Reasons to remain and reasons to leave

[MyNameIsArthur]

I am hoping this thread can be constructive, respectful and insult free on both sides and to be informative.

I would like to hear everyone's views on why they think it important to remain or leave. I want to hear what the positives and negatives are for remain or leave, in the short, medium and long term in your opinion.

Also, if leave will definitely happen, then what do you think would be the best deal we should try for? What future relationship would you like with the EU?

If @TonyTodger thinks unsupported rehashes of Faridge/Rees Mogg soundbites is the way to convince the unconvinced then @TonyTodger is very foolish.

Yaralie- here’s some ideas to explain how the EU and U.K. 'gravy-trains' compare.

•	How about explaining  that any organisation has some well paid executives. E.g the salaries and expenses in the U.K. of the entirely new DexEU department and the £900 million overall civil service etc expenses explained below.
•	For an administrative staff covering institutions serving over 500m people it’s a shoestring operation, especially when we compare it to the U.K. civil service. For example, to the 33,477 people employed by <a class="break-all" href="http://www.birmingham.gov.uk/cs/Satellite?blobcol=urldata&blobheader=application%2Fpdf&blobheadername1=Content-Disposition&blobkey=id&blobtable=MungoBlobs&blobwhere=1223599118429&ssbinary=true&blobheadervalue1=attachment%3B+filename%3D218862Budget_for_Birmingham_2016-17.pdf" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Birmingham City Council</a>l_ alone.
•	Point out that our EU contribution was less than 1% of U.K. GDP anyway. 

• Explain in return we had unfettered access to a market with an annual GDP of $ 18 trillion.
• Point out that the gravy train of Brexit created or increased six government departments. Those most affected by preparations for leaving the EU will cost £400 million in the 2017/18 financial year. Then the cost jumps to at least £900 million in 2018/19.

(That is just the admin costs not the fall in the economy which is already £40bn and counting according to the Governor of the Bank of England.)

http://theconversation.com/how-many-people-work-for-the-eu-59702

https://www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/news/latest/new-report-reveals-cost-brexit

Sorry that's a bit garbled but all the figures relate to how much we are spending not the EU.

Thank you @falcon5
TBH phrased like that and without extra checking, those sound almost reasonable reasons.
I do not blame you for disengaging from the whole lot
but sadly the fact that so many have is leaving us in a worse place