Honestly - how likely is it now that Brexit will never happen?

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There's just 57 days to go until we leave the EU.

Is there still a chance that Brexit will be stopped in some way, politicians will see sense, the whole thing will be called off and we will remain in the EU?

How likely is that to happen?

Agreed. I hope to god that all I’ve read about no deal being having the worst impact on the UK in terms of food and medicine supplies is wrong, and is just propaganda used to - what for actually? I don’t know, surely the government would want us to be not scared of no deal if it was a likely option, it’s hardly like the public can do anything now.

But I digress, I hope it’s not true but the amount of people who have some credibility saying it’s bad and my perception of the credibility of people who’s saying it will be absolutely fine, leads me to think a no deal Brexit will be uncomfortable to at least some extent.

Sorry that was agreeing with Random18

I think no deal is very likely now.

What do you call Brexit and Leaving the EU?
Is it a No Deal scenario and nothing but the hardest Brexit possible or are you are you happy with the WA?

Atm the choices are just that. No Deal or WA (I think anything else has been pushed aside now, incl a second referendum, a general election let alone Revoke)
Imo both of these ARE Brexit.

So I’m wondering why are worried it won’t happen.

It's nothing more than brinkmanship. The EU needs a deal, the UK needs a deal. Both sides will be badly affected without a deal. It's simply a matter of who blinks first now. Whatever the EU leaders may be saying publicly about no more negotiation, that's just a publicity tactic, there'll be all kinds of discussions and ideas being discussed behind closed doors. Both the EU and UK need to be seen to "win". The EU needs to send a message to other countries where anti-EU sentiment is growing that they're not giving the UK a deal on a plate. The UK needs to come up with something for the voters to make them think we've got a good deal. Some kind of deal WILL happen!

@Infinite I see Barclays are moving £160 billion capital to Ireland as they have got fed up with the uncertainty .

The divorce bill is a fraction of that.

Of course we have all been treated appallingly.

Which is why I think we need to Revoke.
Politicians admit there was never a plan.

Put it on hold at moment and work behind the scenes working how we do it and then if the opportunity arises again I’m a few years time we will be in a much better place.

Our political establishment has spent two and a half years trying to thwart the majority failing to address, even acknowledge the basis of the malcontent (for the hard if understanding it's sovereignty not immigration).

Far longer than 2 and a half years. It was decades of the same which led to the anti-EU feeling, the rise of UKIP, the splits in all major political parties, etc. Go back a few more years to Brown's "bigotted woman" comment. Go back further to Blairs "rub the nose of the right in immigation". Politicians for the last couple of decades at least have been self-serving and havn't really given a toss about the voters - it's all been about power struggles, feathering their own nests, etc. We really deserve better from our politicians. How about we sack the lot of them, make a rule that they can't stand for election ever again, and start afresh.

I think "no Brexit" is unfortunately fairly unlikely if - as I believe is increasingly probable - Corbyn moves to support the WA in the next two weeks.

Brexit- The British people do NOT deserve better - the majority ( albeit small) voted for leaving, so blame those voters; whatever happens is on their heads!!! They are now back tracking say they didnt know what their vote really meant; well it was up to them to find out before blindly casting their vote. Others are blaming the PM. Well she has spent 2 years trying to get the very best deal ( even though it was against what she believed, as she isn’t a ‘leaver’) and how can we exoect to ‘leave the club’,so to speak, and still have the ‘club’s’ benefits?? It doesn’t work that way!
Furthermore, if Eire want to stay in the EU there will have to have some border controls like between any other EU and non-Eu country - why should they be different? Eire is a seperate country to N.Ireland, it has its own government and currency. I can’t see why some ‘soft’ border controls can affect the Peace Process; surely that’s another matter altogether??
I think we will leave without a deal because the EU aren’t going to fly into a panic as forecasted( this has been backed up by what happened yesterday). The EU are 27 countries and to ask them to renegotiate just because our one Parliament doesnt agree the package is ludicrous. It puts the PM in a ridiculous position - not of her own making. She got the best deal available and we should go with it now or opt for No Deal.
However, if we do the latter, I feel it is a big possibility that we will experience a recession more severe than in 2008. Do parlimentarians really want that?
Obviously, I was and am, opposed to leaving but as Im a democrat I’m going with it and feel the PM has done the bedt she could in the circumstances.

I think she'll get WA through. It'll come down to that (with the backstop) or No Brexit. Or some miraculous customs union thing which means everyone is fine not making any deals with other countries.

The British people do NOT deserve better

Yes they DO. Successive politicians and governments over the past 20 years have led the country to where we are today because they didn't take heed of the growing discontent over the EU, loss of Sovereignty, immigration, etc. It was entirely foreseeable that at some future time, it would come to a head. Yet, successive politicians just ignored it, all the while playing their power games and lining their own pockets. The British people deserve far better politicians than the dross we've had to choose between for the past 20 years.

Brexit- The British people do NOT deserve better - the majority ( albeit small) voted for leaving, so blame those voters; whatever happens is on their heads!!!

No, the blame lies at David Camerons feet where it belongs for calling the referendum in the first place. Where is he anyway?

Will the world come to an end if it is no deal? No
Will you starve .. No.
Will your children disappear ... No
All most every comment is about money, the effect this will have on your own pockets, with in the near future.
Most leavers want change and a better quality of life. We voted as nothing done in the last decades seems to have changed much.

Better quality of life? With food struggling to get to shops and prices rising?
Doesn't sound better to me. Worse for more people, more like. Or is this about punishing people for being fortunate enough not to be desperate.

She really hasn't done the best in the circumstances.

• she's never once reached out to Remainers, calling us 'citizens of nowhere' etc, encouraging the division. She could have said, 'this is a very narrow vote to Leave, we obviously have to look at what caused it and work across the parties to find a solution about how to Leave. Our country is obviously divided and we need to find a solutiont doesn't tear us apart'. Not this bullshit about how everyone is coming together behind Brexit.
• she triggered A50 without a plan
• she called an unnecessary election, wasting time and losing her majority
• even relatively recently, she has been to the EU, sat in front of them and replied 'Brexit means Brexit' when asked what she wants
• she puts party before country every time
• she negotiated a Withdrawal Agreement and then instructed her own MPs to vote against it
• she wasted time over the Christmas period and after losing the vote

Etc. Etc.

At every turn, she has made the wrong decision. Every turn. I feel no sympathy for the woman. I believe she's entirely capable of taking an entire country over a cliff without even a momentary twinge of regret.

@mummy in 50 years time we may be back to where we are now.

Do you have kids? They will be affected the most sadly.

Genuinely can't believe Leavers still think their lives are going to be better after No Deal/Any Brexit. It's like a death cult now.

Good description @TheWomanin12B . Although I must warn you that Quitlings find analogies triggering.

The Conservatives will never again be able to claim to be a party that does what's best for the economy.

I don't think there is any chance to revoke now, neither do I think we'll crash out. I think we'll leave with an agreement at the 11th hour, like a game of political chicken.

People were fed in the wars...
Supermarkets make my bey from selling food, now you really think they will leave shelves empty for more than a few days... Ha ha.. your having a laugh or your deluding yourself if you think they won't find a way to stock them..

But hell lets panic everyone so they buy everything they can see, even if people never use it, let's create the shortages so there is even more panic buying, so the stores get a massive cash for influx.
So with no food available all the food outlets will shut.
So tell me just how long do you say this will happen for?

Don't remember "we won't starve" as a slogan. Do you @mummmy2017 ?

I have been advising people to prep fully for three days. Beyond that is up to them and their wallets and space available.
I have people like you telling me that's lunacy.
I have people telling me that's not nearly enough and I am naive.
And some people have been nice enough to thank me for giving them something to work with.
What have you been doing apart from ridiculing anyone who dares think it isn't going to be lovely?

People were generally hungry in the war. World war 1 people weren't actually fed. It was a disaster which is why they planned and introduced rationing. It was fairly miserable and a black market and profiteering flourished. Read mass observation diaries. (And my parents lived through it)

We had a common enemy in war. This one were inflicting on ourselves. Or rather less tgan half the population are inflicting on the others.

How come on Mummy you're using commonsense again dont you know that's outside the Mumsnet Remainer Central rules.