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Boris outmaneovered. Et tu Gove & Corbyn? The Westministenders Hunger Games Continues

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RedToothBrush · 01/07/2016 12:08

Following the Machiavellian Govian shambles? Utterly gobsmacked at the Labour clusterfuck?

Who will strike next?

Who will the shadowy hand of Osborne back?
Can Gove be launched back into space and back to the planet he came from?
Can May save the country from almost certain doom?
Will Leadsom patronise us all to death (whilst silently stabbing people in the back with a sweet smile)?
Can Johnson make a decision he can stick to, and can we persuade him to give up being a politician?
Will Steven Crabb get rid of that god awful beard?

Will Corbyn shoot himself in the other foot?
Will Angela Eagle get a spine and just stand?
Who the fuck is Owen Smith?
Will the Blairites be foiled and damned?
Are momentum a bunch of thugs or a force for a better, for the people?

Will Farage disappear back under his rock?
Will people wake up to Arron Banks?
What will Dominic Cummings destroy next?

Have we seen a coup d'état?
How do we improve democracy and representation?

All these questions and more.
Sense of humour compulsory. No experience necessary though

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/eu_referendum_2016_/2670552-Has-Boris-been-outmanoeuvred?pg=1 Previous thread 1

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howabout · 01/07/2016 15:05

Love that EatShit Grin

howabout · 01/07/2016 15:08

Nope I reckon Nige is happy to put his feet up and write the odd newspaper column. Might even take up a regular HIGNFY guestspot. He is going to have to supplement his EU pension properly somehow.

SpringingIntoAction · 01/07/2016 15:11

Johnson being quizzed on the run today, given hard time....

Disturbing that we now live in a country where people think it's OK to abuse other people in the street for holding political views that disagree with their own.

MitzyLeFrouf · 01/07/2016 15:13

Was he being 'abused', or was he being asked some pertinent questions?

Chalalala · 01/07/2016 15:15

Oh hi Springing.

So who's your favoured candidate for the Tory leadership?

EatsShitAndLeaves · 01/07/2016 15:17

Anyway sod Game of Thrones.

I want to know want to know who is our:

  1. Katniss
  2. PETA
  3. Gale
  4. President Snow
  5. President Coin
  6. Any other HG character you choose to propose

Answers on a postcard please

TheBathroomSink · 01/07/2016 15:18

Whiny little shit James Delingpole reckons Gove doing all this because he's still cross about being moved out of Education before the 2015 GE

" With hindsight, it may well be that sacking Michael Gove from his post as Education Secretary was the worst tactical error of Cameron’s career. Gove professed not to resent it, but of course it stung after all the thankless work he’d done taking on the teachers unions and restoring rigour and quality to Britain’s failing education system. Perhaps this was the moment when he finally felt liberated from the bonds of total loyalty he had hitherto owed the Prime Minister; and, consequently, the one that set in motion Gove’s decision this year to campaign for Britain to leave the EU."

InShockReally · 01/07/2016 15:21

I agree Springing.

What is the world coming to when people dare to question politicians on the mess they've created - and in the street of all places! The street!

I have spilled my tea at the UnBritishness of it all.

frumpet · 01/07/2016 15:21

DH's French co-workers wondered if the result would have been remain if Wales vote was discounted ? If it would have been remain , then simply kick Wales out of the union , simple ! As I say this was a French perspective and a (I hope ) joke Grin

RedToothBrush · 01/07/2016 15:22

Labour’s shadow chancellor John McDonnell has urged anyone planning a leadership challenge to Jeremy Corbyn to “bring that forward” and let party members decide the “future direction” of the party.

I think this is the Labour Party equivalent of
'Come and have a go if you think you're hard enough'

Banks backing Leadsom might mean he's after Nige being on the exit team? That'd give him limitless publicity and the opportunity to piss off people on a painfully regular basis.

Yeah he knows he hasn't a hope in hell in getting Gove the PM job, but wants him to get a good office for Brexit to stir it up. He knows Gove will ONLY get a shot at that with Leadsom.

I hope the Tory MPs are smart enough (politically savvy) to realise that... Oh wait. Its the Conservative Party. We have hope here.

I wonder. Is Gove managing to do that trick of uniting the Scottish, by uniting the Tories together to do everything to screw him?

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Chalalala · 01/07/2016 15:23

frumpet in my experience the French recommendation joke would rather be to kick England out of the Union... much neater Wink

MitzyLeFrouf · 01/07/2016 15:26

'I have spilled my tea at the UnBritishness of it all.'

This past week has been one step away from resembling one of those dust ups you see in the Ukrainian parliament. Most unBritish indeed!

Boris outmaneovered. Et tu Gove & Corbyn? The Westministenders Hunger Games Continues
glitterbomb80 · 01/07/2016 15:27

Ah, you guys are great. Phenomenal wit and knowledge on display - the internet at it's finest and so much more fun than the Guardian's tedious liveblog.

Wish I could contribute more but my selfish baby keeps demanding my attention, no one told we're living in Interesting Times. Or a live action episode of The Thick of It.

TheBathroomSink · 01/07/2016 15:29

Frumpet - my very basic maths would make it 51.85% Leave v 48.15% Remain for everywhere except Wales

HalleLouja · 01/07/2016 15:32

Farage is enjoying his redundancy pay off. I do actually know a friend of his, who seems apart from that fact being a nice person.

EatsShitAndLeaves · 01/07/2016 15:34

I wonder when we will next hear from Calamity Corbyn?

I think his pals have stashed him in a box somewhere and he's crying out "I'm a socialist - get me out of here!".

ObiWanCannelloni · 01/07/2016 15:35

Johnson being questioned on the street? I thought questioners pretty restrained. He had option to ignore and they didn't block his path.
Might give him an ounce of empathy towards people on receiving end of racist abuse now in the streets.
Since the vote he's written a column, declined to appear in parliament or interviews and given two speeches without taking questions.
I'd say it's about time he got asked to answer questions ....

howabout · 01/07/2016 15:38

HG analysis from DD1 with Brexiteers being District 13. Gove is Primrose, Boris is Katnis and Mum is PETA. Guess that may make TM Coin and Farage as Gale. Osborne won't join in if we don't let him be Snow.

EatsShitAndLeaves · 01/07/2016 15:41

Osborne won't join in if we don't let him be Snow.

Grin
SugarPlumTree · 01/07/2016 15:43

I think when someone said they would write on parchment with their own blood that they do not wish to be and are not qualified to be Prime Minster, then it isn't entirely unexpected people might question their great big massive U turn just a tad to be fair.

SugarPlumTree · 01/07/2016 15:47

Farage is down the pub having a well deserved pint after his hard work berating Brussels, reading about his penniless German Immigrant GG Grandfather that the Mail kindly researched for him to avoid him paying Ancestry.com worldwide subscription now he is unemployed.

InShockReally · 01/07/2016 15:48

... does that mean the Mail are turning on Farage?

RedToothBrush · 01/07/2016 15:50

The British Medical Association has warned Michael Gove against using his pledge of £100m a week more for the NHS as “a false bribe to attract voters” and warned that the £5.2bn a year involved is small beer compared to the service’s projected £22bn deficit by 2020.

Dr Mark Porter, the chair of council (leader) of the BMA, which represents 170,000 of Britain’s 250,000 doctors, said:

The NHS must not be used as a political football, as we have seen so often. There is a clear public appetite for extra NHS funding, but this shouldn’t be used as a false bribe to attract voters.

We must also be clear that even £100m per week would fill less than a quarter of the funding shortfall created by the current government.

The next prime minister must outline a clear and achievable plan to support the NHS and deliver on any promises made on NHS funding.

In the wake of last week’s vote they must also provide clarity and reassurance for the many thousands of EU citizens working in the health service, without whom the NHS could not survive.

The Gove Manifesto is popular with the NHS then.

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frumpet · 01/07/2016 15:54

Ha ! Chalalala , poor DH didn't half get some stick whilst he was over there this week , I think the afternoon jaunt to calvados farm made it slightly more bearable for him though Wink

Have nothing of interest to add to these threads which are brilliant , just keep commenting to keep up and place mark .

DoinItFine · 01/07/2016 15:54

I'm unnerved by the seeming normality of today.

Maybe a week is the extent of our ability to panic?

Markets seem calmer.

Austerity is finally over.

We are unburdened by government or opposition.

Yesterday has provided lots of material for jokes and memes.

Is this the danger zone? Complacency?