 22:39

They chose not to.

Johnson pulled the vote on the actual deal and the MPs wont have a chance to vote on it til Monday.

They did, however, vote to add a "subject to suitable parliamentary scrutiny" line to any approval of the deal. And Letwin stood up after his amendment passed to say he would now be voting for the deal, and (given how close the vote was) I think it would have passed.

pigeononthegate · 19/10/2019 22:39

He's signed the third letter.

What an absolute mumblecunt he is.

BigChocFrenzy · 19/10/2019 22:40

"the EU27 people you've shat upon"

Voting for Brexit did that
Invoking A50 did that

thecatfromjapan · 19/10/2019 22:40

Wow.

So much random going on on this thread tonight.

We are blessed.

titchy · 19/10/2019 22:42

It's the action of a petulant 7 year old.

It is. It's a 7 year old being forced to write a letter saying sorry to Jonny for not inviting him to his party, or being forced to write to horrible Great Aunt Maude to say thank you for the 10p in his birthday card. And thinking that if he doesn't sign it it doesn't count. Same as if he wrote it with his fingers crossed. Doesn't count. So ner.

TheElementsSong · 19/10/2019 22:42

If MPs had voted for deal this afternoon then we’d have no fuss, no extension, no letters and no “unsigned” nonsense. They chose not to.

They didn’t get to vote on the deal because, oh, can somebody help me out here? 🙄

ArseDarkly · 19/10/2019 22:43

If MPs had voted for deal this afternoon then we’d have no fuss, no extension, no letters and no “unsigned” nonsense. They chose not to

How did they 'choose'? They weren't given the opportunity to vote because Bozo chose to pull the vote. Pay attention.

BigChocFrenzy · 19/10/2019 22:44

You need to not just read, but study a contract that will affect you for the next decades
Read the small print

The surveyor's report on that expensive forever house you are buying

The contract on that job you are taking, that maybe means you have to move house & schools

TheElementsSong · 19/10/2019 22:46

How did they 'choose'? They weren't given the opportunity to vote because Bozo chose to pull the vote.

Having thought about it for a couple more minutes, I think I get it now. MPs chose for BoZo to pull the motion because “Look what they made him do” Hmm

Hoooo · 19/10/2019 22:47

Yep.

It's ALL about the small print....as I pointed out to cendrillion

PhilSwagielka · 19/10/2019 22:49

And Remainers are supposed to be the brats.

It's pathetic. He's treating this like a game.

PostNotInHaste · 19/10/2019 22:50

It’s just the Bullingdon’s club version of a child crossing their fingers behind their back when they make a promise. I’m not surprised, he is pathetic. And if he wasn’t such a liar he would have probably got his deal through today so only himself to blame.

thecatfromjapan · 19/10/2019 22:50

I'm being horrible tonight.

Sorry everyone.

I've developed a cold and I think I'm just being unpleasant.

I'll try and count to ten before I post.

AnxietyDream · 19/10/2019 22:50

BJ is a slippery fuck. In the HoC he said he would not "negotiate" a delay with the EU. Clearly he doesn't count sending the extension request letter as negotiating.

I actually argued with DH a few minutes after Boris spoke as DH was adamant the BJ had just said he wouldn't send a letter, but I immediately picked up on the weasel wording.

I'm trained to listen for it now, like one of those oracles/prophecies in novels which appear to say one thing, but you know there's a twist coming and it will turn out the characters have been interpreting it all wrong.

OhLookHeKickedTheBall · 19/10/2019 22:50

How did they 'choose'?
By insisting on an amendment and not just trusting in a known liar 🤷‍♀️

PhilSwagielka · 19/10/2019 22:51

The contempt these people have for ordinary people's lives is unbelievable.

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