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Honestly - how likely is it now that Brexit will never happen?

345 replies

Crimson72 · 31/01/2019 08:30

There's just 57 days to go until we leave the EU.

Is there still a chance that Brexit will be stopped in some way, politicians will see sense, the whole thing will be called off and we will remain in the EU?

How likely is that to happen?

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Random18 · 01/02/2019 20:13

I also actually quite liked when we had a coalition government and feel a bit sorry for the Lib Dem’s.
They did manage to reign in the Tories quite a lot. They were always going to have to concede on some issues though

Yaralie · 01/02/2019 20:19

The majority of the country and the majority of MPs want the UK to remain in the EU so why don't we just stop this brexit nonsense for once and for all and revoke Article 50?

jasjas1973 · 01/02/2019 20:22

But we seem to just switch from one party, to the other party and nothing much changes. There is as you say no reason. For the parties to change ... Now however everything is up for grabs...

I was a huge Blair fan, i believed he would change everything, i believed his stirring rhetoric, that he would undo the years of damage the Tories had done to the UK and we would became a Scandinavian socialist style democracy (i used to live in Sweden)

I was sadly disappointed and i think you will be too Mummmy, which sad.

Post brexit, we still have a 2 party system, perhaps with a few extra LibDems but nothing will change in Parliament, why on earth would it?

Brexit is an event that affects us lot, not the ruling classes.

Maryjoyce · 01/02/2019 20:55

Mummy. sadly you can’t hope to get any sense here as this is the site where most believe it’s the end of the world on the 29th of March.
For me it’s party time if it happens hopefully with no deal as I voted to leave not part leave

Future 29th of March days will be known as.
Divorce from the parasites day.

Peregrina · 01/02/2019 22:22

With one family member heavily dependent on imported medication to stay alive, I won't be celebrating 29th March as 'divorce from the parasites day'. I will most likely commemorated it as a day when some bloody fools held the country to ransom and destroyed his quality of life and shortened it. This is unless Parliament manages to wake up in time.

GoFiguire · 02/02/2019 07:21

Divorce from the parasites day

Yes, this is how Europe views us.

Good description.

Bluntness100 · 02/02/2019 07:28

No one views anyone as parasites. How immature and simply ludicrous.

dimsum123 · 02/02/2019 07:48

The EU is about co-operation and collaboration between nations.

To say the EU are parasites just shows how thoroughly brainwashed and successfully manipulated you have been by the brexit supporting media. It's a sorry state of affairs.

bellinisurge · 02/02/2019 07:54

I think you will discover a whole new set of parasites to satisfy your urge to blame national woes on someone. Maybe you can expand to blaming people on benefits. Or people with dark skin. Or Northerners. Or Scottish people.
People who see other people as parasites are being played. Played by anyone who needs a sucker to achieve their ends. Deregulation of the market. End to welfare.
What happens when you are the parasite?

Bluntness100 · 02/02/2019 08:15

I think what happened is some people simply believed the half stories being told by politicians, it's quite shameful they were allowed to do it, but the remain campaign was there to try to show the other side.

So for example, so many focusing on the 39 billion a year. Yes it's a big number, but it's not the whole story. As the the net benefit to us, is approx £3000 per year per household, so it's akin to paying a penny to get a pound back, but the campaign only focused on the penny, it never told about the pound, and when the remain side tried to explain it. They were shot down as scaremongering. The result is people like the pp thinking they are parasites, when in reality what we gain financially far outweighs what we pay.

Another example is the wto terms, how hundreds of countries trade on these, How we can trade on these, but they failed to mention every single one of those countries has supplemented it with their own trade deals. We would,literally be the only country in the whole world trading on only world trade terms.

So many half Stories, people not looking at both sides, working it out for themselves simply believing what some politician says, so you see them, rubbing their hands in glee, thinking yes, we will have 39 billion more, which is less than 0.5 percent of our gdp, but not realising we will actually on average be 3000 pounds per household worse off net by coming out.

Because literally we pay a penny to get a pound. So now we will be grasping our pennies, whilst the world looks at us like we are total idiots.

dimsum123 · 02/02/2019 08:40

Bluntness, well put but so depressing and sad and scary that this could actually happen.

And the people who will be hit the hardest are those who voted to leave.
They think they have nothing to lose. It is only after we crash out that they will realise they actually have a lot to lose and that it is possible for them to be even worse off than they are now.
But by then it will be too late.

Bluntness100 · 02/02/2019 08:57

I do think there is a culpability here from some of our politicians.

Take Boris Johnson. This man is a big name. For the last three years he's been pushing leave. Telling us we should leave with no deal if it comes to it, how we can spend our pennies.

And then last week he walked out of the Houses of Parliament and announced blithely that no one wanted no deal. Certainly not him, like the last three years didn't happen, no shame. No embarrassment, no yeah I've been bullshiting you for three years. And I'm now changing my story. Just simply , we need to get a deal, we simply can't do no deal.

And then we scratch our heads and wonder why people are confused. Why we ended up in this position, of taking back our penny, when rhe reality is, some of our politicians lied to us. They told us half truths.in a bid to make a name for themselves, to grab at power. And then when it comes down to the wire, they say, yeah, ok, really we shouldn't be doing that, and bare faced pretend they Ever said otherwise.

Peregrina · 02/02/2019 08:58

Another story was yesterday's about Gibraltar. The Express went on an on about how they had voted to Remain British. I didn't mention the later Referendum where 96% voted to stay in the EU and what effect being taken out would have had on them. And of course there were tantrums when it was described as a Colony, when it used to be described exactly as a Crown Colony.

bellinisurge · 02/02/2019 08:59

Johnson is high up in the list of Twats. If you believed him, you need a good hard word with yourself.

Random18 · 02/02/2019 09:30

Does Boris Johnson even wantnis to Leave the E.U?
I think he chose the side he believed would better further his political career.

The man has no morals what so ever.

Peregrina · 02/02/2019 09:35

When it all goes tits up, I could just see Boris Johnson having the brass neck to say that he never supported the Leave campaign.

Lottapianos · 02/02/2019 09:36

I wouldn't put anything past Boris Johnson. He will say and do whatever it takes to get what he wants, and is a proven liar.

Random18 · 02/02/2019 09:39

I can see him stand up in the HoC and saying we should revoke.
The knight in shining armour...................

Despicable human being

jasjas1973 · 02/02/2019 09:55

Anyone see this?

How a brexitier defends his own bare faced lies!

twofingerstoEverything · 02/02/2019 10:09

And the people who will be hit the hardest are those who voted to leave.
Let's not lose sight of the fact that a LOT of leave voters are very, very comfortably off. By buying into this rhetoric about leavers being some kind of poor underclass, we are allowing them to get away with their divisive and fallacious spin that Brexit was a battle between the 'left behind' and the 'elites'.

Sure, some leavers are poor, but a lot of remainers are, too, and they will be just as hard hit by this fuck-up. Mummy asserts that she lives from one end of the month to the other. Well, so do I. I have no savings, no buffer, I just go from one payday to the next with nothing at all left over. I have zero social life, holidays, etc. She thinks leaving will mean the magic money tree will suddenly bear fruit for people like us. I know that it won't, because if the will to have less wealth inequality was there, we'd already be enjoying a better, more equitable, standard of living.

Random18 · 02/02/2019 10:09

Wow

And I think he is taking a tone that we will see from most Brexiteers and is going to become more and more of an issue.

It’s all the fault of the remainers!!!

dimsum123 · 02/02/2019 10:13

Totally agree about the snake Boris Johnson. I think he has been put up to front brexit campaign because the brainwashed manipulated will believe him because he makes himself seem benign and believable because of his buffoonery.

In reality as pp have said he will choose any stance that he believes will further and benefit his own person ambitions. What an utterly despicable individual. Don't know how he can sleep at night. But people like seem to have no conscience whatsoever.

twofingerstoEverything · 02/02/2019 10:13

Ha! While I was typing all that, someone posts a video in which a lord blames the 'establishment elite' for the shitstorm.
It is very, very important that we don't fall for this rich v poor, elite v man-in-the-street rhetoric.

Bluntness100 · 02/02/2019 11:30

The other one is Jacob Rees mogg, has anyone even heard of that man before this? You can see him at press conferences, when his aides tell him to do something, over here sir, and he loves it, he loves the attention, he is all excited, but he's also now grabbing the nearest ladder to climb down.

Granted he's not done a Boris, and just leapt, oh no, Jacob is doing it slowly rung by rung, detemined to wring every last bit of publicity from it, playing it like he is compromising, and not actually back tracking, Oh no he's not back tracking, just before he takes up a number of high paying non executive posts somewhere in the private sector and making sure his savings are safe and we don't actually do what he has been suggesting..

It's all politics, and yes it's all game playing, but too many members of the public believe these fuckers to be sincere, to be honest, and it's going to cost us hugely.

Quietrebel · 02/02/2019 11:44

Divorce from the parasites day.

Disgusting statement, but Europeans don't care in the least about what's happening over here or how people like you see them.