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The deal has been rejected by Parliament

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MongerTruffle · 15/01/2019 19:42

What will happen now?

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mirren3 · 15/01/2019 20:33

What a farce from start to finish, when will we find out how much this has cost us? So far.

derxa · 15/01/2019 20:34

May is the worst PM in living memory but for the Tories it doesn’t matter, party before country. Ghost You always remind me of makeourfuture

SillySallySingsSongs · 15/01/2019 20:35

This isn’t about the Labour Party sally this mess has Tory dna all over it whether you like it or not. Laughing stock of the world

It is down to both though. JC wants a snap GE? What is Labours position? What do they want? They say they can get a better deal so what is the deal?

Lets not forget JC was calling for the triggering of article 50 on the day of the referendum result! An inconvenient truth that seems to have been forgotten.

All we hear is soundbites and fluffiness.

Both parties voted for the referendum.

He wants a snap GE when they have no plan themselves.

They all need their heads banging together.

tillytrotter1 · 15/01/2019 20:35

but surely she can’t keep going round in circles like this

So what should she do? All we hear is 'sort it out'! I'd love to here the solutions of the armchair warriors.
When people voted to leave how many understood the process of leaving, or did they expect to wake up next day to a done deal?

Greensleeves · 15/01/2019 20:36

Leaving the EU will do fuck all to alleviate poverty and the effects of austerity in post-industrial areas (or indeed other areas of extreme deprivation). People in those areas who voted Leave believing that it would improve their lot were at best ill-informed. That is what people are angry about.

Nobody with half a brain still wants Brexit, hard or otherwise. It's madness.

GhostofFrankGrimes · 15/01/2019 20:37

I want the Tories to sort out this mess, nobody else. By the time brexit happens there won’t be a country worth governing.

watfordmummy · 15/01/2019 20:37

Nobody with half a brain still wants Brexit, hard or otherwise. It's madness.

You are wrong

Gwenhwyfar · 15/01/2019 20:38

"But if he loses, then what?"

Labour party police, as in their conference motion is that if a GE is not possible, they campaign for a People's Vote.
Let's see if they really do.

Curlyshabtree · 15/01/2019 20:38

I think they did Tilly
No thought at of all the implications and ramifications.
I cannot imagine how this chaos will play out.

ReanimatedSGB · 15/01/2019 20:39

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Justanotherlurker · 15/01/2019 20:39

It wouldn't be May V Corbyn so I doubt labour would get into power, Corbyn will have to square peg a lot of his policies (people will point to france re trains etc) and try and keep the 60% of constituents that voted leave, if he doesn't its a wipe out as it will be brushed off as champaign socialism with the most left wing leader in a few decades.

bigdayinpolitics · 15/01/2019 20:39

Wonder how the rest of the world is covering this right now, be interested to know from overseas mnetters? Apparently it's wall to wall in Germany

1981m · 15/01/2019 20:39

Justthere- I don't understand why you thought leaving the EU was going to help your family and help 'issues' can't you see we will all be worse off with a no deal?

XingMing · 15/01/2019 20:39

Justthere, I hear and second everything you say about post-industrial areas, but to declare that 30 years after the 1980s is just talk. At some stage the people who live in post-industrial areas need to step up and work towards improving the standard of educational attainment and aspiration, like demanding better results from their children personally, and everyone responsible for rearing them instead of going alas.... we're deprived, and it's someone else's fault.

Accountant222 · 15/01/2019 20:41

If I was Teresa I'd get my coat and walk away, I really don't see why she puts herself through it, get dimwit Dave to sort it, it was after all his idea.

jasjas1973 · 15/01/2019 20:41

@Justheretogiveaviewfrommyworld

Just to be clear, if i had my way, the 50 billion spent on HS2 or 20 billion on Cross rail would have been spent regenerating the former coal and industrial areas.

The 4 to 5 billion wasted on brexit could have put in a cross pennines railway and funded UC properly.
The 10 billion spent on cutting corporation tax/IHT for the wealthy could have been spent on a nationwide apprentice scheme or got rid of uni fees

there is not shortage of money in the UK, leaving the EU means gov has an even better excuse NOT to spend it in the regions.

SillySallySingsSongs · 15/01/2019 20:42

What we actually need is someone to address what the minority of Leave voters whoaren'tfuckwitted racist scum actually need - Universal Basic Income

I mean calling the majority of 17 million people racist scum is really going to win people round.

millyonth · 15/01/2019 20:42

Nobody with half a brain still wants Brexit, hard or otherwise. It's madness.
I do.

ChardonnaysPrettySister · 15/01/2019 20:42

May is the worst PM in living memory but for the Tories it doesn’t matter, party before country. Ghost You always remind me of makeourfuture

Oh fuck. A GE will see the return of Makeourfuture, to top it all off.

bigdayinpolitics · 15/01/2019 20:43

Totally agree with that jasjas re expenditure

Justanotherlurker · 15/01/2019 20:43

What we actually need is someone to address what the minority of Leave voters who aren't fuckwitted racist scum actually need - Universal Basic Income, investment in infrastructure etc - and to tell the fuckwitted racist scum to shut up and fuck off.

You must be a neoliberal fuckwit then with that type of unicorn shit you're spouting. I bet you rail against neolibarlism and use GDP statistics to stay in the EU.

The racist scum are heavily concentrated in labour strongholds when you look at conversion to BNP, UKIP and Leave areas.

Such progressiveness, you are why politics has turned to low tier shit tribalism.

DangermousesSidekick · 15/01/2019 20:44

XingMing, and how will that increase the supply of jobs with decent wages, in and of itself, so that everyone who does the work and achieves educationally can have one? Not to mention the real cost of education, and the likelihood of people of poorer background needing to work for a living rather than stay on in education. Do you also realise what you are asking of people who have been disadvantaged for centuries, in a system where birth matters?

Ylvamoon · 15/01/2019 20:44

You can discuss TM and JC as much as you like... The most worry is that a) we are running out of time b) that the EU probably won't budge on the deal. (Its 27 v 1 country)

Maelstrop · 15/01/2019 20:45

I'm not gonna panic buy petrol. I'm just gonna buy petrol before the panic buyers buy it all

Thank God I filled up this morning! 😆

JC is about as ready as me to be PM. Fucking clueless!

Justheretogiveaviewfrommyworld · 15/01/2019 20:45

Xing, you need a forward looking Council to support that and I agree with you, wallowers won't vote for that. However, that doesn't help people like me, who can't afford to move elsewhere to either get away from the attitude nor could I move when my boys were small, to get them a better education than I had.

I have never wanted a no deal. All I hope was that before deciding to trigger Art. 50 they would ask why leavers voted as they did and have a plan to address this, be it in or out of the EU.

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