If you voted leave, do you realise how much you've been lied to yet...

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....and how angry are you?

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Ah coma, are you going to specify what you voted to leave?

Although face-sitting sounds much more plausible!

I was being a bit flippant but there was a mass face-sitting sitting protest earlier in year over gov wanting to make changes to pornography.

"'What we also need is for remain voters to stop being part of the problem (shouting and screaming, hurling abuse, trying to reverse the decision) and to start becoming part of the solution.'"

Translation..............Remain voters should take responsibility for the Leave voters choice.

girlinacoma have we got our triple A rating back too??? Have we???

Helena Dove

I don't mean that at all, honestly

What I mean are the extreme attacks I am seeing on my FB feed just now from a number of remainers using utterly vile and offensive language aimed at everyone who voted leave.

I started a thread here earlier with a link to an item that BBC news have run today showing that the pressure on sterling has eased a little.

It's only a slight ray of hope, just the beginning but because it's not dire, depressing news with shocking headlines, no-one is interested in it.

LumpySpacedPrincess

Silly-billy

the pressure on sterling has eased a little

You need to go and look at a graph.

It's very good news that sterling has stabilised today, because already the decline has exceeded what most investment professionals and economists expected in the immediate wake of a brexit. There is still potential for it to fall further, and if some sort of plan (as opposed to boriswaffle) doesn't emerge soon, then it will fall.

Someone said upthread that we'd only been in the EU for 40 years and that Britain had been fine before then and could be again (or words to that effect).

As a post war baby who grew up in the 50s and 60s I can tell you that Britain was not fine then. We were absolutely flat broke after WW2 ended and Marshall Aid was cut off. That we managed to set up the NHS, undertake a massive programme of house building and expand educational provision with the opening of new universities seem s like a minor miracle to me now; but then, we had consensus governments for much of the time. We also still had a great deal of industry which has now gone; shipbuilding, steel, car making, coal mining, textiles etc.

As for before WW2, we had a bloody great empire which supplied us with raw materials at minmal cost and which we forced to buy our manufactured goods. We were also supplied at very advantageous rates with food from Commonwealth (i.e former colony) countries. (I well remember the angst over entry to the EEC meaning New Zealand lost one of its prime markets for meat and dairy products.) It's all gone now.

So I worry about what we are able to offer to the world markets. Perhaps some of the Leavers could reassure me.

If we do want to continue trading with the EU via the EEA our goods will still have to conforn to EU regulations and we will still have to accept Free Movement. Only now we won't have any say at all in the framing of those regulations; or any other EU legislation which may affect us. It doesn't seem like a very smart choice to me.

Gloria Gaynor posted about Professor Dougan's video earlier. I was horrified to read this today: www.legalcheek.com/2016/06/university-of-liverpool-eu-law-lecturers-incredible-out-of-office-email-response-to-bremain-haters/
It seems that some people thought they were voting for England to leave the UK. Completely unaware, I assume, that Ireland was virtually ruled by England for hundreds of years and became part of the UK 200 years ago.

Minority this lot might be but undoubtedly encouraged by the dreadful Leave campaign.

maizie Brilliantly said!

And saddened, but not surprised, by the racist abuse to Prof Dougan. I remember before the referendum some MNers straight up accusing him of corruption too.