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Brexit

If you voted leave, do you realise how much you've been lied to yet...

209 replies

JapanNextYear · 28/06/2016 07:28

....and how angry are you?

indy100.independent.co.uk/article/one-thing-we-learnt-from-boris-johnsons-column-today-and-8-things-we-didnt--WJf7NUCpCNZ

OP posts:
Lweji · 28/06/2016 13:17

To be honest I am rather bored with it all now.

You don't have to post or read threads. :)

And you really think what happens to the UK or the EU is boring?
Is that why you voted Leave?

GloriaGaynor · 28/06/2016 13:20

To be honest I am rather bored with it all now

So you voted to cause havoc and then got bored of the result?

TheElementsSong · 28/06/2016 13:29

They're attention-seeking across several threads. Probably just a WUM.

Mistigri · 28/06/2016 13:32

'Boris' proposal would be the perfect result as far as I'm concerned

Boris's proposal was bullshit anyway because the EU will never agree to it, but in any case, several political journalists on Twitter are now saying he has been sat on by the Tory right wing and is now saying no free movement (which means no single market access).

starry0ne · 28/06/2016 13:39

I was undecided till the last minute...Although I voted in the leavers were lied to but so was the stay.. I don't think how anyone can condemn the leavers for listening to lies when both sides were lying.. I also think regardless of this vote..The worst thing that is coming out of the election is the venom , racism and divisiveness...

MotherOfBleach · 28/06/2016 13:47

It wasn't an issue of "what laws pissed you off". It was the process

Okay, so you don't know any EU law that has actually harmed the UK, or pissed you off personally, but you voted out because in theory they could pass laws that piss you off or harm the UK? Is that what you're saying?

TheNaze73 · 28/06/2016 13:50

OP, let it go. We lost. Constantly gets to me to but, articles won't change the fact that less than 36% of the people registered to vote, agree with us.

TWOBANANAS · 28/06/2016 13:54

No, perfectly happy with my choice too. Obviously not one lie was told on the remain side. Not one.

NuckyT · 28/06/2016 14:05

'Boris' proposal would be the perfect result as far as I'm concerned

That proposal seems to involve squatting in the EU for as long as possible. If I was the EU I'd be chucking Britain out as soon as possible, and warning us not to let the door hit us on the arse on the way out.

janieblaye · 28/06/2016 14:08

Project fear = simple, undeniable economics and facts that were provided to you, but that people did not want to listen to

powershowerforanhour · 28/06/2016 14:10

"To be honest I am rather bored with it all now"

Boris, is that you??

Lweji · 28/06/2016 14:14

Boris, is that you??

Grin
homebythesea · 28/06/2016 14:14

motherofbleach exactly! Because if I was pissed off I could do something about it!!

Corcory · 28/06/2016 14:24

I'm perfectly happy with the way I voted. We were always going to have a down turn when there is uncertainty. That is not news and certainly doesn't prove the remains' case. We are not going to be having an emergency budget, pensioners are not having their pensions cut and world war 3 hasn't started!

girlinacoma · 28/06/2016 14:31

Fortunately, I didn't pay much heed to either side of the Referendum as I trotted off and carried out my own research instead.

My heart was telling me to vote leave and so I made extra effort to look at the Remain arguments too. I knew that a vote to leave would cause utter turmoil initially but for me it was a vote for the longer term stability of the economy.

Over the past few weeks I have had the opportunity to get together with friends and family and the Referendum was discussed at length.

Unsurprisingly, there was a pretty even split between remain and leave and I would say that opinions seemed to follow the general pattern of older generations - leave, younger - remain (although not completely)

Not at any point did anyone shout or try to put down other's views (unusual for my family!) as I think that everyone recognised that there were arguments for and against each side (broadly speaking). During one particular get together at a relatives house, there must have been over 40 adults attending, most of whom were friends of theirs and not people I knew personally but everyone wanted to talk about the referendum and it was great to be able to do so with strangers.

This experience however lulled me into a false sense of security as I assumed that the majority of the voting public would be approaching the issue in the same way.

A couple of my cousins for example voted for UKIP and even they didn't really buy Farage's arguments for Brexit.

Anyway, in answer to your question OP - I didn't really feel I could trust either side but I tried my absolute best to try and mitigate that by doing my own research and talking to as broader range of people as possible.

Do I regret my vote to leave? No

Am I concerned about the fallout? Of course I bloody am!

If I could vote again, would I vote differently? No.

What we need now is for someone to man the fuck up and start leading this country. What we also need is for remain voters to stop being part of the problem (shouting and screaming, hurling abuse, trying to reverse the decision) and to start becoming part of the solution.

If the rest of the world is laughing at us right now, it's not because of the results of the vote. It's because the whole country has descended into utter fucking hysterical chaos.

Helmetbymidnight · 28/06/2016 14:39

What we also need is for remain voters to stop being part of the problem

I didn't know there was a problem. I thought everything was fine?

to start becoming part of the solution.

How do you mean?

Puzzledandpissedoff · 28/06/2016 14:41

Superb post, girlinacoma Flowers

Helmetbymidnight · 28/06/2016 14:46

What does it mean. Oh, you mean we all help 'take back control' perhaps?

SanityClause · 28/06/2016 14:52

exactly! Because if I was pissed off I could do something about it

Like what?

Vote someone else in? I live in a Tory safe seat. My vote never counts.

Protest on social media? Sign a petition? Well it's not doing Remain voters in this glorious democracy much good, is it?

CarpetBagger · 28/06/2016 14:54

I don't think fascism and xenophobia is on the rise in the UK.

I think people who feel that way are emboldened by the brexit result to be open about it.

What I think however is that a loose vote for Leave would be resulting in anger, riots and physical violence.

SanityClause · 28/06/2016 14:56

If the rest of the world is laughing at us right now, it's not because of the results of the vote.

Really? Posts on my facebook feed from those abroad say things like; Britain's school report - does not play nicely with others.

CarpetBagger · 28/06/2016 14:57

Great post Girl in a coma.
Mother your posts sound odd.

GloriaGaynor · 28/06/2016 14:57

If the rest of the world is laughing at us right now, it's not because of the results of the vote

Oh yes it is. It's precisely because of the results of the vote. It's because we've let a complex, momentous decision be made by people who voted how their 'heart' told them to, without the remotest idea of the political, economic, social consequences.

For everyone outside the UK it's both funny and sad.

NewLife4Me · 28/06/2016 14:58

What, politicians lie?
That is so terrible, why have we never been told before?
I wonder if remain voters believe they have voted before, perhaps in GE and not been lied to.
Maybe some remainers should be careful who they call thick and stupid Grin
I didn't vote, because I'm too lazy apparently.

MitzyLeFrouf · 28/06/2016 14:58

'What we also need is for remain voters to stop being part of the problem (shouting and screaming, hurling abuse, trying to reverse the decision) and to start becoming part of the solution.'

More meaningless fluff.

How exactly do you propose that people who voted Remain become part of the solution? They do not want this situation and I doubt they care very much about your (charmingly English) worries about 'keep the noise down dear, the neighbours are looking'.

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