Interesting stuff on remainvoter.com

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My DD told me about this site, (Remainvoter.com) it's non party political and is run and funded by volunteers. Anyone else seen it? Most interesting thing is a blog post about changing politics rather than blaming politicians who are caught up in the present system. I agree since I am just fed up to the back teeth with the whole thing and hardly know who to vote for to get any common sense or decent behaviour anymore.

LeClerc - are you feeling a bit off today? Surely someone with the power of Google at your fingertips such as yourself knows that by calling people idiots for exercising their democratic rights by voting doesn't work as well as trying to understand why they did so?

You've already told one poster today to fuck off and accused them of being a Russian Troll. Yet apparently how you might or might not vote is no one's business? You post nothing but various links that try and substantiate your opinion - accompanied by your rather extreme view of the UK post-Brexit.

I thought you were made of sterner stuff than that - but then I do appreciate that everyone has a bad day.

Why do leave posters keep bumping this thread up? I hadn't seen it, but you keep putting it in active threads, so now I can tell all my EU immigrant friends about remainvoter.com

Thanks guys! (You are obviously blokes).

{I thought you were made of sterner stuff than that - but then I do appreciate that everyone has a bad day.}

Thank you for your concern but I am as fine as anyone can be having had various aspects of my life messed up by 'Leave' voters who want to spoil things for everybody else while not having the decency to acknowledge that there are no real plans.
It seems that 'leaving' is not a universally brilliant plan otherwise the UK would have left on 29 March, although admittedly in a transition period because unraveling 40 years of legislation can't happen immediately.
I am happy to engage with anyone who can put forward a half decent plan and can demonstrate how they come to their 'conclusions' but waffley crap and soundbites don't impress me.

LeClerc how has your life been messed up by Leave voters? I mean shit happens to people all the time, myself included, but not in ways that I can blame on how people voted in a Referendum - yourself included - if indeed you did actually vote.

What sort of Plan are you looking for? There is a saying "best laid plans"...So, my Plan would be vote through the WA first, then we have an actual starting point to Plan from. I do have hopes and 'ideals' that I would like to see happen, or start to happen, but at this stage of the game I wouldn't start to promote them until we have that, or a, starting point.

What I will aver is that my 'ideals' look more possible with the discontent surrounding the inability of Parliament to agree on a way forward, so the UK population will be more receptive to doing things differently.

Your turn - what is your Plan and what do you hope to achieve by constantly grasping onto the 'status quo' that existed prior to the Referendum?

Misti - freedom of speech and all - didn't know it was purely a Remain thread. My bad, possibly you would rather remain in an echo chamber? How wierd to classify your friends into categories such as "immigrant friends" - aren't they just friends? Of course tell any of your friends whatever you like as that what friends do.

Totally pleased that you might think I'm a bloke - it wouldn't be the first time, as I'm not your usual package of female.

I voted to remain in the referendum as I am a UK citizen and at that time was resident as I had been since birth.
Since the prime issues behind 'Brexit' actually had virtually no correlation with the EU I would have expected the UK to act the grown up and join in with the rest of the EU and solve some of the issues that are affecting all of Western Europe and those that are actually global problems. Instead the UK is suggesting it wants to duplicate some of the functions it shared with the EU, make trade and legal negotiations more difficult in the vain hope of chasing unicorns.
The EU does need to reform in many areas, but you don't do that by smashing up the 'good' bits. Problems with Immigration, influences by the far right and terrorism are common across Europe and the UK cutting itself off from the rest of Europe won't save it.
Just because I may not be residing in the UK now does not stop me wanting the best for all the rest of my family and friends who almost all live in the UK. Leaving is a process of negativity and isolation, I want positives and opportunity for all.
The real 'sting' is that exiting can never deliver what Leavers say they want. If the UK is to leave, the WA has to be signed before the EU will commence ant further negotiations, so the quicker this is realised and done the less 'pain' there will be.

Hate I'm an immigrant. I know a lot of immigrants. We're directly affected by Brexit. So a site which helps remain voters make tactical voting decisions is of interest to me and people I know. I'd like to extent a personal thank you to you and Micky-string-of-numbers for drawing my attention to it

Le Clerc:
you say the nation benefited 5 to 6% from being in the EU - okay, but who gets to see this gain: is it the wealthy or those competing massively for jobs, housing, school places, NHS slots etc with the new immigrants ???

Peregrina:

Boris and JRM went to private schools, so what - it's what most parents do , ie. give their kids the best

JRM has a superb intellect , why waste it at some shitehole school if his family has the money to send him to Eton

Mitsigiri:

yeah right, some 2 bit pro-Remain webiste is gonna magically keep us in the EU...give over

Brexit is the most important issue now and will be until it is stopped.

Labour will wipe the floor when/if they come out for Remain.

I feel sorry for anyone who regards Mogg as intelligent.

The Spanish have just halved the predicted gains of the neo fascist vox party and decimated their conservative party.

Two lessons I take from the victory of their Spanish PSOE socialist party and their electorate's decimation of the right:

Get the vote out: Spain managed 75% turnout

Have a pro EU Socialist party running.

And/or vote for the strongest pro EU parties on the list.

Micky665544
For a start I said that the UK benefits by 5 or 6 TIMES it's payments, not percent. You obviously fail in your attention to detail.
It comes back to the UK to help fund social projects, regeneration of areas around the UK for example, and the 'administration fees' that go to regulatory bodies that ensure the beaches are clean, food is safe to eat, and a whole range of things that a country 'spends' on.
Even down to the E symbol on your tin of baked beans. It may seem insignificant to you but as a consumer it gives you 'power' to challenge the beans manufacturers if there are insufficient beans in the tin and that they are fit to eat. Having this legislation Europe wide saves money, but when leaving the UK will have to administer a replacement system itself (more red tape) and it won't automatically be recognized when selling UK products elsewhere, so duplicating the administration, more expense that the UK manufacturers will be hit with..

Boris and JRM went to private schools, so what - it's what most parents do , ie. give their kids the best

I am not sure why you specifically share this well known pearl of wisdom with me Micky. I think if I were Boris Johnson's father I would be asking for some of my money back - you don't need an expensive education to act like a fool.

"JRM has a superb intellect "

No he really doesn't, he often gets things wrong and isn't challenged on them is all. His pronouncements on how the WTO works for example.

"These figures do not include the £9 million spent by the government on the leaflet - sent to every household advising them to vote Remain."

The leaflet which the act that brought about the referendum said the government had to set out its position in? So the leaflet that was legally mandated?

Your spending tally also doesn't include the gratis campaigning by the right wing press that leave got or actually any figures for Cambridge Analytica.

In a way you’ve got to love these leavers that still try to persuade you you’re wrong, it’s almost as if they didn’t believe themselves that gets won and how to justify it (with real arguments, that is)
Clavinova, I’ve been to many of the countries your first post mention. They’re not the counties I’d like as pals, because most of them have an appalling record in terms of human rights, equality, fairness. That’s not to say that I don’t wish them well, but seriously....Qatar?? Do you want to get your salad and tomatoes from Qatar instead of Spain? :-) in case you didn’t know, they use London as money laundering and/or to take petrodollars and transform them into more reliable bricks.
Taiwan? Nigeria? Sounds very sustainable right, trading via air freight from distant continents. What happened to the common sense British were so proud off? Jeeeez

And quoting Liam Fox as a reliable source?

Shall we remember what he said about the EU trade deal and exiting the EU?

Again copy and paste Clav fails to use any critical thinking.

Qatari investments in the UK tend be property based or of established businesses like Harrods, not creating new jobs.

woman19:

it's actually the first time a far-right party has entered the Spanish parliament since Franco, so hardly a 'decimation by the left'.

Funny how all you Remainers on here keep telling us how wrong the 'dumb thicko peasants are' - if you lot are that bright how come you managed so badly so as to lose the vote..

In a way you’ve got to love these leavers that still try to persuade you you’re wrong, it’s almost as if they didn’t believe themselves

This is on the money.

They've had three years to work out what they want and how to get there - but instead they're still shitposting on a parenting site.

Spain election results pretty interesting woman. Main takeaway is that the major right wing party moved right - and lost votes. You can't beat the far right at their own game, as the PP found out thus weekend and the Tories are set to find out.

It's a shame that the centre and left is split in the U.K. but it won't be split forever.

Iambuffy - Anyone heard anything from that remain voter website??
Remainvoter has a lot more to say on Twitter - they said they would email supporters a week before the Euro elections with recommendations and evidence. 15h ago they said: “Vote recommendations now are premature. There is no clear answer apart from Scotland & Wales. If Labour makes PV policy, it changes everything. If they don't it could change everything. For now, we should focus on registration and postal votes in Scotland and Wales.”

{Funny how all you Remainers on here keep telling us how wrong the 'dumb thicko peasants are' - if you lot are that bright how come you managed so badly so as to lose the vote..}

Anybody can vote for the promise of free money. Making it happen is a different thing altogether, as the UK is starting to discover.

The 'Mythical' £350 Million a week that COULD have gone to the NHS has already turned into £500 Million a week going into preparations for leaving, and NOT to the NHS.

The fact that the UK gov could have put more money into the NHS irrespective of the EU is of course lost.

the NHS is overused and that's one of the reasons for the high financial demands on it, and of course one of the main reasons why people voted out.

dumb thicko peasants
There's only one person on this thread who has used terminology like that and guess what? It's a leaver. They do keep trotting out the same old tropes.